Excellent! I married an outstanding women athlete who competed in HS and College volleyball. She was active as Title IX came into existence-she had to fight for the same support that the men's teams were given. Our daughter (and son) both participated in HS and college athletics. My family understands that boys/men have a physical advantage over girls/women--it is common sense!
It is incomprehensible to my family that boys (men) are allowed to compete against (girls/women).
We support all girls and women in all sports to this day!
Julie! I can't hear your inspiring story too many times: on the Courthouse steps and here again in print. Thank you. Today is the 52nd anniversary of the signing into law, the most important Civil Rights legislation for women since Suffrage 100 years ago. President Nixon proudly signed Title IX that historic day, June 23, 1972. From the earliest days of his administration, he positioned women in key places. He got it, and we bless him for that. Today, Title IX is a footnote. Most young people go "Hunh?" when asked about it. Today's article is the only mention of Title IX in any of the South County news outlets. Not Indy, Noozhawk, Montecito Journal. Everybody else is celebrated in June: Slave Emancipation 4 days ago (a righteous moment in history) and LGB gets a full month. But we girls? The other half of the population that existed for most of recorded history with few rights (and many parts of the world, continuing today)? Nothing. Thank you Jim and James for publishing this important remembrance. Thank you, Julie. Please consider attending tomorrow night's Santa Barbara School Board meeting: 6:00 PM. Take 3 minutes of Public Comment time to speak about precious Title IX. Speak to your own experience. Speak.
We are the same age. I identify 100%. Women loved sports yet hit a brick wall in opportunities to compete. My childhood area of the country was remnants of Cherokee heritage. The gals were curious how a matriarchal society evolved into male dominance over the years. History unravels a mystery, doesn’t it? Gratitude is due to the GOP’s 100% effort in 1920 to fight for and get women’s right to vote and own property. This was a game changer, literally. Sadly, the democrat party was 100% against both. There’s that. Today, ONE HUNDRED YEARS LATER, the GOP again leads the legislative battle for women’s equal place in sports. 🤷♀️
Nice going, Cate. Any chance I get (and I get a lot of them), I'll flip the historical switch (as you so deftly have) to illustrate just how "progressive" the Democrats are... not. "Progress" for most Democrats up until at least the 1970s, was the continuing ability of white men to keep black and brown men (and women) from competing with them fairly in any endeavour, whether in sports, business, and/or socially. It's been (and still is) the Republican Party that's championed racial equality, though because of the Democrat stranglehold on public education, most children never learn that. Keep the faith. We're winning. Finally.
I sure wish the Democratic Party would see the light on this topic. Boys and men competing against girls and women is wrong and should not be allowed. Our tax dollars are funding this so I think there should be a vote taken that would be binding on our elected officials Because I don’t think anywhere near a majority of people think this is the right thing to do. I’m sure the powers that be would try their hardest to squash such a ballot measure, but it sure seems like the right thing to do to me.
The issue is Democrats think a dress makes you a woman. They ignore the Bible, they ignore Science, XX or XY, and pull sh#t out of their tush.
You cannot reason with these radicals. Like a self entitled child who has been allowed to do whatever they want without consequences the radicals are screaming and making up all new rules throwing away all facts and common sense.
But this is what Democrat voters wanted.
This is what the non voting people voted for.
Apparently the majority like no facts, no rules, no science, no laws.
So the adults are held captive to the ignorant self entitled children.
You make a great point Brian, except that we have already voted on the major premise "male and female are equal"- We have to undue the false ground of the problem- to try to solve this with courts and votes is merely rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Terrific posting, Juliet. But I don't feel as enthusiastic about how teens are playing sports as you do. It's not just the trans stuff that endangers teen female athletes. It's the increasing demand for higher and higher performance levels in teen athletes. A young friend of mine is a coach who also does body therapy work for adults - her I would trust coaching teen girls because she knows sports medicine. But how many coaches are like that? I know several young women who were school athletes and they all had head injuries that I don't think are great later in life. Of course, head injuries affect boys too. My late brother played soccer in high school and had his head bashed a number of times. To be fair, he also rode a motorcycle and crashed several times. He developed Early Onset Parkinson's in his late thirties and he died from it at 60. It may be that those injuries did not bring on his Parkinson's but why take the chance? It's definitely empowering for women to compete athletically as a kids. But how many of these young women are going to need joint replacements by the time they're 40?
