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Bill Russell's avatar

Prior to all the now, super-boring pharma commercials which eventually will drive anyone insane, I enjoyed the days with the Maxwell House coffee commercials, Tide Soap, Brylcreem (A little dab'll do ya), Mr. Clean, etc. Of course, I'm going back to the 1950's when life was simple and I looked forward to watching those Saturday morning shows of Buster Brown, Roy Rogers, Hopalong Cassidy, Lone Ranger. Simply lots of fun shows for the kids. When someone was killed in a cowboy show, you knew it was fake; the guy fell down and no blood. Then the Hollywood squid was invented to spray blood everywhere ... especially good when color TV came around in 1954 (if you had $1K and $500 in 1957). Everything had to be made to look real. Now we have "real" fake politicians offering free stuff. Adults are suckers like little kids accepting candy from a stranger. Seems everyone has to be pampered now to keep them happy; provided fake promises from politicians like paying school debts and on and on and on. People pretend to be happy but are really miserable. We are going through an end-of-the-world syndrome.

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Bill Russell's avatar

Whoops ... I trapped myself doing a Kamala "story telling" routine. I hope I didn't come off as a "word salad" generator.

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Polly Frost's avatar

If that's a word salad it's a nicely composed one. I love a good composed salad, like Salade Nicoise or Cobb Salad. The problem with Kamala's word salads is they're tossed together Dada-style, but whereas the Dadaists began with fresh words, Kamalas words were sprayed with Roundup amd Bill Gates' Appeel, so they're dead before they hit the plate.

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J. Livingston's avatar

‘‘Twas brillag, and the slithy toves did gire and gimble in the wabe……

(Spellcheck had fit letting me post this single memorized line from Jabberwocky, another AI weapon against literary whimsy.)

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Polly Frost's avatar

AI thinks whimsy leads to misinformation. Btw, I love it when people have poems memorized. My mom had that poem and many others ready for the occasion until she passed away at almost 96.

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Bill Russell's avatar

Jabberwocky

Lewis Carroll

1832 –1898

’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves

Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;

All mimsy were the borogoves,

And the mome raths outgrabe.

“Beware the Jabberwock, my son

The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!

Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun

The frumious Bandersnatch!”

He took his vorpal sword in hand;

Long time the manxome foe he sought—

So rested he by the Tumtum tree,

And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,

The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,

Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,

And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through

The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!

He left it dead, and with its head

He went galumphing back.

“And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?

Come to my arms, my beamish boy!

O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!”

He chortled in his joy.

’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves

Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;

All mimsy were the borogoves,

And the mome raths outgrabe.

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Bill Russell's avatar

Jabberwocky is a poem form that makes you read a few times to understand what's happening. I'm thinking this would be an interesting format for teaching complex things, such as the basic transistor, because of the challenge involved in sifting through the writing and the subject you want to get across. It provides a fun, mental challenge.

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Bill Russell's avatar

AI is no smarter than the people creating AI ... mostly biased Dem engineers. I would never depend on AI medical conclusions, such as when you are older to just take a pill for pain ... Obama's recommendation.

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Bill Russell's avatar

Very visual writing, Polly and I like it. You opened up an entirely new minefield of Harris salad visuals. I'm thinking now Harris might be properly starting an answer to a question by beginning with the "salad" and then she forgets the main meal, such as the answer to a question. And the dessert comes when she finally shuts up!

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Polly Frost's avatar

You described her perfectly!

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Jeff barton's avatar

I used to respect my doctor. I admired the pharmaceutical industry for what I believed were miracle cures. I viewed science as an uncorruptible search for the truth. I devoted my life to science. Then covid came along and all of my views changed. Not about science but about human nature. I learned that science is as corruptible as human nature. People can be deplorable in their quest for wealth or equally in their complacency. The greatest healthcare system on the planet knowingly forced most Americans to to inject a substance with no demonstrable benefit and significant risk. Most doctors were complacent. My doctor will no longer see me for questioning the efficacy of covid boosters. I guess easy money has a powerful corrupting influence which used to draw people to politics but now draws many to medicine.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Your doctor won't see you? Disgusting. I have a terrific doctor here, Dr. Alex Murdoch, who I highly recommend to you. He is partners with Dr. Aijian.

