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Carolyn Aijian's avatar

We must continue to work towards new leadership. This current mess is due to philosophical insanity.

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Howard Walther's avatar

To Late for that Ms Aijian I suggest MOVING AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN PACK.

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Bill Clausen's avatar

So let's see, California has enough $$$ for a high speed rail (over $100 billion) but not enough for desal plants, the "high density" plan is playing out down in Pacific Palisades yet people up here think it's a good idea, those who DO understand focus on Newsom and Bass without realizing that they are the tip of the iceberg, (in other words, getting rid of them without also voting out or recalling their allies in the legislature is near-useless) and we don't have enough water up here. Too many building to burn, too much traffic for proper evacuation, not enough water...

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Howard Walther's avatar

Mr. Clausen it is much worse than a few Billion Gone. The Federal Government

pours the must money to one State CALI and where does all of it go?

https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-rely-the-most-on-federal-aid/

I will let you GUESS on where all that CALI FED-GOLD GOES.

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Thomas John's avatar

True - CA gets the majority of aid - but if you look at it per capita - we are one of the lowest in Fed aid per person. The highest per capita aid looks like the takers are Virginia, Kentucky, and Alaska..... All at about 3x what each person gets in CA.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/federal-aid-by-state?t

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J. Livingston's avatar

Alaska is a distortion claiming "federal aid" since the federal government is the very largest land owner in the entire state. Northern Virginia is essentially a government employee dense population extension of Wash DC. Not sure what your point is or what your criteria of "federal aid" is, when you assert these often claimed and equally debunked numbers.

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Thomas John's avatar

I added the source for you to debunk. I'm sure you'll find something wrong with it. I'm not going to write an essay - Much as Mr. Walther didn't but you didn't comment on his post.

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Howard Walther's avatar

Hello Mr. Thomas John at least you got my name correct WALTHER.

What, you do not like facts I provide about the utter CORRUPTION

and INCOMPETANCE in California and in Santa Barbara? Please review this>Jan 6th, Paid Informant, if this is true a very serious problem.

https://x.com/Real_RobN/status/1878494180856786946

I blew the Whistle on SB and its CORRUPTION would you like to SIT DOWN and look at some documents? I did not take one cent.

SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING and there is ALOT OF SOMETHINGS in Santa Barbara just as there is in LA CORRUPTION.

I leave you with the LA Commissioner Huizar DOJ/FBI RICO Indictment for you to read on City's Political Corruption. SOUND FAMILIAR?

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/new-indictment-rico-case-against-former-la-city-councilman-jose-huizar-adds-5

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Thomas John's avatar

Mr. Walther - On a higher level I don't challenge you on corruption and incompetence in Santa Barbara, California or really anywhere else in the US or the world. What I don't always agree with on are the details and/or your supporting materials. So perhaps I agree that things are not right - but I don't think we're in agreement on the level of said corruption and incompetence. I think where I differ with most folks on this forum is I think both sides, Red and Blue, are at fault.

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Pat Fish's avatar

Where to even begin?

This is one of the most lucid summations I have read putting the current apocalypse conflagration into perspective.

Point one: Yes we need to dredge Lake Cachuma immediately. It is obvious the amount of water we are being told it contains is far less than the stats, because it has silted up. That precious mud could be redistributed to revive land stripped of topsoil.

Then ALL reservoirs need to be filled and maintained. I live directly below one on the Mesa that has been empty for decades. It should provide gravity flow water to save any house in Alta Mesa but sits empty, like some in Los Angeles were found to be empty.

The facts about CA FairPlan are correct. It covers only structure loss due to fire. Home contents and liability require a second DIC policy, and together they are 4x + the cost of previous insurance from a private company that covered it all. As insurers pull out of the state these will become increasingly hard to get, which means even if you decide to move out of state and sell your property no civilian can buy it because they can't get a mortgage without insurance. Leaving people to sell to Vangard or Blackrock, which is of course the plan.

