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Polly Frost's avatar

Thanks, David, excellent column. I'm just not sure exactly where you stand on our involvement in this. We're already spending billions to supposedly protect Ukraine's borders and with this we'll be spending billions to supposedly protect Israel's borders. When will we start prioritizing our own borders and safety in a real way? America is on the verge of collapse and is being invaded by hostile forces daily. We're not in the position any longer to play the great policer of world justice. And I don't see any other countries coming to protect us.

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Pat Fish's avatar

And the Israeli economy has surplus money while ours tanks. We fund it as a vassal state, and almost all of our legislators are beholden to "campaign donations" from this country that receives "loans" for weaponry. I'm with Polly: prioritize America first.

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Polly Frost's avatar

When I posted this I was certain I'd get a lot of hate responses. It's been great to read the thoughtful, provocative comments from people. What scares me most about Kamala (and given how much about her scares me that makes this really scary) is that she's completely unequipped for leading us through a war. Winston Churchill or Dwight Eisenhower she isn't. And I'm certain her biggest, most influential donors are not just pro-Israel, but pro WWIII. These donors do not seem to care anything about this country except in so far as Israel can benefit from it. This doesn't make me anti-Israel. It doesn't make me pro-Hamas. It makes me afraid of Israel being able to see America as nothing more than their way of gaining world power while crushing ours.

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Thomas John's avatar

Our current MOU with Isreal, signed in 2016, commits the US to providing $3.8 billion per year in military aid from FY2019 through FY2028. I'm not sure if that funding has changed since this new war started.

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DLDawson's avatar

FYI… Between 1946 and 2024, over $1 trillion, or roughly 30% of all US foreign aid, has gone to five countries: Israel ($337.0 billion), Egypt ($198.9 billion), former South Vietnam ($193.8 billion), Afghanistan ($168.5 billion), and South Korea ($127.6 billion), after adjusting for inflation.

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Aimee Smith's avatar

This does not take into account the cost of neocon wars waged on behalf of Israel by the US military. I heard it reported that the second largest US embassy is now in Lebanon with the largest still the Green Zone in Iraq. Clearly the US is gearing up for more war for Israel. The costs for those wars should be included in the calculation for foreign aid to Israel. Certainly it also is aid for the US military industrial complex, but that is not all to the good as Eisenhower warned us. As many have already noted, how can we afford to initiate wars for Israel and not even be able to afford to maintain our own border?

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DLDawson's avatar

Agreed, but Methinks we’re almost there (we are in the war to end all wars)…Peace is the Prize, always trust The Trump…

https://rumble.com/v59dcsy-mike-king-trumps-secret-war-against-israel-revealed-you-decide.html

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Monica Bond's avatar

First, I would like to commend the S.B. Current for bringing articles like this to our attention. It makes for good discussion. There are a number of good comments on why we should not get further involved in this conflict and I do support their views. I would recommend ,as an excellent source of information , listening to Col, Douglas McGregor who is not only a well respected military man but also a great historian . He is well worth listening to to provide accurate and unbiased matter. It is unfortunate that the many Palestinians, a good portion of whom are Christian, are being classified as terrorists when it is they that have lived under terrible conditions since their traditional homeland was taken from them.

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Sawbilly's avatar

Seconding Douglas MacGregor!

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Paul Aijian MD's avatar

People of faith look at this mess through a deferent lens. The plan God, put in place for human history, is inexorably tied to His people the Jews. The final battles between God and Satan are fought in Israel. It behoves all of us to learn for the first time, or to refresh our memories, what was clearly prophesied thousands of years ago. Ezekiel, chapters 38 and 39, and the book of Revelation, would be a great place to start. Imagine wringing your hands over a football game, which is closely contested, trying to ignore the fact that you already know who won.

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Aimee Smith's avatar

Christians know the Bible says none of us are to know the hour of Christ's coming, so be ready at all times. If your pastor says you can cheer the slaughter and starvation of innocents and the sexual torture of captives because it is a "sign", then your pastor is not following Christ, but Satan. Sorry to say it so plainly, but it is so obvious and yet it must be said. Return to the source of Christian teaching to be protected from such outlandish heretical distortions of Christ's teaching. Have nothing to do with the Psyop Scofield Reference Bible or leaders influenced by it. Refuse to let Christ's word be twisted by evil men to get you to facilitate evil. Repent and follow Christ, not the conman Scofield and those who promoted him. Christ's people are those who follow Him, not some genocidal land grabbing atheists in the Holy Land.

