The fictional alien race the Borg insisted that you will be assimilated. Currnent open border policy is designed to avoid assimilation. To come to America legally it is necessary to speak English, be at least 18 years of age, must have a place of residence, you need to have good moral character without significant criminal history, be willing to serve in the military, show knowledge of US history and government and swear allegiance to the United States plus much more. To come illegally you need nothing but an open hand wanting to be buttered. Legal immigrants want to become Americans while illegal immigrants want to become beneficiaries of American generosity. An assimilated immigrant population can strengthen our country while an unassimilated population is a disjointed collection of different ethnic groups each in their own communities speaking their own languages. Without an American identity the ability to act in the interest of America is as foreign as our language to these immigrants. The concept of making America great again falls on deaf ears. You can bet that when given the opportunity to vote the illegal immigrants will reward the Democrat party for all they have done destroy America.
I want to point something out. I had written this column in 2013. I already knew what was coming and knew it wasn't going to be good, but I had no idea how really bad it could get. After this column was published in the SB Newspress, my life was threatened by a number of people/groups. Typical tolerant left. And as was to be expected same old tired nonsense of being racist, hating Hispanics yadayadayada. I never in my wildest dreams could have predicted the horror that faces America today. And as we are now all aware, it's not just south of the border, it's worldwide taking advantage of Biden's red carpet to America. I still can't fathom why the left/democrat/socialists are okay with it. Their own well being, their own families are and will suffer from this massive illegal influx. And the solution is so simple. Biden has to undo what he did on day one as a dictator when he reversed Trumps successful policies and take some of those billions being squandered on the illegals, tossed overseas and otherwise wasted on stupid things like the Green New Disaster and build the damn wall.
We are committing national suicide with this invasion, and it infuriates me. All immigration into this country should be predicated on what the immigrant has to offer this country, not the other way around. We owe them nothing.
Your statement doesn’t make much sense but in case you forgot …the only president found liable for sexually abusing a woman is Trump.
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NancyKaren,
As usual, you're ALMOST right about the presidential sexual abuse thing.
Wasn't there a guy named Slick Willy who seemed to have a "history"?
Here's a little summary from
NEWSWEEK 2017
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Clinton's legacy will always be tainted by his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, who has said that while Clinton "took advantage" of her, their relationship was consensual. A sexual harassment lawsuit from Paula Jones also led to the perjury and abuse of power charges that ended in Clinton's impeachment.
But Clinton's alleged acts came long before his presidency. Juanita Broaddrick said Clinton raped her in 1978, when he was Arkansas attorney general. When she first went public with her accusations in 1999, she told the Washington Post that the incident occurred when reporters interfered with plans to meet Clinton for coffee in the lobby of her hotel, so she invited him up to her room. Broaddrick told the outlet it was just a matter of minutes before Clinton began kissing her
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NancyKaren,
I'm still waiting for your reply to several of my questions...especially regarding your Feb 10th post about "f-me heels", FOX newscasters, and "...long false hair careening down to cover each breast..."
____
DIRECT QUOTE FROM
Nancy’s FAMOUS Substack
FEB 10 2024
OUR COUNTRY IS DIVIDED BETWEEN THOSE WHO WATCH MSNBC ( fact-based info with sources quoted ) AND THOSE DELUDED ONES WHO WATCH FOX ( lies and hopeful opinions and idiotic women wearing f-me high heels and revealing their thighs……what has that got to do with FACTS?
Oh, I forgot the requisite long false hair careening down to cover each breast…..oh help me…WHOM ARE THEY APPEALING TO?j
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AGAIN, Karen, please bring your cats and let's do lunch ! ! 🐡
Weak article. Author under-informed of existing laws. Simply enforce current laws. Close the borders and ports for a year or two. Deport non-citizens without authority to be here (VISA, court date, processing documents). A child born on US soil to someone not authorized to be here technically is NOT a USCitizen. Center for Immigration Studies has white papers on this topic. Sadly, we elect inept reps to Congress which must clarify the confusion. Tourist babies, infants born to visitors - are not explicitly citizens. These infants can be issued non-US citizen birth certificates.