I completely agree with stopping the high density madness. The AUDs are being crammed into neighborhoods with no requirement to provide off-street parking. And people predictably react like rats in a cage. Back in the day there was a moratorium on building because the water supply could not support it. Until the smelt is no longer the priority and water is redirected to support farmers and cities this will never be solved. But the farmer who diverts more water for his almonds than any other users (almonds to be shipped to China) needs to be stopped, and carrot growers in Cuyama who devastate the aquifer. THIS is the sort of "land management" we look to Government to arrange, but it seems like the whole system is bent.

And last, the phrase "Keep your running shoes on at all times." I was raised by Russian adoptive family, many of whom survived pogroms. And it was drilled into me that the people who survived when they had to run were the ones with sensible shoes.

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Bill Russell's avatar

Develop football player running legs along with the correct shoes to wear. When it comes to fires, do your own preparations. Get a plastic water storage tank, pump, fire hose and when a threat of a fire comes, soak everything. And remove the leaves in your neighbor's yard that's about three feet deep.

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Peter Scott's avatar

BR; plastic water tank? Any decent home fire fighting system would require a (fireproof) galvanized steel tank. The pump would be useless without a generator, as the power is typically down durning fire events.

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Bill Russell's avatar

Ya, polypropylene tanks, also known as PP tanks. Keep the tank away from flammables. A do-it-yourself tank using PP is fine, trust me. Yes, a pump and generator (I prefer Honda generators). Funny though, each fire I've been through the power remained on, but that was years ago. Tanks can be buried or half submerged. Keep the tank away from any fuel that can burn.

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Montecito93108's avatar

Good point as we listen to politicians hourly LIE: “We’re here to help, you’re not alone.” Haha to their meaningless sound bites. Neighbors maintaining their properties makes a difference; connect, communicate. High quality fire personnel matter! Shout Outs to MFD: Montecito Fire Dept offers free annual property inspections that increase awareness and action. Battery operated chain saws make for a great gift. How I wish I had money to remove towering combustible Eucalyptus trees with shallow roots.

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Barbara Keating's avatar

Beautifully expresses the frustration, fears and anger felt due to the bungling and polarization of/by our state's Democrat pols. Has Newsom even inspected the holocaust in LA? Brush never has been burned. It remains tinder material for future fires.

Bass is an incompetent, woke DA who cares more for illegal aliens' welfare than the taxpaying public. Both should resign or be recalled ASAP. The Thomas Fire was a grim portent of future lives and property that will be lost if Californians keep electing Democrats who are political hacks first.

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Elizabeth Perlin's avatar

Good points and interesting article. However, the Thomas Fire was in 2017 and following debris flow was early 2018.

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Montecito93108's avatar

Time flies too with Fire winds. Were the huge losses of the Thomas Fire & 1/9 Debris Flow already 7years ago? What we know is not much has changed since 2008 Tea Fire, when hundreds Westmont College students were jammed into gymnasium with their lives saved by the grace of God, or sheer luck.

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Howard Walther's avatar

I read this article by Ms. Denice Spangler Adams "By The Fire"

and suggest a new Title "FIRE EVERYONE"

As the saying goes the "Rotten Apple Does Not Fall Far from the Rotten Apple Tree"

As I stated here many times people will only act, just maybe, when it effects them.

The FBI and US Military are all around the LA Fires so what is really going down?

https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1878567764320718856

Did this happen in Santa Barbara CA long ago with Fires and Mudslides?

Incompetent and Corrupt Leaders abound, time to move out of CALI folks.

Corruption Destroys EVERYTHING.

Howard Walther, member of a Military Family

PS1- Trump Warned Newsom but was IGNORED>

https://x.com/Chicago1Ray/status/1878625467785498772

PS2 - CALI and Gov Newsom "Slash & Burn"

https://x.com/Chicago1Ray/status/1878787631242486104

PS3 - Shift in LA Fires ... God Help "We the LA People" "Very Worrisome for Community"

https://x.com/i/events/1876851578461696000

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Thomas John's avatar

The "military" was the California National Guard that was brought in to protect homes from looting.