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Sawbilly's avatar

I don’t have a dog in this fight. Israel isn’t my people, neither is Iran, and they’re both a long, long way away from us. The world is full of conflicts and tensions — quarreling peoples and nations — and we don’t have the means (or, frankly, the skill) to intervene successfully in every one of them. So why do we show such favor to Israel?

Meanwhile our own economy is teetering, our downtowns are full of crime and zombies, and our southern border is wide open. But we continue cheering Netanyahu (59 standing ovations for him during a one hour speech before Congress!) and spending gazillions in the mideast. (I do understand that we’re stuck being concerned about the mideast because of oil.) Let’s cut Israel loose and take care of some of our own very pressing problems.

I can’t be alone in feeling like Israel uses and treats us as stupidos and suckers. I’m tired of it.

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DLDawson's avatar

I’m with you Sawbilly…time to close down military bases worldwide, bring our troops home, stop sending money to foreign lands for other’s age-old conflicts, and concentrate our fixing our problems…

PS, I don’t support the genocide occurring in Gaza & know that Bibi (war criminal) is prosecuting his war using tactics that don’t follow our laws of war…(see Chapter 4… https://www.academia.edu/15681671/DOD_Law_of_War_Manual)…

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/15/republicans-spent-two-years-resisting-trumps-border-wall-what-changed/

Republicans resisted Trump's efforts to maintain a strong border when they could have easily secured funding for it, but they have no issue in giving billions in aid to Israel.

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DLDawson's avatar

Republicans + Democrats + most others in Our Government worked diligently to stop the border wall project, BUT Trump cleverly bypassed the Deep State by allocating & using Department of Defense monies…

"You will not win" - Pelosi

You didn't think the largest MIL spending bill in history (FY 2019) wasn't going to [indirectly] include funding for THE WALL did you?

See the Constitution re: vested powers of POTUS (Plenary Power) re: matters of NAT SEC.

This was planned and forecasted as the 'border funding' solution from the beginning.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

Israel is a rich country and no doubt can support itself as you have noted. It seems that many in congress are "MIGA" or Israel first while at the same time not doing enough, or merely engaging in things for appeal/popularity rather than getting anything done. Under President Trump the Republican majority in congress(?, don't exactly remember) did nothing.

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Emmett's avatar

Great point about the rulers of terrorists living lives of luxury while their people suffer on the front lines. That’s the way most ruling class are, not actually being connected to the people they are in charge of.

Throughout history, the Bible, God has warned about the mistreatment of people. He has grown tired of the oppressing governments, elites who take advantage of the working class and the continued squeezing of middle and lower class people. God is tired of people being unjust.

It is human nature and we see this pattern continually repeat itself we’ve seen when God has had enough, empires are destroyed, The Great Flood, Sodam, etc….

What we see today is history repeating itself.

What I find interesting is America’s involvement, “ we “ are the greedy bastards promoting war and then going in and cleaning up, profiting off both sides. Our government is the snake in the garden. Do you really think Russia blew up their own Nordstream Pipeline right in the middle of NATO countries? Do you really think Ukraine war is about “democracy” when we installed Zelensky and now that his term is over he refuses to allow elections?. And Venezuela, countries are demanding to see the voting records saying the election was rigged.

Our government will plan a false flag to get Americans to agree to going to war, again.

Just wait till there is an attack directed at US soil in the next couple months.

Sure they’ll blame Iran or N Korea or Russia, not China though. The Dems need their money.

And how many will believe our government is finally telling the truth and demand we go to war?

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Thomas John's avatar

The Ukrainian Constitution does not allow for new elections when the country is under martial law. So it's not really as simple as Zelensky refusing elections....

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Emmett's avatar

They’ve been under martial law for over two years. Very convenient.

In 2018 when Russia attacked them martial law was not country wide and did not last two years.