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Jeff barton's avatar

Rather than try to convince me that my concern about covid boosters was unfounded, BIRKEN refused to see me when I injured my hip. I had been seeing BIRKEN for over 20 years. He was my "Dr" when I was diagnosed in 2008 with Wegeners autoimmune disease two months following my first ever flu vaccine encouraged by BIRKEN. Only after receiving my two Moderna shots did I realize true nature of the vaccine , the pharmaceutical industry and the complacency of BIRKEN. Today I will only see a "Dr" if I feel I have nothing to lose. Maybe I can live with the health of the Amish. I know that Aijian and Murdoch are exceptions and proof that humans are not universally corrupt.

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Polly Frost's avatar

During the Covid period, I didn't have a doctor here yet. I knew I wasn't right healthwise but figured it was just caused by sadness from going through my mom's last year. And the requirement of getting vaxxed to have a dr made me decide to tough it out. So I ended up in the hospital for three weeks from a complete physical collapse, my husband found me on the ground unable to get up. The hospital assigned Murdoch to me and he was fantastic. I've been super lucky in the doctors assigned to me during emergencies here. Fourteen years ago I was visiting my mom here and ended up in the ER with shingles in my eye. They assigned Dr. Mark Silverberg to me. Again, a truly superb eye dr. He said shingles in one's eye are so serious (they can go into the brain) he thought I should try a new medication, but emphasized it was new. There are some really great drs here who listen to and respect their patients.

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Jeff barton's avatar

It must be comforting to have faith in your doctor. The uncorrupted are a small minority. The rest push therapies like statins and vaccines proven safe and effective by the manufacturer.

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Polly Frost's avatar

And my other bad experience was with a dr here when I was a teen. I had this lunchtime career modeling Kimo's Polynesian clothes at the Harbor restaurant but I needed to lose weight or it'd be back to stocking the shelves at Coronet. My dr being Catholic didn't believe in birth control, but was happy to prescribe diet pills. I lost the weight but ended up in the ER. My dr was convinced I was pregnant not that I'd taken too many amphetamines. The dr and my mom got into an argument in the ER about whether or not I was a teenage tart and my mother drew herself up to her regal height and said “If my daughter is pregnant it's the Immaculate Conception.”

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Polly Frost's avatar

Yep, all true, i had a dr in NYC who threw me out of his office because I wouldn't take this pill. I read up and there were a few who said they thought it might cause cancer. He became enraged. And guess what? A few years later drug was definitively linked to cancer.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Easy payment by third parties was a primary driving corrupter. That started more than a few decades ago. If health care is not seen as “expensive”, why would people beg for 3P insurance relief? Direct to consumer drug advertising starting with Tagamet, also opened the floodgates of drug hype and the loss of a trusted physician gate keeper.

In fact it was the push in the lay media in the 1960’s to put all women on hormone replacement drugs based on false claims and total lack legitimate testing , but it did create billion dollar block buster demands that led to the current miracle drug false claims model.

Law of unintended consequences struck Medicare too, with a massive trickle down impact, along with a strong overdose of medical malpractice hysteria. You touched a very, very complex topic. The field of bioethics continues to struggle with all of this daily.

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Jeff barton's avatar

You are right to point out the problem of third-party payers. It has been a long time since people have considered just paying for their medical expenses without some form of insurance. The patient is no longer the customer but a vehicle. All the action happens between drug companies and the insurance companies. Worse yet if the insurance is government insurance where solvency of the insurer is never a concern.

