Re the absurd attempted witch burning of RFK Jr. by the Democrats: these Democrats are the same ones who are okay with heroin and fentanyl users and don't want the border guarded against the invasion of drug cartels. So of course they think children should be shot up with whatever the pharmaceutical companies can make a profit from. But God forbid anyone want to drive a gas powered car or support nuclear energy, because we need to keep this planet green and clean so the next generation can be shot up with more drugs!
I suggest you all look up Jeff Childers ( Coffee and Covid on Substack ) today for a cogent analysis of the slaughter of the Ukrainian woman by the multiply released criminal. We need to understand why this guy was even on the streets. Our “progressive” justice system is an abject failure, and produced this tragedy.
We need a consult from Bukele, President of El Salvador, on how to turn things around. However the answer actually will come in a religious revival in the hearts and minds of Americans. Don’t look for suggestions of that type in the MSM or our local news sources .
Responding to the horrific, savage and senseless murder of a young Ukrainian woman on a Charlotte rail line, by an all too familiar perpetrator. The assailant was a career criminal who had multiple criminal convictions, known to be mentally unstable and was allowed to roam our streets. What is going on with our black youth? Why is law enforcement and the judiciary allowing these psychopaths to continue to commit these crimes as if it is some twisted DEI project? Something is terribly wrong, in that black youth is targeting whites at an alarming rate and the media is having a news blackout, why? Why do politicians continue to revert to “root causes” in what should be a case study in racially targeted crimes? Why is it black youth which comprises about 6% of our population, are disproportionately committing violent and property crimes at alarming rates?
We can all imagine the outrage, demonstrations, go fund me, and yes, violent “smash n grabs” if the roles would have been reversed!
Yes, the Trump administration is completely justified in sending in the National Guard in order to quell the murderous rampage which is occurring in Chicago and other predominantly black run cities.
I’d make a lousy judge. I wouldn’t send that killer to prison so he could sit around playing cards for 10 years of appeals - I’d have a bailiff stab him in the neck in the courtroom. An eye-for-an eye - where’s the problem?
The millions of people who died from Covid would not say it was a joke. The tens of millions who lost close ones to Covid would not say it is a joke.
The absolute selfishness in your writing is embarrassing. I bet you think you were responsible for everything that you accomplished. Pfft. You were not. Society helped you. Sure, you may have done well in society, but without society, you would be dead and have accomplished nothing. Empathy is not a bad thing.
Still looking for how many died and were harmed from the billions of Covid Injections™. Science has not been settled on either set of numbers. Nor can it be since every single aspect of the 2020 election year mass Covid™ hysteria has been tainted beyond all utility. You instead are sending up straw dogs I assume for political gain. Try another channel.
DB: Wake up to the corruption of BigPharm money distorting our entire public health policies - they do hand this money out even-handedly to anyone who will take it and then later play a role in the creation of US health care policy.
Have you been living in a cave these past few years. Follow the money from Big Pharm into the media, to the previously neutral medical profession publications, the medical textbooks, the teaching positions, the insurance companies and drilling right down to the previously sacred doctor patient relationship ....first, do no harm.
Can you really claim you have never even heard about this ongoing Big Pharm corruption? Seriously? This is not wacko, fringe conspiracy stuff. And the serious decline in our entire health care delivery system and outcomes proves it.
Trace it all back to Upjohn's Tagamet going directly to consumers to sell its product which created demand for a medical product from the consumers to the doctor, instead of drug recommendations going the other way around. The rest is history. Where have you been?
Money is made selling to the worried well, and Big Pharm is poised with direct marketing to keep you very, very worried .
You seem so hell bent on big pharma and donations to political parties that you use it to define every argument you are in.
Let me address your point and Jeff Barton's at the same time. It's ok, you guys want to bash the impact that science has had. You, and perhaps him, believe that big pharma is all 'fake.'
Try taking some time, to read, and learn. Want to know one of the easiest things to read and learn from? The US census. Go read ANY page from the 1900 census. You can see the questions asked. One was, if you are a female, how many children have you given birth to? The next question after it is, "How many are still alive?" In the 1900s, a woman would have 6 kids to have 4 make it to at least 30. Those two questions are no longer asked on the census. This is where understanding causation matters. They no longer ask that question because science gave us medicines so that children did not die. It gave us VACCINES.
Now, if you want to argue that Big Pharma is donating tons of money to politicians, well, no duh, so are the people who are anti-pharma, and definitely not as much, but the problem is not that Big Pharma is giving money, it is the political system that allows it.
Thanks for trotting out all the hoary Big Pharm justifications. Nothing new here except you failed in insert "life-saving" into every other touted drug defense.
Trust me, a lot of us have been tracking this industry for a very long time. I go back to the 1980's and budding megalomaniac Fauci and his HIV high-jacking. Then in the 1990's, the 40 year long HRT drug scandal was finally exposed the dark machinations of the drug industry in full flower, when those drugs were finally tested in the 1990s' and found to actually be causing all the harm to women they claimed they were preventing.