Zelensky has twice canceled the presidential election citing Marshall law.

Ukraine is not exactly a democracy and it remains unclear as to why we are involved and why we are funding their war.

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LT's avatar

Israel lives in a complicated neighborhood. Completely surrounded by its enemies, they depend on US foreign aid for their very survival. Currently, we are giving Israel $300 billion dollars annually. By far, our leading ally in terms of financial support.

Now, we find ourselves on the brink of WWIII as we await an attack on Israel by Iran. This is on the watch of the Biden administration. Clearly, Biden’s incompetence and mismanagement of foreign policy has contributed to this crisis. Seen the stock market today? It is on the verge of a recession and/or total meltdown.

Under Trump, the US recognized Jerusalem as the Israeli capital and the Abraham Accord which resulted in the smaller Emirates and Sudan recognizing Israel. Peace was within sight.

October 7th changed everything. The murderous rampage by Hamas and Iran by proxy, has vetoed world peace.

Clearly, our ability for energy independence would have us less reliant on this region. It should be obvious to all that the left is incapable of navigating foreign policy and energy independence. Time for new and adult leadership. The Biden administration, the Democratic Party and the liberal left are solely responsible for this pending disaster!

The prospect of electing Kamala Harris will directly result in a financial depression and a world war. It will be interesting to hear her babbling nonsense about what her response will be to this crisis.

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Mark Shevitz's avatar

$300 billion annually?

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LT's avatar

Correction, $300 Billion over a 10 year term. Sorry for misstating.

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Mark Shevitz's avatar

I believe it averages 3-4 billion annually, do perhaps $30-40 billion?

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LT's avatar

Thank you for fact checking and correcting my sloppy math.

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Thomas John's avatar

Per what I wrote above - Our current MOU with Isreal, signed in 2016, commits the US to providing $3.8 billion per year in military aid from FY2019 through FY2028. I'm not sure if that funding has changed since this new war started.

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Aimee Smith's avatar

This neglects the cost of US wars for Israel which is now in the trillions. The Neocons planned on using 9/11 to take out Iraq, Syria, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Lebanon and then Iran according to Gen. Wesley Clark. Do the American people agree with this plan carried out by both parties? They don't care.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Kamala babble nonsense? What crisis? Isn't Israel the country that makes tahini? She likes hummus. But Kamala is very concerned about the middle east. That's where our electric batteries should be made, so it's important that we all get together and combat gasoline energy.

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Steven Jonathan Rummelsburg's avatar

Excellent article! It is really important to understand that Hamas does worship death, they are the culture of death. If a Hamas operative kills innocent people, he is praised in that culture of death, if an Israeli operative kills innocents he is not celebrated. Israel has its faults and its problematic leadership issues and criticism of those real things ought not to be conflated with antisemitism, but those faults are small compared to the homicidal and suicidal mania of Hamas Terror. It ought to alarm us all to see our young college students rallying so intently for the homicidal/suicidal culture of death in our streets.

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Thomas John's avatar

Steven, no doubt that martyrdom is central to Hamas's struggle against Israel. Dying in the path of jihad is the highest form of sacrifice and honor. I find it interesting that we've romatinsized a similar fate for the pagan vikings who would go to Valhalla if they died in battle.

I still think that the majority - not all - of college students are rallying against the leveling of Gaza's men/women and childeren. And only a small percentage are in any way actually pro Hamas.

Sadly, I feel that the way that the Israelis armed forces are acting that they are guaranteeing the the next handful of generations of Palestinian males will line up in support of Hamas. Not saying it's just - just it's what is going to happen.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

Hey, don't ignore the innocent men being killed in this war. I'm sick and tired of half the casualties of this war being ignored because of their sex.

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Thomas John's avatar

Very good point. I'll edit my post as I agree with you and should have put that in.