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Montecito93108's avatar

Who knows what’s happening in medicine? We do know from the pandemic that professional journals require certain research study conclusions to be considered for publication. We know clinics have billing quotas, and hospitals reward high revenue producing docs. We know the AMA & CMA are no longer respected as they once were by informed docs with integrity. And it’s possible that some young doctors are not as bright, are not critical thinkers, and were admitted to med schools to meet geographic and gender diversity goals and needs. In past decades being a physician, engineer or formally educated professional was admired and paid enough to buy a house to raise a family. A parent volunteered in our schools, and sports activity leagues. Those days are over in CA. High performing local students seem to pursue careers in tech, finance, start ups, or in multi-national corporations.

Is medicine a desired career choice? With the take over of Sansum by Sutter, docs will be paid a higher rate for procedures. Maybe that will help attract some students to pursue costly medical school. There’s great uncertainty ahead.

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Brent's Journal's avatar

Nice summaries Robert. I would start healthcare reform with preventing the members of the CDC and NIH from receiving payments that must be labeled "payoffs." For example, Dr. Fauci received hundreds of thousands of dollars, perhaps millions as the only thing known is there were many "payoffs," while a federal employee. The lies told about COVID greatly harmed our country, perhaps permanrently.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Excellently put, Brent. I don't know how you feel about RFK Jr but I'm rooting for him to take over our healthcare.

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Brent's Journal's avatar

I chose the CDC, NIH and other gov't agencies, because they are the pinch point, or toll takers, that all pharma's must pass through, and over which we should have control.

Based on what little I know about RFK, he is an excellent choice: do you agree?

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Polly Frost's avatar

Agree.

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Cinda McGraw's avatar

Robert: Every Legal Citizen should be asking this question “Who is leading our country?” It certainly isn’t Biden…Kamala

can’t answer even the simplest question about Anything, and Nothing has been

done about President Tump getting the

Essential protection he deserves! Where

are our Leaders?

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Polly Frost's avatar

Major and Champ are running the country. When they were kicked out, they decided it was time for a coup.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Country gone to the dogs? Valid assessment.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Terrific column today, Robert. I didn't watch the debate because it seemed certain to be a non-debate and just a Kamala-fest and when someone wanted to post mortem it to me the next day with how badly Trump did I said “We'll know how Trump did if they try to assassinate him again.” I got my answer.

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PW's avatar

If people are still wondering who killed JFK and attempted assassinating President Trump twice, should read this:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/The-Neocons-2023-R.pdf

Martin Armstrong also explains the truth about climate change which is a hoax built on destroying Russia. 50% of Russia's GDP is oil and natural gas which they want to own for themselves (remember Haliburton?) Do you think it's a coincidence the Cheney clan endorsed Kamala? Think Biden and Burisima. They have pillaged and raped Ukraine in every way possible.

Their plan is simple, regime change (remove Putin and bring in someone amenable to their plan), and then plunder and divvy up the country's wealth like they did in Iraq. Target #1 Russia, Next China, next Iran (this is a big one for them too!), next North Korea......it's endless till they can own all of resources they covet.

This brings us to the big one! They cannot pay off the massive debt (which they had no intention of paying off in the first place) and the 2 big economies standing in their way of writing off this debt are Russia and China. What do you do when your big trading partners do not want to buy your debt any longer? I guess desperation and panic ensues. That is what we are seeing. They took the White House in a coup in 2020 and do not want to let go of the power they hold. They are blinded by hatred and greed.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Mr. Scott, I gather debunking people of the questioning authority persuasion on SB Current is a favorite pastime of yours, but considering who has gone to prison for telling the truth - Julian Assange for one - you need to start doing a little better. We who you think you debunk are not as stupid as you would like to believe.

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Peter Scott's avatar

Easy there young lady! I said nothing disparaging.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Debunking is not disparaging. That's why you try to debunk. So you can claim you're not disparaging. As for using the word “easy” - that should be left to Chris Isaak who claimed it in his song.