This is really interesting- my wife too is an outstanding female athlete, most valuable swimmer at her high school 4 years in a row- that said, I could outswim her with one arm tied behind my back always- then and now.
When it comes to male vs. female, we have slid into a morass of confusion that blinds most of us- The ladies, and most of the gents, miss the contradiction and the joke is on us all.
This is a woman’s world at the moment. The public schools and Universities have become beta, delta and zeta male and alpha female making factories based on the false premise that men and women are equal. (only the women are more equal)
Setting aside the grievance politics with materialism and communism fueling the psychopathic demands for equality of outcome, it is super ironic to notice how the ladies have gotten exactly, and I mean exactly what they asked for. It simply follows logically that if men and women are equal then what is the problem with men competing against women in sports?
The contradiction comes from the feminists who believe they have a right to “equality” with men but then complain about the “equality” with men. The feminists deserve this fiasco.
Those of us who are normal, and I mean normal in the true meaning of that word, not the abused modern meaning, see so clearly what an abomination it is to have men in women’s sports. It is so tortured, twisted, deformed, sad, pathetic and even gross to take the whole scene in.
So here is the news flash- men and women aren’t equal, never were, never will be. True men and true women are complementary.
Women’s sports are truly wonderful and important, but not nearly as exciting, engaging, riveting, or profit-inducing as men’s sports, they never will be until the Transhumanist agenda is fully implemented and we are all forced to lie about that more fully than we already have to.
In reality, there is no such being and a male who can become a female or vice versa. It doesn’t exist no matter how many drugs, surgeries, or therapists you commit to.
Ladies, you can’t complain about the men in your locker rooms until you abandon the false premise of equality.
In a twisted irony the ladies do deserve this fiasco, but it will take real men to put an end to it. Men of virtue who know the difference between male and female and put a stop to the lunacy of even a discussion of having males compete against females.
Ladies are going to have to abandon the quest to imitate males and recognize that participation in sports is never going to be about their exterior glory like it can be for males, but about the interior cultivation of the virtues of discipline that build character.
Steven, let's get a few things straight. Traditional feminists (like myself) oppose unequivacably males in female spaces. They are a threat to female safety and autonomy. Any male who exposes himself to me is a sexual predator. Imagine that intact male in a YMCA locker room with young girls and women. Happening now, here in Santa Barbara. Imagine incarcerated women locked inside a female prison cell with an intact male -- locked inside and humiliated. Happening now thanks to the California state legislature. "Rape and Pillage" is a practice that goes back to ancient times and continues today in war zones. As a man, you are expected to stand up for women, including mothers, wives, daughters. Defend our right to be safe. To compete as females among females. To share a piece of your bountiful pie.
Celeste, no one opposes males in females spaces more than I do, so it would be a straw man to suggest otherwise, I have that much straighter than you do- I am a dad of daughters and I will defend them and my wife to the hilt in the face of a predator as you describe, it is disgusting the perversion it takes for that sick bastard at the YMCA- it is ironic that I am standing up for women more than anyone on this site- or probably in California- I defend your right to be safe to the death and I would personally protect you and any other woman from this sickness. Our only point of disagreement will be about this bountiful pie you mention-
Fair enough. I'd welcome men like you, Steve, in my foxhole any day. It's still a challenging world for girls and women. Was getting better until the ideologues determined it okay to pervert Title IX and undermine 5 decades of progress in female access to education, including athletics.
Steven, I’m a woman, a Don, Class of ‘72 and I never signed on to this Feminist bs. I hate the whole “Chickification” of our present American Society. I’ll take an Alpha male any day. Sadly some of us have lost our way.
Delores, a rare soul in this part of the country, I am glad to hear of it. The ironic reality is that this article ought to have been entitled "Being a Boy in a Girls World" for that is much more accurately why we have so many deluded souls promoting and having boys participate in girls sports, an absolute shame and tragedy, where have all the Alpha Males Gone? It is definitely a "girls world."