And despite that one X posting with Trump talking about CA reservoir levels - you can check those live here. Most seem at or above historical levels - even the SoCal ones. https://cdec.water.ca.gov/resapp/RescondMain

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Montecito93108's avatar

TJohn: Do you agree CA needs more reservoirs, water storage capacity? Voters think we do: we approved Prop 1 for $2.7B to increase storage. Current capacity is for 10M people (CA 1950 population), not for 38M. Yep, existing reservoirs are full

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Thomas John's avatar

I'm all for wiser increased water storage. From what I've read the money for Prop 1 was been mired in permitting, etc. But I also think that smaller-scale water storage for homes/fire/business is different from the huge projects likely to be funded by Prop. 1. I'm mixed on water use for Ag. Yes, we have to eat. But in CA 80% of water goes to Ag, which only generates 3 or 4% of our GDP. I guess in short I'm way more supportive of small-scale reservoirs to help and protect cities - I'm not a huge fan on spending tons so a handful of almond farmers can supply the majority of the world's almond demand

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LT's avatar

This series of fires will undoubtedly go down as the most costly in terms of loss property and perhaps loss of life. Did it have to be so? Seems like a number of failures constitute willful negligence? Fire hydrants non operational, drained water reservoirs, inadequate backup of personnel and equipment, record amounts of fuel allowed to become overgrown, the Mayor out of town , the list goes on. Who will be held responsible, the mayor, fire chief? Again, there needs to be calls for congressional hearings into errors and omissions which led to this 911 size disaster.

As for Karen Bass, she MUST resign immediately! Not only is she incompetent, but has a long history of being a communist sympathizer and enabler of the Castro regime. Time for her to go!

The lasting effects of this disaster will be enormous and be with us for years. Insurance as we know it, will never be the same not only effecting insurance rates but mortgage rates and our state bond ratings as well and for decades to come!

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Michael Schaumburg's avatar

Thank you for writing. The leadership and decisions revealed by recent tragic LA fires is not limited to California, but Oregon as well (and no doubt other areas). The failed ideology of the leadership has slowly overbalanced common sense and science, especially in recurring fire disasters. Preparing for a warmer climate is necessary and required, especially with fires, hurricanes and rains.The same strong winds can create blow torch results. Overgrown scrub fuels fires. Safe egress is mandatory to save lives and property. Forbidding gas stoves and cars is a failed ideology blind to reality. It's a huge indicator when insurance companies won't write fire policies. This is a great question for the city and BOS.

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Poornima Wagh's avatar

I'm going to get a lot of pushback for saying this, but people deserve the government they get. You cannot depend on your so called government. We are the government. If we fail to be proactive, what you then get is what you're seeing in California at all levels of government, which is corruption and blatant mismanagement of resources.....

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Aimee Smith's avatar

Poornima Waugh has deceived people in the medical freedom movement. She claimed to have two PhDs, (even so conveniently, one in virology and one in epidemiology), at a local meeting but when asked to provide evidence of those degrees (something easier to verify than other types of claims about background experience), she could not. She managed to get an appearance on Dr. Lee Merritt's show where she again claimed to have two PhD's. A blogger contacted the school she claimed to have attended and he reports they have no record of anyone by her name ever attending. She is entitled to her opinion and to speak, but be ware of someone who is willing to be dishonest. I believe we have a duty to eachother to watch out for dishonesty when it is verifiable and beyond speculative concern. https://weehingthong.org/2022/09/09/is-poornima-wagh-a-fraud/ https://weehingthong.org/2022/09/09/is-poornima-wagh-a-fraud/ I do not claim to know why she does this and I wish her the best if it is some sort of emotional or mental health issue, but we have a duty to protect integrity and stand up for the truth, so that is why I am sharing this experience here. At some point, I should write up my experiences with her and others in the "viruses don't exist" strand of the medical freedom movement and my thoughts on the role of intelligence services in manipulating our grassroots movements. Meanwhile, I will just remind you of Christ's wise teaching, "by their fruits, you shall know them."