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PW's avatar
Sep 17Edited

Using logical reasoning can you guess why he went to prison. Probably knows too much?? He is an economist who developed an AI software called Socrates which predicts global events. It began predicting economic and social events with a high degree of accuracy such as market downturns, upturns, social unrest etc. It is able to do this because it takes into account the cyclical nature of things and looks at global capital inflows and outflows from countries. Mr. Armstrong explains all of this on his blog if you wish to know more. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/

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J. Livingston's avatar

Other threads of independent thinkers are reaching similar conclusions.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Thank you for the link. I knew much of it, but he fills in a lot. And a lot of people don't know the uniparty of Neocons, that Hillary is McCain in a purple pantsuit. Part of me wonders if the assassinations were bungled because what the Neocons really lust for is WWIII and if the assassinations were successful, there wouldn't be the urgency to do anything yo stop the election. But another part of me thinks that if I were a war-mongering Neocon (instead of someone who has always despised the Neocons), these would be the last people I'd trust with a war based on the two assassination attempts. They're as befuddled as Biden.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Neocons are synonymous with the military industrial complex. Democrats have now jumped in bed with them, along with their prior RINO accomplices who have bailed the new GOP. New GOP views this with their eyes wide open. It will be morning again in America.

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PW's avatar
Sep 18Edited

Please watch:

https://usawatchdog.com/a-period-of-great-uncertainty-martin-armstrong/

Our planet is going through a 26,000 year precession cycle in its evolution and everything within Earth's realm including human civilizations are affected by this. If one studies and superimposes earth's cycles with historical cycles we will probably see rise and fall of civilizations at inflection points of the earth's cycles. If you google Schumann resonance(Earth's heartbeat) you will see how it has been rising in the past few years and some scientists believe this affects human behavior.

According to Socrates (AI software developed by Mr. Armstrong's team) this maybe the last election before we descend into chaos and civil unrest. It then predicts that peace and a new form of government will come about around 2032. These are high probability outcomes, not predictions.

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Pablosdog's avatar

Can anyone produce a study comparing the health of folks that have never been v'd to those that have been v'd? Seems it would be beneficial information for those on the fence re the v....especially if from the CDC...if they are truly safe and effective...but I've yet to see such a study from mainstream "health science authorities". I have seen an independent doctor's long term study with a really large sample size that concluded by age 18 kids that did the full schedule visited his office, on average, 8 times more than the non v'd.

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J. Livingston's avatar

You are asking the right question. But who in fact would engage such a study? There are emerging observational studies, but the data is so corrupted during this massive Covid hysterical grip on the world, any valid observations are now left to monitoring only its long term historical artifacts.

The UK with is fully socialized health care model offers the best after the fact modeling. So far there is little that supports the global over reaction to Covid. More, just the opposite.

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Pablosdog's avatar

"You are asking the right question. But who in fact would engage such a study?" The folks marketing "health care" to you...it's the very least they should do. What is the benefit to me based on what data / evidence. Just saying. Cheers on this fall-esq-evening.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Does the health care industrial complex want you worried and scared, or actually healthy. This is a serious question.

Does the military industrial complex want endless wars or world peace?

Same thing.

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Pablosdog's avatar

They want life long "patients" to sell medications and treatments to...

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J. Livingston's avatar

The Framingham Study is the longest running observation study I know about, now reaching over three generations of voluntary data input. They might have some data on vaxxed vs unvaxxed study participants.

Keeping in mind this is a self-report collection of anecdotes, but has revealed some interesting findings over time. After three generations of input, one observation was people generally die at similar age and conditions as one of their parents, but at much higher costs.

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Montecito93108's avatar

Melania sums it up: silence indicates a major backstory. Our leaders, homeland Security to POTUS are MIA.