Remember all those caravans of future Illegal Aliens slogging northward through Mexistan and wearing Tee shirts that said "Biden, let us in" or something to that effect. They didn't say that when Donald Trump was President. Thank you DEMOcRATS for electing (cheating) to get your child molesting (watch any of the many videos of him caressing young girls), brain damaged criminal, traitor into office. And lets not forget Word Salad Kamel.
Didn't Trump marry two illegal immigrants raised in Communist countries after their visas expired? Doesn't Trump hire illegal immigrants to work at his construction sites, cut his golf course grass, do his laundry? Was Reagan a DEMOcRAT when he gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants? I live in California and there are not many native citizens picking the fruit and vegetables, or working in the slaughterhouses processing meat. Trump has raped several women, some of them on a private island with his buddy Epstein, and he even admitted doing so on the "Access Hollywood" tape. Are you aware that your hateful, ignorant comments bring shame and dishonor to all of us who share your Jutlander heritage.
Let me start by stating that I am opposed to illegal immigration, lest anyone accuse me of being in favor of “open borders” (I am not). The Biden Administration has clearly failed in this area, and although Trump is showing his true colors by single-handedly killing the recent bipartisan immigration bill, it is Biden who gave him the opening to do so by waiting too long to act.
Most Americans are frustrated by what is happening at the border, but none more so than conservatives, who perceive that liberals are fighting them at every opportunity. Some of us would be more willing to join you in your fight if you would simply stop denigrating immigrants when you write about this subject. A person could easily make an articulate, intelligent argument for more border security without lying about immigrants as criminals (from the article: “there is a large segment of immigrants responsible for domestic violence, gangs, drugs, and drunk driving.”) Multiple studies have shown that immigrants, including illegal immigrants, commit crimes at lower rates than native-born Americans.
Also, “comprehensive immigration reform” is not some scam perpetuated by the left. Every president since Reagan (who famously and rightfully provided amnesty), both Republican and Democrat, have used this term. Here’s George W. Bush’s proposal for comprehensive immigration reform from 2007:
Call it what you want, but we need to improve security while also making it easier for immigrants to enter the country legally. Immigrants are a net plus to our economy, and maybe you haven’t noticed but the young people ain’t making babies anymore.
To portray the Democrats as wanting chaos at the border is completely false. Poll after poll shows that immigration is the number one issue for All Americans.
The statement you made below is incendiary and false:
“And the left is using the fact that they don’t care who comes in, what their legal status is or if they’re criminals or not as the rock to pound over conservatives’ heads to show what bad people those on the right are because they have no heart.”
I live in Santa Barbara so I know lots of Democrats and your statement is not true for any one of them. You are merely repeating Trumpian propaganda.
I realize that your article is most likely due to the fact that Trump put a stop to the most comprehensive bipartisan immigration bill ever passed by the Senate. May I reiterate BIPARTISAN.
Bottom Line: Immigration reform is wanted by all Americans. The GOP now looks like they are more interested in political power than solving our immigration problem.
I’d vote for Jack the Ripper before I’d vote for a Commie-Dem. Crook Biden, (and Traitor Obama before him), has ruined American and diluted everything about this great country with their crazy idea of everybody in the world being equal. False - there are lots of garbage people who would kill you for your shoes if they thought they could get away with it. Rehabilitation? Reform? A complete waste of time - it’s in their DNA. You just wait until the alien gangs get organized - they’ll show you how savages _really_ conduct business.
Your argument suddenly is that laws aren’t needed but look what Trump said while president:
Trump, July 2019, “What the Democrats should be doing now is they should be changing the loopholes, they should be changing asylum.”
Trump April 2019, “Most importantly, Democrats must change our immigration laws right now.”