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Steven Jonathan Rummelsburg's avatar

Thomas John,

We have romanticized the culture of death in our own pagan culture. What will happen remains to be seen, however, there is no outcome consideration that justifies anything other than principled consideration of the realities and a reconnection of the is/ought principle where what "is" requires a just and moral response. The ideological bent of some posters do not support or justify certain conclusions. The smoke and mirrors are prolific and the elevation of "empathy" and demotion of reason and ethics has blinded most of us. (see below)

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Aimee Smith's avatar

Funny how Israel has been around a lot longer than Hamas, yet you seem to have reversed causality for the conflict. The people of Gaza have been subjected to collective imprisonment and routine "moving of the lawn" bombing operations by Israel. Now since Oct 7 that has become a starvation siege against 2.2 million people with bombing campaigns flattening entire areas. Israel will say it is to "get Hamas" but they know that Hamas is not on the surface, the civilians are. That is why sane people who actually care about the United States like Col. Douglas MacGregor, Jeffrey Sachs, Ray McGovern, Judge Napolitano, Prof. Mersheimer correctly note that the policy that Israel is carrying out is to ethnically cleanse Gaza, not rid it of Hamas. Your claims do not line up with the verifiable facts on the ground and your rationalizations for genocide will not age well. Truth outs and God sees all.

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C Schmidt's avatar

You seem to forget that Israel is surrounded by Arabs who want to kill them all and that any land they’ve taken has been the result of being attacked by their enemies. It’s called the spoils of war. Bowing to mostly American pressure, they gave their enemies Gaza and were immediately rewarded with missiles lobbed at them from there. Then came the inevitable massacre of October 7th. You insult everyone’s intelligence with the bogus accusation of genocide. What utter bunk. If Israel is smart, they will ignore American pressure and make Gaza uninhabitable. They would be crazy to let a single Arab live among them again. And where is the evidence of any Gazan starving? That is pure fiction.

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Aimee Smith's avatar

Please research the founding of the state of Israel, because you obviously have not done so yet. Even though Jabotinsky was a terrorist and a Zionist, he was as at least honest about how Israel was being created on land stolen from the Palestinians. Please read his famous essay called "The Iron Wall" as a place to start. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/quot-the-iron-wall-quot

Who says there is famine in Gaza? Anyone who is not a propagandist for Israel. The UN, HRW, Red Cross, USAID. I know, just lie and hope no one looks into it for themself. But truth outs and God sees it all, including every time you lie and cover for mendacious land stealers and genociders.

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C Schmidt's avatar

My Bible tells me that it was God who gave those lands to Israel, so why should I care what anyone else has written or said about it…including you? For a self-professed Christian, you seem mightily confused about this spiritual war underway. It’s all going to end the way God said it would, and it’s all about His relationship to His chosen people, the Jews.

I have not seen one picture or video of a starving Gazan, and neither have you. I have, however, seen videos of the truckloads of food brought into Gaza, much of which was stolen by Hamas. You believe a lie with absolutely no proof.

Lastly, do you seriously not know about the UN workers who took part in October 7th? The UN is a joke.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

You realize that the Israel of the Old Covenant was not the true fulfillment of Israel, which came about through Christ, correct? It was Christ, the Messiah who fulfilled the Old Testament and the chosen people (the people through which the Messiah would come forth) instituted a Church through which ALL men might be saved. The True Israel is the Christian Church, the Mystical body of Christ in which He desires all men be One in him. The Jewish people of Old are not the same as contemporary Jews, and it's funny because you seem confused. The Jews of Old believed that the Messiah would bring about the restoration of the EARTHLY Kingdom of Israel, but Christ never did that. His Kingdom was not of this world and for that reason many Jews did not accept him. Why do you think God would desire Talmudic (not Second Temple Jews) to create a state?

Since when did God state that the secular nationof Israel should be established and supported by Christians? God has used the Jewish people to bring forth the Messiah 2000 years ago, what are they supposed to do now that the Christian Church has already been established?

The Jewish people were special because they were the ones through which the Messiah (Christ) would come from. Christ was of the House and Line of God's servant David, this why they were chosen, to be the people thay would reveal Christ to the world, they aren't greater in worth than any other people.

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C Schmidt's avatar

All of human history is about the restoration of mankind to God. The Jews are front and center, and one cannot read the Bible and not know that. The last seven years of human history will be about the Jews. God did not call gentiles the apple of his eye, and it was to Abraham that He said he would bless those who bless them and curse those who curse them. Christ was a Jew! Connect the dots.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

Christ was revealed to us through the Jews, what more are they to do now that the Church (the continuation of Judaism and the True Israel) has been established by Christ?