Regarding Big Pharma: Practice Prevention, before the medical industrial complex bankrupts taxpayers. Why do patients not question their physicians & surgeons? They earn their pay by prescribing and operating. Get second, third, fourth opinions. Research for yourself. Why are patients doctor dependent? We’re an over medicated nation with millions refusing to question, and take responsibility for their own health and well being. Zipping one’s mouth prevents obesity and its many complications. Movement makes a huge difference. Attention deficit disorder is overdiagnosed. Why is that? Some parents want a diagnosis; they want their kid medically fixed whether hyper or hypo or simply because their child does not meet parent expectations.

Having not had medical insurance, until age 65 Medicare withdrawals from my monthly social security check, I’ve been against all medical insurance mandates. I easily got a religious exemption from Obamacare. Now with Medicare, I’m told to get annual mammograms when every ten years was fine for decades when I was a private pay patient. Now insured, various surgical procedures are recommended which I decline, although told “your insurance will pay!” Purchase private medical and/or pharmaceutical insurance only if you want it; reduce costly government guaranteed paid cradle to grave all-inclusive medical care. Too bad: insurance is mandated!

Government, the provider, is simply too big, costly, and invasive. We’ve an obligation to help pay to care for and house our wounded, harmed, disabled veterans; and probably those born with major genetic developmental disabilities. (Louisiana has ‘Homes for the Incurable’).

I was trained that a civilized society cares for those in need — but at what cost? Those without insurance likely take fewer life risks to prevent the need for costly care. Seventh Day Adventists seem to benefit from practicing their dietary and prescribed lifestyles. What about the Amish?

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

In a truly moral society the unborn child isn't murdered in the womb either, yet you support the genocide of the unborn under the guise of "women's autonomy" or "reproductive health"...

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J. Livingston's avatar

You nailed it, Montecito.

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Paul Aijian MD's avatar

The Armenians were disarmed and then systematically murdered, robbed, and raped. Those that survived all this were driven into the Syrian desert to die. The “ Young Turks” were just as evil as the old Turks when it came to dealing with a Christian minority. The Greeks got similar treatment. The governments of Turkey ever since have blamed the Armenians for their own demise. Trusting Turkey as a NATO partner is beyond a dubious idea.

Regarding amphetamines for all the young and old Americans who supposedly have ADD, what could possibly go wrong ? For a small number it is a helpful and legitimate use of prescription stimulants.

Vax the babies, send them to schools where they are taught to distrust their parents and question their gender, and then give them drugs for their mood disorders. What could possibly go wrong. As usual, the crazed behavior these young people sometimes exhibit is blamed on the guns they managed to obtain.

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LT's avatar

The toxic environment which led to now two assassination attempts on President Trump is due to countless comments made by Biden and Harris. So much for “Joy.” Comments such as “Hitler,” “Threat to democracy,” and “Existential threat to democracy,” are just a sample of the vile comments made by Democrats.

Wonder what would have happened if Obama would have been the target of multiple assassination attempts? Can one imagine the manhunt and dragnet laid out to catch those responsible? It would trigger a world wide APB to hunt down those “racist” involved.

The temperature needs to be lowered immediately and stop with these disgusting labels. Why? Because it can also work both ways. Many on the right have millions of weapons and hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition. This has become a powder keg. No one benefits from violence.

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Polly Frost's avatar

LT, I don't think the toxic environment was the cause of the two assassination attempts on Trump. I think the desire of a certain political party to win the presidential election despite having no decent candidate was the cause. Who needs a toxic environment when you have the Democratic Party?

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J. Livingston's avatar

Winning elections is now existential for Democrats. That is the huge shift in our political climate. Too many now work and depend on government tax dollar handouts.

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John Westwick's avatar

I’ve enjoyed many of your recent columns, and was therefore dismayed to see you falling into the trap that your deservedly maligned opponents inhabit. “Big pharma bad”. This is just Pharma derangement syndrome and I’m afraid that in your ignorance you’ve simply joined the Bernie Sanders et al. bandwagon.