And from Speaker Johnson:
In February 2023, Johnson stated flatly that “our immigration system is broken. Reforming that system is a job for Congress.”
You’d be forgiven for thinking it was an excuse to justify capitulation to Trump, who has urged the GOP to reject anything but a hard-line bill passed by the House, which has no prospect in the Democratic-controlled Senate.
I probably don't agree with Nancy about very much, but she is right about this issue. Our immigration laws are severely broken and the bipartisan bill just introduced in the Senate was a step in the right direction. Trump was impeded by the current laws while he was president. Many illegal immigrants crossed the border because of "catch and release" (many millions) while he was president. In the end he got Mexico to detain the immigrants before they got to the border but that was never going to be a permanent solution, depending on another country to enforce our immigration laws. Both sides want to complain about the issue but neither is really willing to realistically fix the problem, considering we live in a Democracy where compromise is essential to get anything done.
Yes, actually, it IS about Trump. He is the head of your party. He will clench the nomination... a criminal with 91 counts against him and myriad lawsuits and rape charges, yet you deflect and gaslight. That's the GOP. Today's GOP IS Trump, Trump, Trump. If you don't embrace him yet you still vote for him, you are complicit.
The Washington Post provides two good reasons why we need the Senate immigration bill. The first one would allow us to enforce the current laws that you support.
This supplemental package would fund more than 4,300 new asylum officers and support staff, 100 additional immigration judge teams, 1,500 border patrol agents and customs officers, and 1,200 Immigration and Customs Enforcement staff to help with deportations. It would also provide detention capacity for 50,000 extra border crossers per year and more deportation flights. It would crack down on dubious asylum claims by raising the evidentiary standard for initiating an application. The bill would also empower asylum officers to rule on the merits of some applications earlier in the process.
The element of the agreement perhaps most misunderstood among Republicans is a Border Emergency Authority that would allow the president to turn away most asylum seekers if more than 5,000 people arrive daily, measured over the course of several days, which has been the case every week but one in the past four months. This goes further than the Title 42 authorities Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden invoked during the pandemic, restricting migrants who are turned away from reapplying for a year. Practically, this authority would end the migrant caravans.
Didn't Nancy stop building The Wall because Mexico was NOT paying for it and Trump was ciphoning the funds to do it from military housing projects that was intended to provide homes to our active duty military families?
Have you even been to Mexico? Mexico has been funding education, social services, and health care for years, despite being a poor country. It is so bad down there that thousands of American "ex-pats" have retired to Mexico, or cross the border to get their teeth fixed. Most of the illegal immigrants are coming here for jobs, not handouts. It is American businesses who are hiring them illegally that entices more to come. Any "Wall" we build will never be as "effective" as the one I patrolled between East and West Germany during the Cold War. You may recall that it had mine fields, heat-seeking cameras, machine-gun towers, and "shoot first, ask questions later" border guards. By the way, that "Wall" did not stop illegal immigration OUT of East Germany. A "Wall" that keeps "them" out also keeps "us" trapped inside.
I find it interesting that, when considering the impact of deporting all the illegal immigrants in this country, your first thought is... teacher unions? And I like how you use the Tucker Carlson "just asking questions" method of telling us how you really feel.
The negative impact on the economy of deporting illegal immigrants would be far worse than a few unemployed teachers. That's why Trump won't actually deport them - he's not that dumb. Trump's "I'll deport all the illegals on Day 1" is 2024's version of "I'll build a wall and Mexico will pay for it." Of course, that won't stop Trump supporters from believing him, and then making excuses for him when he doesn't do it.
Oh, one more thing: Orangeman Bad. I know that's what you hear when someone to the left of you speaks.
You don’t think Trump will deport them? Dream on! He’ll not only deport them, he’ll set up an _aggressive_ ‘task force’ to do so - at least I hope he does. It’ll take Trumpy about 2 weeks to have the Commie-Dems screaming Nazi, Hitler etc. The days of bleeding hearts, concerned with every alien except Americans will be over _quick_!