There is little Big Pharm can be proud of today. We do fine in the US in trauma care, but those are one-time incidents and we do remain the world' leader in that part of health care delivery. We have success stories for this segment of health care right here on this forum. However, we failed badly over-treating the worried-well for Big Pharm fun and profit.
Learn the difference before you knee-jerk your defense of Big Pharm. Big Pharm became more obsessed with tweaking formulas to keep them from going off patent, and tweaking competitor's block buster "wellness drugs" to grab their fair share of the same essential claims and formula.
All the while America got fatter and unhealthier and "disease parameters" kept dropping to include more and more into the "worried well" categories, hoping to be saved by a Big Pharm pill. You have done a splendid job marketing your drugs. Too bad their stats do not comport with their promises.
Science (mainly observational studies) gave us better nutrition, better sanitation and elimination of flilthy child birth practices. Don't even bother resting on these now centuries old basic health care breakthroughs and claim this was because of Big Pharm.
Your final "covid" insult however was instantly changing that centuries old definition of "VACCINES" to what your stupid, experimental covid injection was purported to do. But did not. The betrayal of the public runs both profound and deep with that dirty little move.
You need to chill out and wait for the upcoming reports on "autism" as finally much closer looks are being taken of the past few years of Big Pharm marketing hype, touted throughits controlled media lackies, but not "science".
Are you running interference up front, because you know what is in this upcoming report?
David, a number of deaths reported as from Covid were not, in fact, from Covid. Hospitals mis-reported deaths as from Covid in order to get more money.
Yes, hospitals across the world misrepresented COVID, each was part of the play and were paid handsomely…here in the US, hospitals were rewarded with $9k for each patient identified to have COVID (using false positives via the PCR test) and $39k for each patient put on a ventilator (and more than 70% put on vents died)…COVID is a bioweapon & the clot shots are the real killers…
PS, USA led the world in COVID cases — due to widespread testing…
That's my understanding from what I've read, Michael. I'd like to be wrong, quite honestly. I hate having my trust in our medical establishment destroyed the way it has been through Fauci and the handling of Covid.
My trust in the medical profession has not changed. I think they do the best they can with the facts they have. When the facts change, they change. My point is Covid vaccines worked. It is true that some people who are not vaccinated don’t get the virus. That does not mean that none of us should get vaccinated. I advise people to listen to their doctors. Many of us are concerned that listening to Bobby Kennedy is going to bring back viruses that had been eliminated.
The "covid vaccines" did not work, Micheal. And they caused a huge amount of harm. Drop the lies. There are too many competing and confounding facts today to even begin to support your lie. It was an experimental drug delivery system, and it failed its mass, unregulated human experimentation test - Grade F-
So, you are suggesting there is a worldwide conspiracy involving the whole world’s medical profession and hospitals. And my doctor, and probably your doctor, were part of it. Wow! You are a genius.
I hope you own stock in aluminium companies. The tinfoil you wear must be expensive.
The drug delivery system, MRNA has been around since the 1960s.
There are no competing facts. Facts are facts. Did you fail English? There are opinions that are competing with facts. Michael and myself are using facts, you are using opinions. Your opinion is that it was a failure. Fine, you are entitled to your opinion, but calling it a fact, well, that is comical.
The more I think about this, the more I think you did not do well in English. You keep using cliches without knowing what it even means. These vaccines were regulated. The drug delivery system has been around for ~60 years. Hmm. You know, FACTS.
David, and are you implying that one *mis*-reported death is ok, but two is not? I'm involved with Sepsis awareness and Sepsis deaths during that time were often misreported as Covid. I,m not doing this Substack for self-promotion but for public-awareness of how deadly Sepsis is. https://pollysnewsletter.substack.com/p/september-is-sepsis-awareness-month
You are arguing over the number. If it were 10 people who died, would that be acceptable for you? What about 1mm, what about 10mm, what about 100mm, what about 1bn? What number will it take for you to say, Covid was real? In my eyes, from reading your writings, NO number would prove it. That is kinda scary.
I didn't say that, David. When you're willing to have an open discussion I'd enjoy that. There are no other online political sites in SB where we can do that. Let's honor it here with civility.
Woof, barks the straw dog tag team - MC + DB. You get no political mileage trying to re-write Covid™. Shall we assume RFKJr is over the target right now?
There was never a serious attempt to determine deaths from covid only deaths with covid determined by pcr test with high rate of false positives. Explain why there were no deaths from the flu? Because everything was labeled a death from covid to raise hysteria with fools like you. Can you explain why the case rate and fatality rate increased after introduction of the mrna poison injection? People who still burp up this nonsense about the covid propaganda are truly clueless. You are right about not taking credit for accomplishments but you are wrong about who gets the credit. It is God not society to whom we owe everything including natural immunity from covid
There is no such thing as natural immunity for ANYTHING in the manner in which you describe. But then again, science boggles your mind, but you are ok with using a device that was created by science. Hmm.