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Aimee Smith's avatar

Because your Bible was interpreted by a con artist working for the Rothschild's.

Wow. You know what I saw? You have such confidence in your speculation. That is not wise.

https://www.reuters.com/default/gaza-starving-children-fill-hospital-wards-famine-looms-2024-03-19/

Also, there is documented reports of aid workers being murdered and of food aid being destroyed by Israeli gangs with no consequence form the IDF.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/destruction-lawlessness-red-tape-hobble-aid-gazans-go-hungry-2024-03-25/

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Steven Jonathan Rummelsburg's avatar

C, you are wasting your time with a delusional omniscient. Reality of objectivity are not on the menu for the ideologues, in this case the more studied the more half truths. You will be buried in insults and condescending falsehoods, all unbeknownst to your interlocuter. Self-deceit is the longest river in the human heart. Don't feed it.

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Aimee Smith's avatar

Interesting that you call me an "ideologue" when I take the position from Catholic teaching against the Scofield Reference Bible created delusion called Christian Zionism. I thought you said you were a Roman Catholic. Is that no longer the case? Catholic teaching rejects the Christian Zionism heresy. Even Archbishop Vigano, one of the most prominent voices in the "trad" wing of the Church agrees Christian Zionism is a Satanic Heresy. If I am an "ideologue", then the ideology I am a proponent of is that our society should return to its Catholic roots as its source for moral guidance and social wisdom. It seems to me you are engaging in projection. Given your priorities in articles and comments on this site, I am wondering which master you serve? Christ and His Church that He founded here on earth that is guided by The Holy Spirit or is it someone/something else a tad more worldly? Christ said those who do the will of His Father in heaven are the New Israel, not some land grab by a bunch of userers and murderous thieves in the Middle East.

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C Schmidt's avatar

Oh my, but you Catholics are full of yourselves. Personally, I could never get past the first heresy taught in the catechism that says salvation is dependent on what Christ did on the cross AND membership in the RCC. The RCC has so much bad fruit, you’d think it would be enough to discredit any pretense of true Christianity. At least now I understand why you make no sense.

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Lou Segal's avatar

Great article. Thank you for stating the truth regarding the threat of Iran and its proxies to Israel. However, it's not only Israel, it's the US too. When the most popular political slogan of a country is "death to America" and they imprison women who don't cover their faces, you know you are not dealing with a rational country that can be reasoned with. The reason why we are at this point is because we have a president who thinks you can appease them and somehow they will stop their terror and mayhem in the region. Like the author said, deterrence for Iran means they have to pay a significant price for their bad behavior. Unfortunately, we do not have someone in the White House today who understands this.

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Celeste Barber's avatar

Of course, the United States under the Biden and Obama administrations figure into an emboldened Middle East. Under thise presidencies, our country has been giving aid (Iran) and certainly comfort to Israel's enemies.

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Earl Brown's avatar

I've read all these thoughtful comments - I have a different answer:

Build a wall around the U.S., spend the money we’re pissing away on foreigners on our nuclear arsenal and tell the world to F.O.

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Michael Schaumburg's avatar

Thank you for writing. Why the US didn't demand US citizen hostages back immediately (or else!) after Oct. 7 brutal terrorist attack was awful- still awful - do nothing policy (my opinion). Understanding that Hamas terrorist leader killed by a "planted" bomb in Tehran is much different than a guided middle (more fake news?). If true, then perhaps it wasn't Israel alone, but unhappy dissonant Iranians, which must be really far more threatening to religious leaders: good!

This US administration has provided our country/world with inadequate leadership and their subsequent decisions starting with the glaring Afghanistan retreat (we're the B team) and continues; they should be ashamed and replaced. The unbelievable breakdown of Israeli defense opened the floodgates on Oct. 7 barbaric murders and are responsible, but the years of unsupervised US/world aid to Palestinian terrorists leaders are far more responsible thwarting peace in the entire region. The hypocrisy is shameful!