It may surprise you to hear that I am not in favor of illegal immigration or open borders, and I would welcome a realistic solution to the problem. I have stated this very clearly elsewhere in this comment section. You see, just because I disagree with you about ONE thing, doesn’t mean I disagree with you about ALL things. Where we disagree, and the point of my response to your comment, is on the impact of summarily deporting 16.8 million people from this country.*
From what I can gather, you seem to think this mass deportation would be low cost ($250 each), and have huge benefits, the main benefits being a 50% reduction in teachers and more education dollars for legal students. (And I guess as an added bonus, education unions would have less power.) Setting aside your cost estimate, which is so naively low I can only assume you are joking, I question two things about your analysis.
First, I searched for data (help me if you have a good source) and I found a range of estimates for undocumented schoolchildren in CA. On the high side, one report estimated that 12% of schoolchildren in CA had at least one parent that was undocumented. It’s reasonable to assume that if the undocumented parent gets deported, the child will leave, too. So maybe you get a 12% reduction in teachers. Please help me understand the data behind your estimate of 50%.
Second, even if you're right about teachers, I think your myopic focus on the so-called benefits to education ignore the much bigger impact of removing 16 million people from this nation’s economy. Reagan understood this, Bush understood this, and I think even Trump might understand this. These people buy things. You may not like that they’re here, but you can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube without seriously messing up the economy.
In the end, you and I can agree to disagree. I’ll be interested to see what Trump does. If he does round people up into camps and deport them, we can get back together and assess the results. If the economy is booming, I will have no problem admitting I was wrong. I just want things to be better; I don’t care which team’s idea it was.
*I got this estimate from Federation for American Immigration Reform, an organization whose stated objective is to eliminate illegal immigration and reduce legal immigration.
It’s no surprise that undocumented immigrants pay less in taxes than the cost of their education and other benefits. The reason is obvious – they don’t make a lot of money. Low income people don’t pay a lot of taxes, whether they’re legal citizens or not. That’s just how the tax code works.
So we could deport these people and save California $24B, right? Well, not so fast. Who’s going to take all of those low income jobs that the undocumented immigrants were doing? I’m sure Gen Z can’t wait to get out there and pick fruit, am I right?
Not to sound like a broken record, but all of these “analyses” about how much illegal immigrants are taking from us fail to acknowledge their total economic impact. Research from Cal Lutheran estimates they contribute $150B to California’s economy.
Again, I agree we need a solution to the border issue, I just disagree that deporting 16M people is a good idea.
The fictional alien race the Borg insisted that you will be assimilated. Currnent open border policy is designed to avoid assimilation. To come to America legally it is necessary to speak English, be at least 18 years of age, must have a place of residence, you need to have good moral character without significant criminal history, be willing to serve in the military, show knowledge of US history and government and swear allegiance to the United States plus much more. To come illegally you need nothing but an open hand wanting to be buttered. Legal immigrants want to become Americans while illegal immigrants want to become beneficiaries of American generosity. An assimilated immigrant population can strengthen our country while an unassimilated population is a disjointed collection of different ethnic groups each in their own communities speaking their own languages. Without an American identity the ability to act in the interest of America is as foreign as our language to these immigrants. The concept of making America great again falls on deaf ears. You can bet that when given the opportunity to vote the illegal immigrants will reward the Democrat party for all they have done destroy America.
Your comment is excellent. There are so many ways illegal immigration is bad for America. This article should generate many comments.