People who trivialize the death of others are the clueless, selfish, and ignorant people.
Why are you so hyper-defensive? Nobody's telling you not to get vaccinated or continuing to get vaccinated. As they mentioned previously, if you spend a little time looking at some of the data that they've now had the opportunity to collect. I think your perspective would be a little bit different. It would have to be if you read it objectively. Again, I don't care how many times you get vaccinated or how many layers of mask you wear.
Your earlier reference to all the deaths from Covid is really a flag that you haven't really layered down the data. Hospitals were paid handsomely to report a death as being from Covid, which includes those dying from gunshot wounds, complications from debilitating chronic disease diseases in the elderly.
Too quick recommendations. One is go to YouTube and look at Dr. John Campbell. A Brit who was a strong proponent of vaccinations until the data manifested itself. The other recommendation is to go to the website of Steve Kirsh...Substack, etc., big time data from countries around the world. He has had a long standing invite to pay $1 million to the charity of choice from some body from the CDC or the NIH, etc to debate him live on the topic. Zero takers. Zero.
The idea is not to change your mind, but perhaps expose you to data that you apparently have not been exposed. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting what you're posting. Again that data is from governments and health agencies from around the world, not speculation from a politician, etc..
Trial by anecdote: a family member went to Cottage Urgent Care for an upper respiratory infection a year ago.
Was tested for "covid" which was negative and was handed a generic instruction sheet for palliative care - except the instruction sheet was still labeled for "covid", which the "test" indicated he did not have.
So now "flu" and "covid" were being handled interchangeably, and money was saved using these left-over "covid" instruction sheets for this year's flu season.
Medical progress: By late 2023, "covid" palliative care instruction sheets suddenly became interchangeable with the old fashion flu. Heads are scratching.
Yes, the mystery about the 100% disappearance of the 'flu" during the height of the 2020/21 election year "covid mass hysteria" remains unsolved .
More than likely they died from the yab or multiple yabs as covid is the flu and yes the compromised were at risk of flu induced sickness but remember the flu deaths were non existent while covid deaths spiked. Wake up because that whole experiment is exactly that an experiment on society . So it is kind of funny how people still defend covid like it’s real.. It’s the flu…
How many shots did you take? I’m positive you jabed up by you commentary
Me not one. Had covid twice. Still alive n kickin unlike many in our town that took that jab and have cancer stage 4 or simply dropped dead suddenly like so many athletes and pilots alike
Florida showed us that taking the appropriate med within three days of getting COVID was just as effective as taking the shot and with no side effects from the shot as I did. Children rarely had any significant effects from COVID so shutting schools was not done in Florida.
psssst....FL population is significantly older....pssst....pesky facts again. Hopefully, this far into the ongoing conversation you have stopped and looked up the fact that hospitals were ringing the register by calling all deaths Covid… And coincidentally other deaths that were attributable to flus, etc. dropped exponentially. Never let the facts get in your way David...
And yet, you are proving that you can not read nor interpret data. You seem so hell bent on your belief that no matter what data is presented you will have some justification for your belief. Try saying the hardest words for a human. You are wrong.
You're saying hospitals got "paid" more by calling something a covid death? When do hospitals get paid anything per death? I thought they got paid 20% or something percent more for treating COVID-19 patients, but that didn't rely on anyone dying.
You still think funny numbers are real numbers, DB. And that somehow splitting hairs on dubious data points at this point matters. It doesn't. Covid was compromised from day one. (See the Johns Hopkins CDC Morbidity Reports spread sheet analysis of that showed no excess deaths from all causes for year one of "covid".) You are rightfully on the defensive now that the multi-year data is rolling in. Don't ever do this again.
Kennedy is an imperfect messenger with a very important message. Something is amiss with the trajectory of our nation’s health(not to mention education) and we should be serious to analyze all possible contributors to our decline. I do not want an emergency authorization vaccine jabbed into our youth at this time and place. So much has changed, the virus, the population, our knowledge and alternative treatments for the virus. Unfortunately Secretary Kennedys past statements, career and personal history obfuscates the message.
Mr Kennedy has been victim of a hysteria press far more than he has made any misstatements. I hope you keep listening to him when he is confronted with the many media myths about him. Game plan - what we are doing in "health care" is too expensive and not working. Be open to stop doing a lot of it, and start doing something else. Health care is a duty; not a right. Each person has to start with themselves first. Be well and thrive.
fun article to read with lots of whimsical truths, but wrong on Axis of Evil…What if China, Russia, and others are coordinating w/ POTUS to eliminate the NWO?
All countries have been captured by the evil Cabal over the past century, it’s a deeply rooted cancer that has enveloped the World, BUT, Team Trump is halting their NWO plans…
Too many countries deferred to the US NIH/CDC for guidance. Few had the resources to run the massive "health industry" scam like the US, where dollars spent became a misguided surrogate for facts, ethics and competence .