What feminists, girls and women want isn’t “equality” to compete against men, it’s to compete against each other. They weren’t even allowed that crumb of respect for decades.
You know that!
The only sport where men and women compete on equal terms is with equestrian sports, which are demanding and beautiful endeavors.
Feminism is in direct OPPOSITION to men competing against women otherwise- it’s for the chance for women to engage in sports in and of themselves so that they can reach their potential within their own genre.
Not quite McGrune! But your misapprehension is very common. You are commenting on the appearances of things and the common sense desires of disinterested parties, not on the nature of feminism. What you clearly miss are the unseen roots of undergirding principles. It would appear in the age that feminism and transgenderism are two distinct ideologies but at their deepest roots they share first principles. A rotten fruit you might see from both ideologies is the grievance politics clearly bemoaned in this article both stemming from the neo-marxist material dialectic. How do you explain that many in the world support men in women's sports? Nearly all universities, the olympics and many other entities who recognize the disordered coherence that comes from false principles but unfortunately for you and the feminists, these principles are shared with all ideologies that come from identity politics.
The nature of feminism is in staunch opposition to transhumanism, which the trans gender ideology and movement is all about. The trans movement is the ultimate deconstruction and obliteration of feminism, that’s why so many feminists are speaking out against it. The deconstruction of anything female, to be usurped by males pretending to be females or actually being allowed to identify as female is how Title IV is destroyed. The dignity of this nation and the power of it rests on things like girls being able to compete against girls, women against women, not to usurp or destroy boys or men. That’s not in their interests because it’s absurd. The trans movement targets feminism first.
The only exception for males and females competing against each other is with equestrian events. Now is the time for you to stand in defense of feminism, women and girls and advocate for the ban of men and boys encroaching into their hard won gains.
McGrune, we don't speak the same language and your lack of understanding on the principles that undergird both ideologies makes what you are saying only half true at best. Whether you like it or not, one of the tenets of feminism is that men and women are equal and gender is a social construct. Although there may be differences in the trans and feminist movements, they share a core principle of rejecting objective gender and sex roles. I stand against feminists and I stand for the true feminine genius that feminists give up is their false struggle for a false equality. I protect real women, not women pretending to be men. Feminism degrades women and lowers them to the status of men while at the same time pretending like women are better than men at being men, and the trans ideology has a similar set of delusions.
I suppose it is too complicated topic to explain here, but I will say McGrune, we do have some common ground on a few things, this feminist and trans ideology is not some of it. I wish I could help you more.
Traditional feminists abhor what is happening, the assault on the intent of Title iX, and obliteration (good word) of female identity. "Birthing persons" is not a joke term, it's actually insisted upon in some circles! Check out Women's Liberation Front (WoLF) under the stewardship of Santa Barbara local, Sharon Byrne. WoLF currently has legal suits out on behalf of female athletes harmed by Transgender; on behalf of female prisoners incarcerated with males "transitioning."
Not all types of feminism agree or propose that gender is a social construct. I’m glad to hear you protect women, that’s commendable! Some types of feminism support the true feminine genius that you refer to. It’s a broad topic.
McGrune, I agree with you: “The only sport where men and women compete on equal terms is with equestrian sports.” But I would put that in past tense. Feminism has ruined equestrian sports for women with their MeToo witch hunting of male trainers. I wrote about it in 2018 on my blog http://www.pollyfrost.com/blog/2018/5/29/jimmy-williams-the-recent-nyt-piece-about-his-alleged-child.html. The “references” listed below my posting are not mine - I'm working with Squarespace to get rid of it. My posting created a furor in the equestrian world, with men and women writing me that it was being passed around at shows by women who are fed up with what feminism has done to equestrian competition.
I don’t know what transpired with the accusations, people can call themselves anything they want. Sometimes people call themselves or id themselves as such and such because of confusion or attempts to muddy the original terms, much like what we’ve seen vis a vis the woke stuff vs original civil rights movements.
Steven, I’m a woman, a Don, Class of ‘72 and I never signed on to this Feminist bs. I hate the whole “Chickification” of our present American Society. I’ll take an Alpha male any day. Sadly some of us have lost our way.