I want to point something out. I had written this column in 2013. I already knew what was coming and knew it wasn't going to be good, but I had no idea how really bad it could get. After this column was published in the SB Newspress, my life was threatened by a number of people/groups. Typical tolerant left. And as was to be expected same old tired nonsense of being racist, hating Hispanics yadayadayada. I never in my wildest dreams could have predicted the horror that faces America today. And as we are now all aware, it's not just south of the border, it's worldwide taking advantage of Biden's red carpet to America. I still can't fathom why the left/democrat/socialists are okay with it. Their own well being, their own families are and will suffer from this massive illegal influx. And the solution is so simple. Biden has to undo what he did on day one as a dictator when he reversed Trumps successful policies and take some of those billions being squandered on the illegals, tossed overseas and otherwise wasted on stupid things like the Green New Disaster and build the damn wall.
We are committing national suicide with this invasion, and it infuriates me. All immigration into this country should be predicated on what the immigrant has to offer this country, not the other way around. We owe them nothing.
You seem nice.
I should be nice about watching my country being destroyed? I’m America first, and I make no apology for it.
There is no America without immigrants.
So what? That doesn’t mean we’re obliged to take in everyone who wants to come here!
Doug - you mean immigrants who apply to enter the country legally, _ right_?
America First for WHO? Definitely not for women. Or LBGTQ. Or Latinos. Just the wealthy white people, right? Yeah. Thought so.
For all CITIZENS. Fixed it for you. Don’t project your hate on me, thank you.
POSTED Feb 27
Nancy’s Substack
Your statement doesn’t make much sense but in case you forgot …the only president found liable for sexually abusing a woman is Trump.
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NancyKaren,
As usual, you're ALMOST right about the presidential sexual abuse thing.
Wasn't there a guy named Slick Willy who seemed to have a "history"?
Here's a little summary from
NEWSWEEK 2017
____
Clinton's legacy will always be tainted by his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, who has said that while Clinton "took advantage" of her, their relationship was consensual. A sexual harassment lawsuit from Paula Jones also led to the perjury and abuse of power charges that ended in Clinton's impeachment.
But Clinton's alleged acts came long before his presidency. Juanita Broaddrick said Clinton raped her in 1978, when he was Arkansas attorney general. When she first went public with her accusations in 1999, she told the Washington Post that the incident occurred when reporters interfered with plans to meet Clinton for coffee in the lobby of her hotel, so she invited him up to her room. Broaddrick told the outlet it was just a matter of minutes before Clinton began kissing her
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NancyKaren,
I'm still waiting for your reply to several of my questions...especially regarding your Feb 10th post about "f-me heels", FOX newscasters, and "...long false hair careening down to cover each breast..."
____
DIRECT QUOTE FROM
Nancy’s FAMOUS Substack
FEB 10 2024
OUR COUNTRY IS DIVIDED BETWEEN THOSE WHO WATCH MSNBC ( fact-based info with sources quoted ) AND THOSE DELUDED ONES WHO WATCH FOX ( lies and hopeful opinions and idiotic women wearing f-me high heels and revealing their thighs……what has that got to do with FACTS?
Oh, I forgot the requisite long false hair careening down to cover each breast…..oh help me…WHOM ARE THEY APPEALING TO?j
____
AGAIN, Karen, please bring your cats and let's do lunch ! ! 🐡
Dale
I’ll grant you Clinton is a sexual dirt bag just like Trump.
The Republican Way: Deflect, Obstruct, Gaslight.
Weak article. Author under-informed of existing laws. Simply enforce current laws. Close the borders and ports for a year or two. Deport non-citizens without authority to be here (VISA, court date, processing documents). A child born on US soil to someone not authorized to be here technically is NOT a USCitizen. Center for Immigration Studies has white papers on this topic. Sadly, we elect inept reps to Congress which must clarify the confusion. Tourist babies, infants born to visitors - are not explicitly citizens. These infants can be issued non-US citizen birth certificates.
This was as true when as was written as it is today. Arguing with apologists for this insanity is as futile as barking back at a rabid dog.