Yes, particularly hard hit with the mass disillusion were the “Five Eyes" (FVEY) countries, the intelligence alliance consisting of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, & the United States (+++ alliances)…mostly, max profits drawn from countries with government control, capital, and mass media influence was a big megaphone…WHO led the global psyop…
The UK Wellcome Trust is the CDC equivalent in England - another agency funded by British Big Pharm.
Don't forget the faulty transmission modeling done by the Imperial College of Medicine in London, which set the whole "covid™" thing on fire until someone finally asked how had they handled their data to reach their conclusion ...what was it, one out of ten would die from "covid" ....???? Turned out their hasty "conclusions" were classic junk in, junk out. But the flames had already spread - by whom and why?
Then we also learn the head of the Imperial College was shacking up with a director of AVAAZ and the two were breaking all their own UK draconian "quarantine rules". AVAAZ is a global "click-tavist" social media "social justice" operation, providing an instant network for overnight global communications .
One more NGO with shady funding. It will be fun when all these very, very early 2020 "covid" loose ends start coming together.
What were Yahoo News, AVAAZ and Imperial College of Medicine doing in concert in very early 2020 as the first bellwethers for - the Year of Covid™ when the world suddenly appeared to go mad. So much we still don't know, but gut check thinks there was close to a "vast conspiracy" all coming together, in its own way, to set the world on fire and make some massive profits on the side.
OrangemanBad seemed also to be a common denominator among these disparate forces .Questions, so many questions. Keep digging Bobby, we have your back.
I hope that you don't end up dying in a Covid ward. Or see your grandkids catching measles, or perhaps, if you move to Florida, polio. Vaccine mandates are one of the best public health measures in existence, only fools who don't understand epidemiology argue otherwise.
My two MAGA friends were way ahead of everyone. Neither got the shots. They both got COVID. He was seriously sick for a week or so. She was in intensive care and almost died. She lost her sense of smell and never got it back. They are nice people, and I feel sorry for them.
"Covid™" was never more than a 98.95% recovery flu. Most likely your poor friend who went to the hospital got over treated for "oxygen saturation" numbers used as fake surrogate for "covid" and was put on a ventilator. Those are the only common denominator for "covid" extremis. I feel sorry for them too.
Yes, flu seasons have come and gone for decades that leave people in bed for a week. This is nothing unique to "covid". In the 150's our entire highs school was shut down for a week because so many kids were out with the "Asian Flu". You you still think you live in a sterile bubble? Then there was the "Hong Kong Flu" and others every few years. Be prepared to not panic next time .And be very wary when the powers that be **censor*** every and all flu palliative recommendations, like they did with this one.
Anyone in health care knows there are some years, where everyone has the same story to tell - "I was so sick with the flu I was in bed for a week". Are you very young and did not know this?
Re the absurd attempted witch burning of RFK Jr. by the Democrats: these Democrats are the same ones who are okay with heroin and fentanyl users and don't want the border guarded against the invasion of drug cartels. So of course they think children should be shot up with whatever the pharmaceutical companies can make a profit from. But God forbid anyone want to drive a gas powered car or support nuclear energy, because we need to keep this planet green and clean so the next generation can be shot up with more drugs!
I suggest you all look up Jeff Childers ( Coffee and Covid on Substack ) today for a cogent analysis of the slaughter of the Ukrainian woman by the multiply released criminal. We need to understand why this guy was even on the streets. Our “progressive” justice system is an abject failure, and produced this tragedy.
We need a consult from Bukele, President of El Salvador, on how to turn things around. However the answer actually will come in a religious revival in the hearts and minds of Americans. Don’t look for suggestions of that type in the MSM or our local news sources .
Bukele had it easy, he just shipped his El Salvador criminals to the US, via Biden's open border policies.
look up the video of his prison which is the largest in Central America
he transformed El Salvador from murder capital to safest country
we have sent some of our criminals to El Salvador under DJT
Right, and then we starting shipping ours back to their home country.
https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/enigmatic-tuesday-september-9-2025?r=8sx0b&utm_medium=ios
Here is the link to Childers comment today
I read or listen daily to Coffee and Covid, along with the Current
Responding to the horrific, savage and senseless murder of a young Ukrainian woman on a Charlotte rail line, by an all too familiar perpetrator. The assailant was a career criminal who had multiple criminal convictions, known to be mentally unstable and was allowed to roam our streets. What is going on with our black youth? Why is law enforcement and the judiciary allowing these psychopaths to continue to commit these crimes as if it is some twisted DEI project? Something is terribly wrong, in that black youth is targeting whites at an alarming rate and the media is having a news blackout, why? Why do politicians continue to revert to “root causes” in what should be a case study in racially targeted crimes? Why is it black youth which comprises about 6% of our population, are disproportionately committing violent and property crimes at alarming rates?