Wow, you almost made it there and your analysis started out strong but then the point flew right over your head and you began punching down against trans women. That was fascinating to watch! I’m sorry the real point continues to elude you at this advanced stage though. That has to be disappointing.
I have had long conversations with clients who have been coaches of many sports. ALL the men told me they no longer dare to coach girls. Universally they told me that kids nowadays know they can blackmail a coach by attesting to sexual impropriety, without evidence, and ruin the man's life.
They also say that while boys can be molded and learn discipline, girls tend to compete against each other instead of as a cohesive team. So there's that, another way they are not the same.
I have one client, an ex-pro football and rugby player with CTE, who teaches kids in the Central Valley to compete in shotput. It has been an Olympic sport since 1896, and colleges maintain teams. He chose it because so few students go for the scholarships available, and he says the kids in his area have attended such poor schools they cannot compete for college scholarships academically. Also they are white, so a sport scholarship or joining the military are their ways to get out of town.
These are not my experiences, they are what I have been told. In my life I have always stayed away from anything that required competition, and know nothing about sports. I'm like my Irish Wolfhounds, who do not fetch. The Irish say "If you threw it away, why would they want it?"
Simply put and pitch perfect. Competing in sports teaches women (and men) so many intrinsic values: true grit, discipline and determination, and sportsmanship. There is NO sportsmanship in cheating! Which is exactly what men in womens’ sports amounts to. Don’t agree? The Kentucky Derby has been run for 150 years. In all those years, how many times has a filly won? Three. That’s right, three. Males are just bigger, stronger and faster. The animal kingdom has many lessons to teach us, eh? Failing that, I identify as an NBA player, so put me on the team. Watch the “men” start losing $$$ and you’ll hear the wailing begin. 🙄
Excellent! I married an outstanding women athlete who competed in HS and College volleyball. She was active as Title IX came into existence-she had to fight for the same support that the men's teams were given. Our daughter (and son) both participated in HS and college athletics. My family understands that boys/men have a physical advantage over girls/women--it is common sense!
It is incomprehensible to my family that boys (men) are allowed to compete against (girls/women).
We support all girls and women in all sports to this day!
Julie! I can't hear your inspiring story too many times: on the Courthouse steps and here again in print. Thank you. Today is the 52nd anniversary of the signing into law, the most important Civil Rights legislation for women since Suffrage 100 years ago. President Nixon proudly signed Title IX that historic day, June 23, 1972. From the earliest days of his administration, he positioned women in key places. He got it, and we bless him for that. Today, Title IX is a footnote. Most young people go "Hunh?" when asked about it. Today's article is the only mention of Title IX in any of the South County news outlets. Not Indy, Noozhawk, Montecito Journal. Everybody else is celebrated in June: Slave Emancipation 4 days ago (a righteous moment in history) and LGB gets a full month. But we girls? The other half of the population that existed for most of recorded history with few rights (and many parts of the world, continuing today)? Nothing. Thank you Jim and James for publishing this important remembrance. Thank you, Julie. Please consider attending tomorrow night's Santa Barbara School Board meeting: 6:00 PM. Take 3 minutes of Public Comment time to speak about precious Title IX. Speak to your own experience. Speak.
We are the same age. I identify 100%. Women loved sports yet hit a brick wall in opportunities to compete. My childhood area of the country was remnants of Cherokee heritage. The gals were curious how a matriarchal society evolved into male dominance over the years. History unravels a mystery, doesn’t it? Gratitude is due to the GOP’s 100% effort in 1920 to fight for and get women’s right to vote and own property. This was a game changer, literally. Sadly, the democrat party was 100% against both. There’s that. Today, ONE HUNDRED YEARS LATER, the GOP again leads the legislative battle for women’s equal place in sports. 🤷♀️
Nice going, Cate. Any chance I get (and I get a lot of them), I'll flip the historical switch (as you so deftly have) to illustrate just how "progressive" the Democrats are... not. "Progress" for most Democrats up until at least the 1970s, was the continuing ability of white men to keep black and brown men (and women) from competing with them fairly in any endeavour, whether in sports, business, and/or socially. It's been (and still is) the Republican Party that's championed racial equality, though because of the Democrat stranglehold on public education, most children never learn that. Keep the faith. We're winning. Finally.