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Aimee Smith's avatar

"Breakdown of Israeli defense" or intentional facilitation and actual participation in the attack on Oct. 7 in order to create the pretext to "finish the job" in Gaza? Why is there evidence of the use of the Hannibal Option on Oct. 7? That is where Israel kills its own hostages to prevent giving the opponent bargaining leverage. Are you familiar with the use of false flag attacks by Israel? Lavon Affair? Bombing of the King David Hotel?

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Aimee Smith's avatar

There are many more, but the Jewish Zionist terror gang Haganah's attack on the SS Patria in 1940 that killed more than 200 Jewish refugees from war torn Europe is an especially rich example. Zionist Jewish leaders kill Jews as thy claim to act on behalf of Jews. The Zionist leaders are liars, murderers and thieves. By their fruits you will know them, but only if you look honestly and critically at their actions.

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Aimee Smith's avatar

Israel just "wants to live", but unfortunately, Zionism's vision for "Israel" "living" requires the theft of land, the expulsion of the Palestinian land owners, and the use of murder, detention, torture, and even sexual torture to keep their ill gotten gains. That has been going on since the massacres at places like Deir Yassin and Tantura at the time of Israel's founding and ever since as their claims for other people's land are always expanding. Israel has had so much influence on the US, that not only did the US fail to respond to Israel's brutal unprovoked murderous attack on the USS Liberty, it has gotten the US to use the blood of its military and treasure (trillions of dollars that it doesn't have) to vanquish its regional competitors. How can any US citizen be so deluded and foolish as to champion the exploitation of the service of US military personnel and bankrupt our country to slaughter millions in places like Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Yemen, Syria? Now the Neocons push what those who have bought our political class have been after for 30 years - the invasion of Iran as Israel does all it can to escalate the conflict. And how many deluded "American Patriots" will be so foolish as to help justify this latest criminal adventure that also threatens nuclear conflict and World War? Israel looks good for the same reason that an mRNA injection dishonestly called a vaccine looks good: because the media is owned by people who don't let the full truth about either be discussed. But the internet allows even censored voices and facts to get through if you are responsible and do your own research. If you trusted your party leaders or pastor or media to do this research for you, that is no wiser than trusting your doctor or employer or captured regulatory bodies to do your research for you about mRNA injections. They will blindly say "safe and effective" and treat you as crazy for considering other information. There is a truth out there. It is in your interest just as with COVID jabs, to find the truth that powerful people don't want you to know, because just as with the COVID policies, they don't actually care about regular American people, only their own agendas.

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Helene Bidwell's avatar

You might benefit from reading "The Israel Test" bu George Gilder.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

Capitalism is not a Christian system, it's primary concern is capital and maximizing profits. It is not concerned with morality and the spiritual welfare of people.

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Aimee Smith's avatar

You and George Gilder might benefit from reading The Bible, Pascal's "The Pensees", the Catholic Catechism, Alison Weir's book "Against Our Better Judgement", Illan Pape's, "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine", Jabotinsky's short essay "The Iron Wall", the book by Mersheimer and Walt called "The Israel Lobby", Paul Findley's "They Dare to Speak Out", Benjamin Ginsberg's "Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State" for starters...

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Sawbilly's avatar

Seconding “The Israel Lobby.”

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Helene Bidwell's avatar

Gosh, you may want to add " The Protocols of "The Elders of Zion" to that list.

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Aimee Smith's avatar

Go ad hominem if that is all you have. That used to silence a lot of people, but you will find it doesn't work as well any more. I could list many many more books that would help you develop well-informed opinions about the important moral issues in this conflict. Before I took a position, I did a lot of research from all sides. But you can only lead a horse to water, you can't make him (or her) drink.

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DLDawson's avatar

Well said Ma’am re C19 & the “vaccines”…reminded me of the Movie V For Vendetta…came out in 2005 & is about a totalitarian dictatorship that gains its power by creating a society of fear due to an alleged virus spreading throughout the world. In the film the media pushes fear-based propaganda on the television screen of every household & in the city's streets. The authoritarian dictator promises security but not freedom. The constant theme of "this is for your safety" is repeated the throughout the whole film. Most importantly, the movie ends with society waking up & the corrupt, fascist regime is dismantled.