We can all imagine the outrage, demonstrations, go fund me, and yes, violent “smash n grabs” if the roles would have been reversed!
Yes, the Trump administration is completely justified in sending in the National Guard in order to quell the murderous rampage which is occurring in Chicago and other predominantly black run cities.
Enough is enough.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnns-brian-stelter-says-pro-trump-activists-seized-charlotte-stabbing-rips-baldly-racist-comments.amp
I’d make a lousy judge. I wouldn’t send that killer to prison so he could sit around playing cards for 10 years of appeals - I’d have a bailiff stab him in the neck in the courtroom. An eye-for-an eye - where’s the problem?
The millions of people who died from Covid would not say it was a joke. The tens of millions who lost close ones to Covid would not say it is a joke.
The absolute selfishness in your writing is embarrassing. I bet you think you were responsible for everything that you accomplished. Pfft. You were not. Society helped you. Sure, you may have done well in society, but without society, you would be dead and have accomplished nothing. Empathy is not a bad thing.
Prove it DB: Millions.... "died from Covid™"?
Still looking for how many died and were harmed from the billions of Covid Injections™. Science has not been settled on either set of numbers. Nor can it be since every single aspect of the 2020 election year mass Covid™ hysteria has been tainted beyond all utility. You instead are sending up straw dogs I assume for political gain. Try another channel.
No. I don't care what political party handles diseases. Why do you?
Know your players, DB. Big Pharm hands out political funding to anyone who takes it: https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?code=H04&cycle=All&ind=H04&recipdetail=H&sortorder=U
DB: Wake up to the corruption of BigPharm money distorting our entire public health policies - they do hand this money out even-handedly to anyone who will take it and then later play a role in the creation of US health care policy.
Have you been living in a cave these past few years. Follow the money from Big Pharm into the media, to the previously neutral medical profession publications, the medical textbooks, the teaching positions, the insurance companies and drilling right down to the previously sacred doctor patient relationship ....first, do no harm.
Can you really claim you have never even heard about this ongoing Big Pharm corruption? Seriously? This is not wacko, fringe conspiracy stuff. And the serious decline in our entire health care delivery system and outcomes proves it.
Trace it all back to Upjohn's Tagamet going directly to consumers to sell its product which created demand for a medical product from the consumers to the doctor, instead of drug recommendations going the other way around. The rest is history. Where have you been?
Money is made selling to the worried well, and Big Pharm is poised with direct marketing to keep you very, very worried .
Please understand causation vs. correlation.
You seem so hell bent on big pharma and donations to political parties that you use it to define every argument you are in.
Let me address your point and Jeff Barton's at the same time. It's ok, you guys want to bash the impact that science has had. You, and perhaps him, believe that big pharma is all 'fake.'
Try taking some time, to read, and learn. Want to know one of the easiest things to read and learn from? The US census. Go read ANY page from the 1900 census. You can see the questions asked. One was, if you are a female, how many children have you given birth to? The next question after it is, "How many are still alive?" In the 1900s, a woman would have 6 kids to have 4 make it to at least 30. Those two questions are no longer asked on the census. This is where understanding causation matters. They no longer ask that question because science gave us medicines so that children did not die. It gave us VACCINES.
Now, if you want to argue that Big Pharma is donating tons of money to politicians, well, no duh, so are the people who are anti-pharma, and definitely not as much, but the problem is not that Big Pharma is giving money, it is the political system that allows it.
Thanks for trotting out all the hoary Big Pharm justifications. Nothing new here except you failed in insert "life-saving" into every other touted drug defense.
Trust me, a lot of us have been tracking this industry for a very long time. I go back to the 1980's and budding megalomaniac Fauci and his HIV high-jacking. Then in the 1990's, the 40 year long HRT drug scandal was finally exposed the dark machinations of the drug industry in full flower, when those drugs were finally tested in the 1990s' and found to actually be causing all the harm to women they claimed they were preventing.
There is little Big Pharm can be proud of today. We do fine in the US in trauma care, but those are one-time incidents and we do remain the world' leader in that part of health care delivery. We have success stories for this segment of health care right here on this forum. However, we failed badly over-treating the worried-well for Big Pharm fun and profit.
Learn the difference before you knee-jerk your defense of Big Pharm. Big Pharm became more obsessed with tweaking formulas to keep them from going off patent, and tweaking competitor's block buster "wellness drugs" to grab their fair share of the same essential claims and formula.
All the while America got fatter and unhealthier and "disease parameters" kept dropping to include more and more into the "worried well" categories, hoping to be saved by a Big Pharm pill. You have done a splendid job marketing your drugs. Too bad their stats do not comport with their promises.