I sure wish the Democratic Party would see the light on this topic. Boys and men competing against girls and women is wrong and should not be allowed. Our tax dollars are funding this so I think there should be a vote taken that would be binding on our elected officials Because I don’t think anywhere near a majority of people think this is the right thing to do. I’m sure the powers that be would try their hardest to squash such a ballot measure, but it sure seems like the right thing to do to me.
The issue is Democrats think a dress makes you a woman. They ignore the Bible, they ignore Science, XX or XY, and pull sh#t out of their tush.
You cannot reason with these radicals. Like a self entitled child who has been allowed to do whatever they want without consequences the radicals are screaming and making up all new rules throwing away all facts and common sense.
But this is what Democrat voters wanted.
This is what the non voting people voted for.
Apparently the majority like no facts, no rules, no science, no laws.
So the adults are held captive to the ignorant self entitled children.
You make a great point Brian, except that we have already voted on the major premise "male and female are equal"- We have to undue the false ground of the problem- to try to solve this with courts and votes is merely rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Terrific posting, Juliet. But I don't feel as enthusiastic about how teens are playing sports as you do. It's not just the trans stuff that endangers teen female athletes. It's the increasing demand for higher and higher performance levels in teen athletes. A young friend of mine is a coach who also does body therapy work for adults - her I would trust coaching teen girls because she knows sports medicine. But how many coaches are like that? I know several young women who were school athletes and they all had head injuries that I don't think are great later in life. Of course, head injuries affect boys too. My late brother played soccer in high school and had his head bashed a number of times. To be fair, he also rode a motorcycle and crashed several times. He developed Early Onset Parkinson's in his late thirties and he died from it at 60. It may be that those injuries did not bring on his Parkinson's but why take the chance? It's definitely empowering for women to compete athletically as a kids. But how many of these young women are going to need joint replacements by the time they're 40?
This is really interesting- my wife too is an outstanding female athlete, most valuable swimmer at her high school 4 years in a row- that said, I could outswim her with one arm tied behind my back always- then and now.
When it comes to male vs. female, we have slid into a morass of confusion that blinds most of us- The ladies, and most of the gents, miss the contradiction and the joke is on us all.
This is a woman’s world at the moment. The public schools and Universities have become beta, delta and zeta male and alpha female making factories based on the false premise that men and women are equal. (only the women are more equal)
Setting aside the grievance politics with materialism and communism fueling the psychopathic demands for equality of outcome, it is super ironic to notice how the ladies have gotten exactly, and I mean exactly what they asked for. It simply follows logically that if men and women are equal then what is the problem with men competing against women in sports?
The contradiction comes from the feminists who believe they have a right to “equality” with men but then complain about the “equality” with men. The feminists deserve this fiasco.
Those of us who are normal, and I mean normal in the true meaning of that word, not the abused modern meaning, see so clearly what an abomination it is to have men in women’s sports. It is so tortured, twisted, deformed, sad, pathetic and even gross to take the whole scene in.
So here is the news flash- men and women aren’t equal, never were, never will be. True men and true women are complementary.
Women’s sports are truly wonderful and important, but not nearly as exciting, engaging, riveting, or profit-inducing as men’s sports, they never will be until the Transhumanist agenda is fully implemented and we are all forced to lie about that more fully than we already have to.
In reality, there is no such being and a male who can become a female or vice versa. It doesn’t exist no matter how many drugs, surgeries, or therapists you commit to.
Ladies, you can’t complain about the men in your locker rooms until you abandon the false premise of equality.
In a twisted irony the ladies do deserve this fiasco, but it will take real men to put an end to it. Men of virtue who know the difference between male and female and put a stop to the lunacy of even a discussion of having males compete against females.
Ladies are going to have to abandon the quest to imitate males and recognize that participation in sports is never going to be about their exterior glory like it can be for males, but about the interior cultivation of the virtues of discipline that build character.
We need to return to a man’s world.