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L. Angel's avatar

Thank you for pointing this out. I have seen her genocide apologist comments, and now here she appears to be saying Californians 'deserve' the fire disaster and hardships. Between the two and now reading this here from you, I can only imagine she is not a legit American and is really a spy.

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L. Angel's avatar

Am I understanding you correctly...You think all the fire victims in LA "deserve" what is happening to them as all our money is being sent to Israel and Ukraine? Please clarify what sounds to be a really cruel stance.

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Pearl Gate's avatar

All if this is true. AND there are MANY clear satellite and drone photos and videos of directed energy weaponry and production of particles in one region such as Nevada and then promulgated over to the regions where beams (caught by drone and satellite) were used to ignite the fires. One series of aerial photos shows combustion in three separate sites spontaneously. Other videos by people on the ground show arsonists —one who looks like he is wearing “middle Eastern” length coverage of the mid section -chest to above knees. The question is, to what degree is the incompetence of government actually sabotage and collusion with these nefarious activities that have been absent from critical thinking which should be part of news coverage? Arson is an act of war and it appears that the citizens have no knowledge that they are in a war. Do the government so called leaders know?

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Thomas John's avatar

I'd love to see these videos. Can you give us a web link?

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Pearl Gate's avatar

It’s not climate change, Virginia! It’s weather manipulation! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dgRxhhQnKVo

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Pearl Gate's avatar

Yes, arson. AND the arson narrative, while true, also turns our attention away from the fact of directed energy weapons involved in promulgation of these fires.

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Robert Johnson's avatar

Ms. Pearl Gate: Thanks for the entertaining detour into MTG-esque science fiction. But might I posit that even if there were "nefarious activities" such as "directed energy weaponry and... particle beams... used to ignite the fires" (which there are not) you may want to direct your conspiracy theories away from the "incompetent government" of the current administration and possibly toward the richest man in the world who has placed over 4,000 of the some 8,700 satellites presently in orbit, and his puppet President-elect who controls the House, Senate and Supreme Court. "Deep State"?--I think you're on to something!

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Pearl Gate's avatar

Science fiction eh? Well… we can choose to be ignorant about the kinds of tech that is available and employed against US and global citizens or we can delve into the claims to see if they might be plausible .

Further, maybe tech in the sky is needed to counter some of this nefarious tech that is not so difficult to search out? Try “directed energy weapon” for starters. Try maybe searching satellite images from credible sources at the time of the fires? Lahaina had satellite flying above at the exact time of combustion. This proverbial rabbit hole is not a difficult one to ferret out. Except that it’s difficult to accept that such powerful weaponry may be aimed at innocent people in the USA.

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Montecito93108's avatar

Excellent post! I question when will CA citizens demand Intelligence Divisions be funded in police stations and sheriff headquarters to track dangers. New York City has a 50+ person Intell Unit — with high level security clearances — to track patterns, to identify and communicate dangers to enforcers, policy makers, and others.

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J. Livingston's avatar

WSJ this morning has two excellent opinion (and fact-supported) pieces on their op ed page. Beg, borrow or go to the lIbrary to read them if you can.

One by Calif Rep Tom McClintock "Bad Policy Served as Kindling for California Wildfires". The other by the always impressive Allysia Finley writer of Life Science, "How the Left Turned California in Paradise Lost".

Both put their names on facts as well as their opinions in these timely articles. Putting the fires out remains job one. Preventing fires in the future and managing known risks needs to be put back as number one state policy as well. Yes, we can multi-task and do both right now, since we now have historical fact and context necessary to re-evaluate the past few decades of leftist agenda "green" policy decisions. Regardless of the left's current intense pressure to re-write themselves as blameless victims one more time, including our newly minted Senator Adam Schiff.