Yes, Pharmaceutical companies are big business with the goal of making a profit. If you are surprised or annoyed by this, you might want to re-visit the principles of free-market capitalism and re-read the constitution. The Pharma industry, and smaller biotechs in particular, are among the leading lights of the U.S. dominance of global innovation and commerce. Easy to forget until you or a loved one is a patient in dire need of the new cancer, vaccine or other medication that the U.S. Pharma industry in large part provides.

The vast majority of people working in this industry, myself included, are more interested in curing disease than simply making a buck. We also realize that – without the economic incentives – those cures are not going to happen. Anybody who thinks the government can do this is engaging in a pipe dream. I’d suggest that we applaud rather than condemn what is actually working in our society. As to your stated concerns, we can support our (again, world leading) FDA in its mission to ensure the safety of products that reach patients.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Sorry Westwick, but you might want to run those claims through a local bioethics committee who deal with the front line decisions perpetrated by that unctuous hype. There is no free market in health care today.

Another model needs to underscore your arguments. Soon there will not even be doctors, once a patient starts really listening to their doctors own unguarded moments. We are little more than a bag of metrics to tweak today. That is not health care.

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Monica Bond's avatar

Hi John: Except for one of the readers who has made his position clear

(over and over) on capitalism, I would venture to say that the readers of The S.B. Current are by and large capitalists. I am glad that you, being in the pharmaceutical industry, are more interested in promoting cures for diseases than, as you say, making the big buck. I for one do not blame anyone who makes money in an honest way. I grew up in a "medical" family with mother, sister, and aunt being being nurses. There was then, high regard for the medical field, almost to the point of never questioning anything the doctor said. But as the "drug " industry got bigger and bigger with more and more power , things shifted. The Covid introduction brought on much controversy and discontent with both the medical profession and the drug industry, and the government who, in many situations, overstepped their bounds. I do know that people are doing more research for themselves and are less apt to believe everything that the "establishment" says. We obviously need people like you to keep on researching for the betterment of mankind but you cannot blame the common man for their current opinion of big pharma. They brought that on themselves. Especially listening to Bill Gates boasting on national television that of all his businesses, the one that made the most money was vaccinations.

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J. Livingston's avatar

The 1980’s brought many fundamental shifts in health care. Informed consent replaced the prior paternalism model. Direct to consumer dug marketing. Rise of third party insurance payments inserted a “stranger at the bedside.

The book The American Way Of Dying lead to more very expensive dying in the hospital, rather than dying at home. The medical malpractice crisis was in full bloom. Doctors came under the pressure to do something, do every thing or we will sue you.

Increasingly union bargained health care plans dragged the rest of the medical care industry along with it. Getting patients insured became the surrogate marker for “health care”.

A current bioethical issue today is futility of treatment, when is it too much?

When can medical professionals finally say we cannot do any more. Of course the bad fairy at the party is now seeing the decline in health care markers and no longer increasing benefits after these long decades of throwing more money at these very challenges.

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Thomas John's avatar

I agree with much of what you wrote. Big anything seems harder to manage - be it big pharma, government, whatever. But the part about Bill Gates is wrong/misleading. Gates himself has made no money personally from vaccines. There were some edited videos floating around years ago that made it sound that way - but do your own research and see if you find anything to change your mind.

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Monica Bond's avatar

Thanks Thomas John. I will do further research but what is known about Mr. Gates leads me to believe that he would not pass an opportunity to make money from anything. I do not find his nature to be that much of a giver rather than a huge receiver..

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

"Yes, Pharmaceutical companies are big business with the goal of making a profit. If you are surprised or annoyed by this, you might want to re-visit the principles of free-market capitalism and re-read the constitution."

There's nothing Christian, traditional, or moral about market liberalism, capitalism, and the constitution. These are all products of the enlightenement and have only brought about decay thanks to their secular and relativistic foundations. I sincerely hope that "conservatives" wake up and rebel againsy these modernist innovations in favor of a truly traditional, Christian, and moral beliefs, policies, and systems.