FYI…vaccines contain Thimersal, and worse, SV-40…thus the blooms of cancers beginning in early 1900s…
Thank God for RFKjr…
https://x.com/bgatesisapyscho/status/1945455998325399754?s=61
https://x.com/killaudeepstate/status/1965201175244144732?s=61
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/The-MAHA-Strategy-WH.pdf
Science (mainly observational studies) gave us better nutrition, better sanitation and elimination of flilthy child birth practices. Don't even bother resting on these now centuries old basic health care breakthroughs and claim this was because of Big Pharm.
Your final "covid" insult however was instantly changing that centuries old definition of "VACCINES" to what your stupid, experimental covid injection was purported to do. But did not. The betrayal of the public runs both profound and deep with that dirty little move.
You need to chill out and wait for the upcoming reports on "autism" as finally much closer looks are being taken of the past few years of Big Pharm marketing hype, touted throughits controlled media lackies, but not "science".
Are you running interference up front, because you know what is in this upcoming report?
David, a number of deaths reported as from Covid were not, in fact, from Covid. Hospitals mis-reported deaths as from Covid in order to get more money.
Are you saying Hospitals all over the world misreported Covid?
Yes, hospitals across the world misrepresented COVID, each was part of the play and were paid handsomely…here in the US, hospitals were rewarded with $9k for each patient identified to have COVID (using false positives via the PCR test) and $39k for each patient put on a ventilator (and more than 70% put on vents died)…COVID is a bioweapon & the clot shots are the real killers…
PS, USA led the world in COVID cases — due to widespread testing…
Yes.. it’s the flu they have an agenda .. how can you not see that?
That's my understanding from what I've read, Michael. I'd like to be wrong, quite honestly. I hate having my trust in our medical establishment destroyed the way it has been through Fauci and the handling of Covid.
My trust in the medical profession has not changed. I think they do the best they can with the facts they have. When the facts change, they change. My point is Covid vaccines worked. It is true that some people who are not vaccinated don’t get the virus. That does not mean that none of us should get vaccinated. I advise people to listen to their doctors. Many of us are concerned that listening to Bobby Kennedy is going to bring back viruses that had been eliminated.
The "covid vaccines" did not work, Micheal. And they caused a huge amount of harm. Drop the lies. There are too many competing and confounding facts today to even begin to support your lie. It was an experimental drug delivery system, and it failed its mass, unregulated human experimentation test - Grade F-
So, you are suggesting there is a worldwide conspiracy involving the whole world’s medical profession and hospitals. And my doctor, and probably your doctor, were part of it. Wow! You are a genius.
I hope you own stock in aluminium companies. The tinfoil you wear must be expensive.
The drug delivery system, MRNA has been around since the 1960s.
There are no competing facts. Facts are facts. Did you fail English? There are opinions that are competing with facts. Michael and myself are using facts, you are using opinions. Your opinion is that it was a failure. Fine, you are entitled to your opinion, but calling it a fact, well, that is comical.
The more I think about this, the more I think you did not do well in English. You keep using cliches without knowing what it even means. These vaccines were regulated. The drug delivery system has been around for ~60 years. Hmm. You know, FACTS.
YES!!!!
So you are trying to imply that one death is ok, but two is not? What number would be enough for you to show empathy?
David, and are you implying that one *mis*-reported death is ok, but two is not? I'm involved with Sepsis awareness and Sepsis deaths during that time were often misreported as Covid. I,m not doing this Substack for self-promotion but for public-awareness of how deadly Sepsis is. https://pollysnewsletter.substack.com/p/september-is-sepsis-awareness-month
You are arguing over the number. If it were 10 people who died, would that be acceptable for you? What about 1mm, what about 10mm, what about 100mm, what about 1bn? What number will it take for you to say, Covid was real? In my eyes, from reading your writings, NO number would prove it. That is kinda scary.
I didn't say that, David. When you're willing to have an open discussion I'd enjoy that. There are no other online political sites in SB where we can do that. Let's honor it here with civility.
Woof, barks the straw dog tag team - MC + DB. You get no political mileage trying to re-write Covid™. Shall we assume RFKJr is over the target right now?
Sophistry gets you no where, David. Which means you are not even remotely prepared to back up your initial attacks.
There was never a serious attempt to determine deaths from covid only deaths with covid determined by pcr test with high rate of false positives. Explain why there were no deaths from the flu? Because everything was labeled a death from covid to raise hysteria with fools like you. Can you explain why the case rate and fatality rate increased after introduction of the mrna poison injection? People who still burp up this nonsense about the covid propaganda are truly clueless. You are right about not taking credit for accomplishments but you are wrong about who gets the credit. It is God not society to whom we owe everything including natural immunity from covid
Ok, I can't help with the ignorance.
Jesus died for his own sins, not mine.
There is no such thing as natural immunity for ANYTHING in the manner in which you describe. But then again, science boggles your mind, but you are ok with using a device that was created by science. Hmm.
People who trivialize the death of others are the clueless, selfish, and ignorant people.
No one is trivializing deaths
What is boggling is still people defend covid like it was more than the FLU and taking the jab
Insanity is trusting government over God . So good luck w that
God . . . what a joke.