Which policy expenditures served us better - spending money to harden the current electrical grid or subsidizing failed alternate energy sources?

Facts to compare both are now part of the necessary dialogue going forward. Facts on the ground in this case prove that no, we cannot do both at the same time because one theoretical option has ultimately proven useless in real time, and one option has proven to be far more pragmatic for the greater overall good.

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Howard Walther's avatar

Mr Livingston I presume, THE THREATS are the So-Called-Leaders of CALI ....

Run as if your life depends on it and in fact it does as LA LEADERS have yet

AGAIN, shown us.

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CarsAreBasic's avatar

Good article. Population, emergencies, and streets are all interrelated.

It really brings into question what has been happening in Sacramento for 4 decades.

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Montecito93108's avatar

It's a crisis: estimated 6000 homes, 1000 business. CA leadership has proven AGAIN it fails. Complex, complicated systems require competent, high executive caliber leaders. Bet Angelenos now wish they voted Rick Caruso for Mayor; and to recall Newsom. Maybe Caruso, or a high level exec like him will run for Governor to reset CA; or Team Trump will step in. 🤞 Where does all the debris go? Cleanup could take months. We’re helpless beyond demanding change, actively supporting replacement leadership, informing neighbors of truths, and helping those who have — with cause — lost hope when their communities were destroyed. Progressive/Complicit Santa Barbara is doomed unless and until there’s a major leadership change to one focused on PUBLIC SAFETY and water.

Who pays for failure? We do. CalMatters reports that when private insurers halted renewals: “Having all this risk transferred to the CA FAIR Plan doesn’t get insurers off the hook if they’re still writing in the California market,” because insurers in CA are on the hook to pay into the plan when it can’t cover all its claims. Estimate: $150 Billion

“An estimated 1 in 5 homes in the upscale Palisades neighborhood were covered by CA FAIR Plan.”

“… the FAIR Plan’s number of homeowner policies grew to more than 451,000 as of September 2024, an increase of 123% over the past three years.”

“State Farm decided not to renew tens of thousands of policies, including about 1,600 in Pacific Palisades. As of September, there were 1,430 residential FAIR Plan policies in the enclave’s 90272 ZIP code, an 85% increase from the previous year, according to the plan’s latest data.” In neighboring Santa Monica, zip 90402, a 128% increase.

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Mike's avatar

Denise- Thank you for laying out some of the issues that are on everyone's mind.

When was the last time you saw a fire truck crew open up a hydrant on your street to test the readiness? What is the condition of our infrastructure? Should our Environmental Studies majors "leaders" stop wringing their hands over gas appliances and start planning to underground some of the power lines that crisscross our city? Asking for a friend.

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Montecito93108's avatar

Mike- great questions requiring official answers. Send to City and County.

I know that years ago I was one of two attending a public hearing to speak in favor of implementing MFD’s paid $300K professionally prepared back-burning report. The two of us were out numbered successfully by a hundred plus environmentalists who intimidated ‘it’s a small town, we need to be liked’ committee members who then voted against proceeding with the back burning plan. Their argument: “Back burning creates toxic smoke” for a day. Next, we suffered the prolonged 2017 Thomas Fire, wore N95 masks for two or three weeks, and in the later 1/9 debris flow, too many lives of valued community members, beloved friends were lost!

Those who choose to get involved are too few because most citizens “go along to get along”. Where’s their civic duty participation? Silence is safe until impacted.

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L. Angel's avatar

Not one mention in the article of all our money and resources being sent to Ukraine and Israel for genocide while our country burns. How can you address this topic and not mention the obvious elephant in the room. Do better.

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Montecito93108's avatar

LA Fires Could Drastically Drive Up Insurance Premiums — And Test California’s New Market Rules

https://www.noozhawk.com/la-fires-could-drastically-drive-up-insurance-premiums-and-test-californias-new-market-rules/

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