Great analogy! :)
Remember all those caravans of future Illegal Aliens slogging northward through Mexistan and wearing Tee shirts that said "Biden, let us in" or something to that effect. They didn't say that when Donald Trump was President. Thank you DEMOcRATS for electing (cheating) to get your child molesting (watch any of the many videos of him caressing young girls), brain damaged criminal, traitor into office. And lets not forget Word Salad Kamel.
Didn't Trump marry two illegal immigrants raised in Communist countries after their visas expired? Doesn't Trump hire illegal immigrants to work at his construction sites, cut his golf course grass, do his laundry? Was Reagan a DEMOcRAT when he gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants? I live in California and there are not many native citizens picking the fruit and vegetables, or working in the slaughterhouses processing meat. Trump has raped several women, some of them on a private island with his buddy Epstein, and he even admitted doing so on the "Access Hollywood" tape. Are you aware that your hateful, ignorant comments bring shame and dishonor to all of us who share your Jutlander heritage.
Your statement doesn’t make much sense but in case you forgot …the only president found liable for sexually abusing a woman is Trump.
Let me start by stating that I am opposed to illegal immigration, lest anyone accuse me of being in favor of “open borders” (I am not). The Biden Administration has clearly failed in this area, and although Trump is showing his true colors by single-handedly killing the recent bipartisan immigration bill, it is Biden who gave him the opening to do so by waiting too long to act.
Most Americans are frustrated by what is happening at the border, but none more so than conservatives, who perceive that liberals are fighting them at every opportunity. Some of us would be more willing to join you in your fight if you would simply stop denigrating immigrants when you write about this subject. A person could easily make an articulate, intelligent argument for more border security without lying about immigrants as criminals (from the article: “there is a large segment of immigrants responsible for domestic violence, gangs, drugs, and drunk driving.”) Multiple studies have shown that immigrants, including illegal immigrants, commit crimes at lower rates than native-born Americans.
Also, “comprehensive immigration reform” is not some scam perpetuated by the left. Every president since Reagan (who famously and rightfully provided amnesty), both Republican and Democrat, have used this term. Here’s George W. Bush’s proposal for comprehensive immigration reform from 2007:
https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/stateoftheunion/2007/initiatives/immigration.html
Call it what you want, but we need to improve security while also making it easier for immigrants to enter the country legally. Immigrants are a net plus to our economy, and maybe you haven’t noticed but the young people ain’t making babies anymore.
I beg to differ with Mr Schulte’s article.
First. Immigration is an American problem
To portray the Democrats as wanting chaos at the border is completely false. Poll after poll shows that immigration is the number one issue for All Americans.
The statement you made below is incendiary and false:
“And the left is using the fact that they don’t care who comes in, what their legal status is or if they’re criminals or not as the rock to pound over conservatives’ heads to show what bad people those on the right are because they have no heart.”
I live in Santa Barbara so I know lots of Democrats and your statement is not true for any one of them. You are merely repeating Trumpian propaganda.
I realize that your article is most likely due to the fact that Trump put a stop to the most comprehensive bipartisan immigration bill ever passed by the Senate. May I reiterate BIPARTISAN.
Bottom Line: Immigration reform is wanted by all Americans. The GOP now looks like they are more interested in political power than solving our immigration problem.
I’d vote for Jack the Ripper before I’d vote for a Commie-Dem. Crook Biden, (and Traitor Obama before him), has ruined American and diluted everything about this great country with their crazy idea of everybody in the world being equal. False - there are lots of garbage people who would kill you for your shoes if they thought they could get away with it. Rehabilitation? Reform? A complete waste of time - it’s in their DNA. You just wait until the alien gangs get organized - they’ll show you how savages _really_ conduct business.
Your argument suddenly is that laws aren’t needed but look what Trump said while president:
Trump, July 2019, “What the Democrats should be doing now is they should be changing the loopholes, they should be changing asylum.”
Trump April 2019, “Most importantly, Democrats must change our immigration laws right now.”