The god that said you should be killed for mixing types of fabrics?
The god that said you should kill your children to show allegiance to him?
Keep your god.
Why are you so hyper-defensive? Nobody's telling you not to get vaccinated or continuing to get vaccinated. As they mentioned previously, if you spend a little time looking at some of the data that they've now had the opportunity to collect. I think your perspective would be a little bit different. It would have to be if you read it objectively. Again, I don't care how many times you get vaccinated or how many layers of mask you wear.
Your earlier reference to all the deaths from Covid is really a flag that you haven't really layered down the data. Hospitals were paid handsomely to report a death as being from Covid, which includes those dying from gunshot wounds, complications from debilitating chronic disease diseases in the elderly.
Too quick recommendations. One is go to YouTube and look at Dr. John Campbell. A Brit who was a strong proponent of vaccinations until the data manifested itself. The other recommendation is to go to the website of Steve Kirsh...Substack, etc., big time data from countries around the world. He has had a long standing invite to pay $1 million to the charity of choice from some body from the CDC or the NIH, etc to debate him live on the topic. Zero takers. Zero.
The idea is not to change your mind, but perhaps expose you to data that you apparently have not been exposed. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting what you're posting. Again that data is from governments and health agencies from around the world, not speculation from a politician, etc..
Ahh. Another person who likes to project.
Let me put things in a very simple manner for you. This requires understanding the definitions of words and is the definition of words.
One means one.
Few means few.
Some means some.
Most means most.
All means all.
One doctor does not mean all agree.
Almost all doctors/scientists/researchers disagree with your perspective.
Few hospitals did lie.
I bet you also believe that Mike Lindel was right in his data packet capture and should not pay the money to the guy who proved HIM wrong.
Covid killed people. Fortunately, Covid, through mutations, became less lethal.
Trial by anecdote: a family member went to Cottage Urgent Care for an upper respiratory infection a year ago.
Was tested for "covid" which was negative and was handed a generic instruction sheet for palliative care - except the instruction sheet was still labeled for "covid", which the "test" indicated he did not have.
So now "flu" and "covid" were being handled interchangeably, and money was saved using these left-over "covid" instruction sheets for this year's flu season.
Medical progress: By late 2023, "covid" palliative care instruction sheets suddenly became interchangeable with the old fashion flu. Heads are scratching.
Yes, the mystery about the 100% disappearance of the 'flu" during the height of the 2020/21 election year "covid mass hysteria" remains unsolved .
More than likely they died from the yab or multiple yabs as covid is the flu and yes the compromised were at risk of flu induced sickness but remember the flu deaths were non existent while covid deaths spiked. Wake up because that whole experiment is exactly that an experiment on society . So it is kind of funny how people still defend covid like it’s real.. It’s the flu…
How many shots did you take? I’m positive you jabed up by you commentary
Me not one. Had covid twice. Still alive n kickin unlike many in our town that took that jab and have cancer stage 4 or simply dropped dead suddenly like so many athletes and pilots alike
Florida showed us that taking the appropriate med within three days of getting COVID was just as effective as taking the shot and with no side effects from the shot as I did. Children rarely had any significant effects from COVID so shutting schools was not done in Florida.
No it didn't.
https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-map/state/florida
Just choose a state. CA had a death rate to cases of .9%, FL had a death rate to cases of 1.1%.
Never let math get in the way of your opinion or belief.
psssst....FL population is significantly older....pssst....pesky facts again. Hopefully, this far into the ongoing conversation you have stopped and looked up the fact that hospitals were ringing the register by calling all deaths Covid… And coincidentally other deaths that were attributable to flus, etc. dropped exponentially. Never let the facts get in your way David...
And yet, you are proving that you can not read nor interpret data. You seem so hell bent on your belief that no matter what data is presented you will have some justification for your belief. Try saying the hardest words for a human. You are wrong.
You're saying hospitals got "paid" more by calling something a covid death? When do hospitals get paid anything per death? I thought they got paid 20% or something percent more for treating COVID-19 patients, but that didn't rely on anyone dying.
You still think funny numbers are real numbers, DB. And that somehow splitting hairs on dubious data points at this point matters. It doesn't. Covid was compromised from day one. (See the Johns Hopkins CDC Morbidity Reports spread sheet analysis of that showed no excess deaths from all causes for year one of "covid".) You are rightfully on the defensive now that the multi-year data is rolling in. Don't ever do this again.
Well said. For the estimated difference in suspicious numbers the entire state of California shut down.
Check out latest Covid vax data from Japan, etc. Facts are facts.
Isn't it interesting when you start to distill events and actions to one line comments the truth starts to scream!!!!!
It is like stating the Council used emergency ordinance to shut down State St. and destroy the traffic grid.
Mr. Eringer, keep this up and the 1/2 hour news on TV will become the 5 minute truth report. Or is that Pravda....so confused.