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Justin's avatar

How dare you go over the capitalistic free market enterprise that is the pharmaceutical industry? Your hidden socialist agenda to regulate and kneecap the pharmaceutical industry in America is disgusting. America is the greatest nation on earth with the greatest healthcare system. Do you think you could have that if you started regulating and investigating the pharmaceutical industry? President Reagan is spinning in his grave.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Justin, it is such a relief to have a columnist here tied with “socialist” rather than “fascist.”

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Jeff barton's avatar

The Amish suffer far less chronic illness and particularly autoimmune disease and near zero autism. The Amish also rarely receive vaccines or other benefits offered by the pharmaceutical industry or the greatest healthcare in the universe

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Justin's avatar

We all know the cause of autism is Tylenol during pregnancy and pfas.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

What's so bad about autism? It's not a death sentence...

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Jeff barton's avatar

I have two autistic cousins and they may be happier than I am. They also need full time care. I don't believe their parents would agree that it's not so bad. They live in a little monarchy of sorts and it works for them.

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Bill Russell's avatar

I agree, autism can be a doubled-edge sword of sorts. A lot of care required by parents and specialists that can optimize their abilities such as in the arts. There are amazing autistic kids performing on instruments such as the piano which I find spellbinding, and a rewarding experience for children possessing those gifts of unique talents. Checkout on YouTube a blind and autistic teen named Lucy playing the piano ... amazing!

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John Westwick's avatar

You're free to not participate in any aspect of the US health care system. With the exception of (mis-guided) vaccine mandates it's up to you. Have at it. Good luck, you'll need it.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Less is more when it comes to today’s version of health care. Aka: poly pharmacy. Backed up recently, by that Oregon study comparing those on the public health waiting list to those who were getting treated. Caused many ripple of surprise in the healthcare industrial complex.

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Bill Russell's avatar

You say, "America is the greatest nation on earth with the greatest healthcare system."

I say, "America WAS the greatest nation on earth with the greatest healthcare system."

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

Yes, death to capitalism. Long live medieval distributism and noblesse oblige!

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Justin's avatar

It's so hard to tell if that is sarcasm from you, being that you're a papist. Missed you.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

It's not sarcasm, though "Papist" isn't very accurate, "Beliver of the One True Faith is".

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Justin's avatar

It seems like Papist should have been capitalized. Believer in the one truth faith seems a very bold, if not arrogant statement though. Lots of people tend to die when statements like that are made.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

Christ founded thr Catholic Church, it's far from arrogant.

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J. Livingston's avatar

What criteria are you using to claim America has the greatest health care system? While it can excel in trauma care and applications of expensive technology, it fails badly in chronic condition care, like lifestyle conditions and over treatment of the worried well.

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Justin's avatar

If you don't think America is the greatest country in the world you can just get out. My criteria is that America is blessed by God and that the free market is giving us the best. Please go try the healthcare in Russia with Tucker Carlson if you don't think we are the best.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Go back and read for content then respond, Justin.

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Montecito93108's avatar

There are various studies posted on internet including outcomes of home schooled versus traditionally schooled children. Here’s a sample: Analysis of health outcomes in vaccinated and unvaccinated children: Developmental delays, asthma, ear infections and gastrointestinal disorders - PMC

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7268563/

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CarsAreBasic's avatar

Interesting....missed the item about growing up in Canada.......not the US.

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Montecito93108's avatar

I missed the part about Kamala being an anchor baby born to two non-citizens who knew next to nothing about the US. Having been raised by a highly educated mother who was a member of India’s highest caste, who took her daughters in Summers to India to be with family, I question how much young Kamala was immersed into American culture and tradition outside of progressive Berkeley, CA.

I look forward to consideration of a Constitutional Amendment that requires POTUS candidates to be third generation; and Congressional & Senate & SCOTUS Candidates second generation Americans. I listened to Ann Coulter’s pragmatic explanation for having American roots prior to eligibility for high level leadership and power positions. Kamala isn’t rooted.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Two internationally-raised US presidential candidates of late, did us few favors.

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