And from Speaker Johnson:
In February 2023, Johnson stated flatly that “our immigration system is broken. Reforming that system is a job for Congress.”
You’d be forgiven for thinking it was an excuse to justify capitulation to Trump, who has urged the GOP to reject anything but a hard-line bill passed by the House, which has no prospect in the Democratic-controlled Senate.
I probably don't agree with Nancy about very much, but she is right about this issue. Our immigration laws are severely broken and the bipartisan bill just introduced in the Senate was a step in the right direction. Trump was impeded by the current laws while he was president. Many illegal immigrants crossed the border because of "catch and release" (many millions) while he was president. In the end he got Mexico to detain the immigrants before they got to the border but that was never going to be a permanent solution, depending on another country to enforce our immigration laws. Both sides want to complain about the issue but neither is really willing to realistically fix the problem, considering we live in a Democracy where compromise is essential to get anything done.
Yes, actually, it IS about Trump. He is the head of your party. He will clench the nomination... a criminal with 91 counts against him and myriad lawsuits and rape charges, yet you deflect and gaslight. That's the GOP. Today's GOP IS Trump, Trump, Trump. If you don't embrace him yet you still vote for him, you are complicit.
Sad to say there is no longer a Republican/GOP party, there is only the Trump party controlled by one man.
As long as you generalize about ‘the left’ I’ll continue to reference the right as Trump and Trumpers.
I sure hope so - thank you Nance.
Trump controls what once was the Republican party. That cannot be disputed.
The Washington Post provides two good reasons why we need the Senate immigration bill. The first one would allow us to enforce the current laws that you support.
This supplemental package would fund more than 4,300 new asylum officers and support staff, 100 additional immigration judge teams, 1,500 border patrol agents and customs officers, and 1,200 Immigration and Customs Enforcement staff to help with deportations. It would also provide detention capacity for 50,000 extra border crossers per year and more deportation flights. It would crack down on dubious asylum claims by raising the evidentiary standard for initiating an application. The bill would also empower asylum officers to rule on the merits of some applications earlier in the process.
The element of the agreement perhaps most misunderstood among Republicans is a Border Emergency Authority that would allow the president to turn away most asylum seekers if more than 5,000 people arrive daily, measured over the course of several days, which has been the case every week but one in the past four months. This goes further than the Title 42 authorities Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden invoked during the pandemic, restricting migrants who are turned away from reapplying for a year. Practically, this authority would end the migrant caravans.
_Five Thousand Illegal Aliens a Day_! !? How Zero a Day unless they apply legally!
What exactly did WaPo get wrong?
Right on J. !
Didn't Nancy stop building The Wall because Mexico was NOT paying for it and Trump was ciphoning the funds to do it from military housing projects that was intended to provide homes to our active duty military families?
Have you even been to Mexico? Mexico has been funding education, social services, and health care for years, despite being a poor country. It is so bad down there that thousands of American "ex-pats" have retired to Mexico, or cross the border to get their teeth fixed. Most of the illegal immigrants are coming here for jobs, not handouts. It is American businesses who are hiring them illegally that entices more to come. Any "Wall" we build will never be as "effective" as the one I patrolled between East and West Germany during the Cold War. You may recall that it had mine fields, heat-seeking cameras, machine-gun towers, and "shoot first, ask questions later" border guards. By the way, that "Wall" did not stop illegal immigration OUT of East Germany. A "Wall" that keeps "them" out also keeps "us" trapped inside.
Tucker Carlson is not a credible source. He’s a known liar.
NancyKaren
You're absolutely (?) correct.
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"Sad to say there is no longer a Republican/GOP party, there is only the Trump party controlled by one man.
As long as you generalize about ‘the left’ I’ll continue to reference the right as Trump and Trumpers."
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It's not YOU...it's those (74 million) "Trumpers".
https://www.heysigmund.com/when-its-not-you-its-them-the-toxic-people-that-ruin-friendships-families-relationships/
That's the thing. You hear CCN repeat that and yet, allowing 5,000 across a day is not a border deal. It's the status quo.