Thanks
Great recap.
I wonder if the Democrat voter will wake up.
Then there are the minions.
But alas Democrats voted for all this and keep voting for it.
And the non voting Republican voted for it too, silence is acceptance.
And the independents. Well if they voted for Ds or remain silent their actions show support for the current state.
Bravo, Ds. When someone complains I ask who they voted for. You know what most say, they voted and or didn’t vote.
Then I tell them to stop whining this is what they wanted.
Kennedy is an imperfect messenger with a very important message. Something is amiss with the trajectory of our nation’s health(not to mention education) and we should be serious to analyze all possible contributors to our decline. I do not want an emergency authorization vaccine jabbed into our youth at this time and place. So much has changed, the virus, the population, our knowledge and alternative treatments for the virus. Unfortunately Secretary Kennedys past statements, career and personal history obfuscates the message.
Mr Kennedy has been victim of a hysteria press far more than he has made any misstatements. I hope you keep listening to him when he is confronted with the many media myths about him. Game plan - what we are doing in "health care" is too expensive and not working. Be open to stop doing a lot of it, and start doing something else. Health care is a duty; not a right. Each person has to start with themselves first. Be well and thrive.
fun article to read with lots of whimsical truths, but wrong on Axis of Evil…What if China, Russia, and others are coordinating w/ POTUS to eliminate the NWO?
All countries have been captured by the evil Cabal over the past century, it’s a deeply rooted cancer that has enveloped the World, BUT, Team Trump is halting their NWO plans…
https://x.com/bgatesisapyscho/status/1964418291654431100?s=61
PS…anyone else notice that the world is on fire… https://x.com/radiogenoa/status/1965391218227241132?s=61
Too many countries deferred to the US NIH/CDC for guidance. Few had the resources to run the massive "health industry" scam like the US, where dollars spent became a misguided surrogate for facts, ethics and competence .
Yes, particularly hard hit with the mass disillusion were the “Five Eyes" (FVEY) countries, the intelligence alliance consisting of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, & the United States (+++ alliances)…mostly, max profits drawn from countries with government control, capital, and mass media influence was a big megaphone…WHO led the global psyop…
https://x.com/fnowisthetime/status/1525286941750480896?s=61
The UK Wellcome Trust is the CDC equivalent in England - another agency funded by British Big Pharm.
Don't forget the faulty transmission modeling done by the Imperial College of Medicine in London, which set the whole "covid™" thing on fire until someone finally asked how had they handled their data to reach their conclusion ...what was it, one out of ten would die from "covid" ....???? Turned out their hasty "conclusions" were classic junk in, junk out. But the flames had already spread - by whom and why?
Then we also learn the head of the Imperial College was shacking up with a director of AVAAZ and the two were breaking all their own UK draconian "quarantine rules". AVAAZ is a global "click-tavist" social media "social justice" operation, providing an instant network for overnight global communications .
One more NGO with shady funding. It will be fun when all these very, very early 2020 "covid" loose ends start coming together.
What were Yahoo News, AVAAZ and Imperial College of Medicine doing in concert in very early 2020 as the first bellwethers for - the Year of Covid™ when the world suddenly appeared to go mad. So much we still don't know, but gut check thinks there was close to a "vast conspiracy" all coming together, in its own way, to set the world on fire and make some massive profits on the side.
OrangemanBad seemed also to be a common denominator among these disparate forces .Questions, so many questions. Keep digging Bobby, we have your back.
Ted Gunderson wasn't an FBI director.
I know, but wait, there’s moer…
https://x.com/redpilldrifter/status/1955721570950738380?s=61
On X there is always more.....
I hope that you don't end up dying in a Covid ward. Or see your grandkids catching measles, or perhaps, if you move to Florida, polio. Vaccine mandates are one of the best public health measures in existence, only fools who don't understand epidemiology argue otherwise.
My two MAGA friends were way ahead of everyone. Neither got the shots. They both got COVID. He was seriously sick for a week or so. She was in intensive care and almost died. She lost her sense of smell and never got it back. They are nice people, and I feel sorry for them.
"Covid™" was never more than a 98.95% recovery flu. Most likely your poor friend who went to the hospital got over treated for "oxygen saturation" numbers used as fake surrogate for "covid" and was put on a ventilator. Those are the only common denominator for "covid" extremis. I feel sorry for them too.
Yes, flu seasons have come and gone for decades that leave people in bed for a week. This is nothing unique to "covid". In the 150's our entire highs school was shut down for a week because so many kids were out with the "Asian Flu". You you still think you live in a sterile bubble? Then there was the "Hong Kong Flu" and others every few years. Be prepared to not panic next time .And be very wary when the powers that be **censor*** every and all flu palliative recommendations, like they did with this one.
Anyone in health care knows there are some years, where everyone has the same story to tell - "I was so sick with the flu I was in bed for a week". Are you very young and did not know this?