Steven, let's get a few things straight. Traditional feminists (like myself) oppose unequivacably males in female spaces. They are a threat to female safety and autonomy. Any male who exposes himself to me is a sexual predator. Imagine that intact male in a YMCA locker room with young girls and women. Happening now, here in Santa Barbara. Imagine incarcerated women locked inside a female prison cell with an intact male -- locked inside and humiliated. Happening now thanks to the California state legislature. "Rape and Pillage" is a practice that goes back to ancient times and continues today in war zones. As a man, you are expected to stand up for women, including mothers, wives, daughters. Defend our right to be safe. To compete as females among females. To share a piece of your bountiful pie.
Celeste, no one opposes males in females spaces more than I do, so it would be a straw man to suggest otherwise, I have that much straighter than you do- I am a dad of daughters and I will defend them and my wife to the hilt in the face of a predator as you describe, it is disgusting the perversion it takes for that sick bastard at the YMCA- it is ironic that I am standing up for women more than anyone on this site- or probably in California- I defend your right to be safe to the death and I would personally protect you and any other woman from this sickness. Our only point of disagreement will be about this bountiful pie you mention-
Fair enough. I'd welcome men like you, Steve, in my foxhole any day. It's still a challenging world for girls and women. Was getting better until the ideologues determined it okay to pervert Title IX and undermine 5 decades of progress in female access to education, including athletics.
Well said.
Steven, I’m a woman, a Don, Class of ‘72 and I never signed on to this Feminist bs. I hate the whole “Chickification” of our present American Society. I’ll take an Alpha male any day. Sadly some of us have lost our way.
Delores, a rare soul in this part of the country, I am glad to hear of it. The ironic reality is that this article ought to have been entitled "Being a Boy in a Girls World" for that is much more accurately why we have so many deluded souls promoting and having boys participate in girls sports, an absolute shame and tragedy, where have all the Alpha Males Gone? It is definitely a "girls world."
What feminists, girls and women want isn’t “equality” to compete against men, it’s to compete against each other. They weren’t even allowed that crumb of respect for decades.
You know that!
The only sport where men and women compete on equal terms is with equestrian sports, which are demanding and beautiful endeavors.
Feminism is in direct OPPOSITION to men competing against women otherwise- it’s for the chance for women to engage in sports in and of themselves so that they can reach their potential within their own genre.
Not quite McGrune! But your misapprehension is very common. You are commenting on the appearances of things and the common sense desires of disinterested parties, not on the nature of feminism. What you clearly miss are the unseen roots of undergirding principles. It would appear in the age that feminism and transgenderism are two distinct ideologies but at their deepest roots they share first principles. A rotten fruit you might see from both ideologies is the grievance politics clearly bemoaned in this article both stemming from the neo-marxist material dialectic. How do you explain that many in the world support men in women's sports? Nearly all universities, the olympics and many other entities who recognize the disordered coherence that comes from false principles but unfortunately for you and the feminists, these principles are shared with all ideologies that come from identity politics.
The nature of feminism is in staunch opposition to transhumanism, which the trans gender ideology and movement is all about. The trans movement is the ultimate deconstruction and obliteration of feminism, that’s why so many feminists are speaking out against it. The deconstruction of anything female, to be usurped by males pretending to be females or actually being allowed to identify as female is how Title IV is destroyed. The dignity of this nation and the power of it rests on things like girls being able to compete against girls, women against women, not to usurp or destroy boys or men. That’s not in their interests because it’s absurd. The trans movement targets feminism first.
The only exception for males and females competing against each other is with equestrian events. Now is the time for you to stand in defense of feminism, women and girls and advocate for the ban of men and boys encroaching into their hard won gains.
McGrune, we don't speak the same language and your lack of understanding on the principles that undergird both ideologies makes what you are saying only half true at best. Whether you like it or not, one of the tenets of feminism is that men and women are equal and gender is a social construct. Although there may be differences in the trans and feminist movements, they share a core principle of rejecting objective gender and sex roles. I stand against feminists and I stand for the true feminine genius that feminists give up is their false struggle for a false equality. I protect real women, not women pretending to be men. Feminism degrades women and lowers them to the status of men while at the same time pretending like women are better than men at being men, and the trans ideology has a similar set of delusions.