LOL. Patently UNTRUE.
I find it interesting that, when considering the impact of deporting all the illegal immigrants in this country, your first thought is... teacher unions? And I like how you use the Tucker Carlson "just asking questions" method of telling us how you really feel.
The negative impact on the economy of deporting illegal immigrants would be far worse than a few unemployed teachers. That's why Trump won't actually deport them - he's not that dumb. Trump's "I'll deport all the illegals on Day 1" is 2024's version of "I'll build a wall and Mexico will pay for it." Of course, that won't stop Trump supporters from believing him, and then making excuses for him when he doesn't do it.
Oh, one more thing: Orangeman Bad. I know that's what you hear when someone to the left of you speaks.
You don’t think Trump will deport them? Dream on! He’ll not only deport them, he’ll set up an _aggressive_ ‘task force’ to do so - at least I hope he does. It’ll take Trumpy about 2 weeks to have the Commie-Dems screaming Nazi, Hitler etc. The days of bleeding hearts, concerned with every alien except Americans will be over _quick_!
It may surprise you to hear that I am not in favor of illegal immigration or open borders, and I would welcome a realistic solution to the problem. I have stated this very clearly elsewhere in this comment section. You see, just because I disagree with you about ONE thing, doesn’t mean I disagree with you about ALL things. Where we disagree, and the point of my response to your comment, is on the impact of summarily deporting 16.8 million people from this country.*
From what I can gather, you seem to think this mass deportation would be low cost ($250 each), and have huge benefits, the main benefits being a 50% reduction in teachers and more education dollars for legal students. (And I guess as an added bonus, education unions would have less power.) Setting aside your cost estimate, which is so naively low I can only assume you are joking, I question two things about your analysis.
First, I searched for data (help me if you have a good source) and I found a range of estimates for undocumented schoolchildren in CA. On the high side, one report estimated that 12% of schoolchildren in CA had at least one parent that was undocumented. It’s reasonable to assume that if the undocumented parent gets deported, the child will leave, too. So maybe you get a 12% reduction in teachers. Please help me understand the data behind your estimate of 50%.
Second, even if you're right about teachers, I think your myopic focus on the so-called benefits to education ignore the much bigger impact of removing 16 million people from this nation’s economy. Reagan understood this, Bush understood this, and I think even Trump might understand this. These people buy things. You may not like that they’re here, but you can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube without seriously messing up the economy.
In the end, you and I can agree to disagree. I’ll be interested to see what Trump does. If he does round people up into camps and deport them, we can get back together and assess the results. If the economy is booming, I will have no problem admitting I was wrong. I just want things to be better; I don’t care which team’s idea it was.
*I got this estimate from Federation for American Immigration Reform, an organization whose stated objective is to eliminate illegal immigration and reduce legal immigration.
Here’s where I got the 12% number (1 out of 8 is about 12%):
https://edsource.org/2017/1-in-8-children-in-california-schools-have-an-undocumented-parent/580621
It’s no surprise that undocumented immigrants pay less in taxes than the cost of their education and other benefits. The reason is obvious – they don’t make a lot of money. Low income people don’t pay a lot of taxes, whether they’re legal citizens or not. That’s just how the tax code works.
So we could deport these people and save California $24B, right? Well, not so fast. Who’s going to take all of those low income jobs that the undocumented immigrants were doing? I’m sure Gen Z can’t wait to get out there and pick fruit, am I right?
Not to sound like a broken record, but all of these “analyses” about how much illegal immigrants are taking from us fail to acknowledge their total economic impact. Research from Cal Lutheran estimates they contribute $150B to California’s economy.
Again, I agree we need a solution to the border issue, I just disagree that deporting 16M people is a good idea.
J. - airfare - are you kidding? Make them swim back the way they came, and if they try entering illegally again, arrest them.