I suppose it is too complicated topic to explain here, but I will say McGrune, we do have some common ground on a few things, this feminist and trans ideology is not some of it. I wish I could help you more.
I agree with you about feminism. Anyone who thinks gender is a social construct should visit a race horse stable in Lexington and watch the breeding.
Traditional feminists abhor what is happening, the assault on the intent of Title iX, and obliteration (good word) of female identity. "Birthing persons" is not a joke term, it's actually insisted upon in some circles! Check out Women's Liberation Front (WoLF) under the stewardship of Santa Barbara local, Sharon Byrne. WoLF currently has legal suits out on behalf of female athletes harmed by Transgender; on behalf of female prisoners incarcerated with males "transitioning."
Not all types of feminism agree or propose that gender is a social construct. I’m glad to hear you protect women, that’s commendable! Some types of feminism support the true feminine genius that you refer to. It’s a broad topic.
McGrune, I agree with you: “The only sport where men and women compete on equal terms is with equestrian sports.” But I would put that in past tense. Feminism has ruined equestrian sports for women with their MeToo witch hunting of male trainers. I wrote about it in 2018 on my blog http://www.pollyfrost.com/blog/2018/5/29/jimmy-williams-the-recent-nyt-piece-about-his-alleged-child.html. The “references” listed below my posting are not mine - I'm working with Squarespace to get rid of it. My posting created a furor in the equestrian world, with men and women writing me that it was being passed around at shows by women who are fed up with what feminism has done to equestrian competition.
I wouldn’t call that feminism though.
Interesting. What would you call it? Because those women call themselves feminists.
womensliberationfront.org
I don’t know what transpired with the accusations, people can call themselves anything they want. Sometimes people call themselves or id themselves as such and such because of confusion or attempts to muddy the original terms, much like what we’ve seen vis a vis the woke stuff vs original civil rights movements.
Steven, I’m a woman, a Don, Class of ‘72 and I never signed on to this Feminist bs. I hate the whole “Chickification” of our present American Society. I’ll take an Alpha male any day. Sadly some of us have lost our way.
Wow, you almost made it there and your analysis started out strong but then the point flew right over your head and you began punching down against trans women. That was fascinating to watch! I’m sorry the real point continues to elude you at this advanced stage though. That has to be disappointing.
I have had long conversations with clients who have been coaches of many sports. ALL the men told me they no longer dare to coach girls. Universally they told me that kids nowadays know they can blackmail a coach by attesting to sexual impropriety, without evidence, and ruin the man's life.
They also say that while boys can be molded and learn discipline, girls tend to compete against each other instead of as a cohesive team. So there's that, another way they are not the same.
I have one client, an ex-pro football and rugby player with CTE, who teaches kids in the Central Valley to compete in shotput. It has been an Olympic sport since 1896, and colleges maintain teams. He chose it because so few students go for the scholarships available, and he says the kids in his area have attended such poor schools they cannot compete for college scholarships academically. Also they are white, so a sport scholarship or joining the military are their ways to get out of town.
These are not my experiences, they are what I have been told. In my life I have always stayed away from anything that required competition, and know nothing about sports. I'm like my Irish Wolfhounds, who do not fetch. The Irish say "If you threw it away, why would they want it?"
Simply put and pitch perfect. Competing in sports teaches women (and men) so many intrinsic values: true grit, discipline and determination, and sportsmanship. There is NO sportsmanship in cheating! Which is exactly what men in womens’ sports amounts to. Don’t agree? The Kentucky Derby has been run for 150 years. In all those years, how many times has a filly won? Three. That’s right, three. Males are just bigger, stronger and faster. The animal kingdom has many lessons to teach us, eh? Failing that, I identify as an NBA player, so put me on the team. Watch the “men” start losing $$$ and you’ll hear the wailing begin. 🙄
I remember you! Thanks for this piece, and for being a strong honest voice for the sport.
Ditto! Syosset NY, 1971: A female swimmer needed to be rescued. It was found out that the coach didn’t know how to swim.
Leaves one speechless ... very weird. It's like someone teaching a pilot to fly an aircraft and doesn't know how to fly.