PS, [they] always inform their subjects (mostly in subtle ways) of their planned evil deeds prior to implementation, thinking that it saves them from karmic retribution

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Steve's avatar

Excellent point Paul!

God is bigger than all of this and his plan will never be altered.

Our God has the final say in everything!

God bless

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Mark Shevitz's avatar

Israel aid is a bit different from Ukraine and other beneficiaries of our State Dept. It is to finance the purchase of defense items from the U.S.

U.S. aid to Israel is not simply a financial transaction; it's a strategic investment in our national security, economic prosperity, and shared democratic values. By supporting Israel, we strengthen our position in the world and enhance the safety and well-being of the American people.Regional Stability: Israel is a key U.S. ally in a volatile region. Our support enhances Israel's military capabilities, enabling it to deter threats and maintain regional stability. This is crucial for protecting U.S. interests and preventing conflicts that could destabilize the entire Middle East.

Technological Innovation: Israel is a global leader in technology, particularly in areas like cybersecurity, agriculture, and medicine. U.S. aid helps foster this innovation ecosystem, leading to advancements that benefit both countries.

Intelligence Sharing: Close cooperation with Israel provides the U.S. with invaluable intelligence on threats from terrorism, Iran, and other regional actors. This shared intelligence helps protect Americans at home and abroad.

Economic Partnership: Israel is a strong economic partner of the United States. Our aid strengthens this relationship, creating jobs and boosting economic growth on both sides.

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Aimee Smith's avatar

Why was Israel protected from scrutiny over its torpedoing and strafing the life rafts of the USS Liberty? Why were the survivors commanded to remain silent about it?

Does Israel "share" intelligence or is this a one way street, including Israel, AIPAC and the ADL spying on students and other American citizens? Who were the dancing Israelis? What did Israel know about 9/11 and when did it know it? Who can be trusted and be allowed to officially investigate that question?

Why is freedom of speech, an American bedrock principle, being degraded to protect Israel? UCSB Chancellor said part of the reason to clear the Pro-Palestine encampment was their banner that read "From the River to the Sea", something recent federal legislation made illegal. In the United States of America, no less. Completely unconstitutional. Why did Gov. DeSantis sign one such bill in Israel, a foreign country?

Why does the head of Israel get slavish adoration from the elected officials who are supposed to represent American citizens?

Maybe you aren't giving the full picture.

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Mark Shevitz's avatar

“From the river to the sea” is antisemitic hate speech. It is calling for the extermination of the Jews in Israel. Would you endorse a similar slogan pertaining to any other race or religion? We still have free speech, but on college campuses which for decades have encouraged safe spaces and speech codes, permitting language calling for the killing of Jews is the pinnacle of hypocrisy.

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Aimee Smith's avatar

When you claim "From the river to the sea" means "kill all Jews", you are reading things into it that are simply not there. I do feel safe spaces and speech codes on campuses do present a danger to academic freedom and freedom of speech and threats to religious freedom. I do not agree that pornographic imagery was meant to be included under the first amendment. This is a long discussion and one worth having, but getting off topic.

Actually, "From the River to the Sea" was used by some Zionist Israelis as a rallying cry for a Palestinian-free Greater Israel. (I once saw then Israeli Tourism Minister Benny Elon call for the forced transfer of Palestinians out of the West Bank into Jordan at a US university lecture. I did not hear any complaints about it from administration, faculty or pro-Israel students on the campus. Perhaps you are just not aware that these things do happen to another "[an]other race or religion" and no one bats an eyelash.) However, the slogan has been long used by the US Palestine Solidarity movement to mean equal rights for all in the land of Historic Palestine between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean sea. True, equal rights means the end of Israel as it is now, a state for Jews only on land that is majority non-Jews, but it does not require the killing or even ethnic cleansing of Jews. Jews willing to live as equals would be part of this new state. This will be the most typical understanding of the phrase at any of the College encampments in the US which have a large representation of Jewish students and peace activists. It is called the "one state solution." But even if it did mean to call for all Jewish settlers to leave all of what was historic Palestine, that is a constitutionally protected position that the US Congress cannot interfere with. Part of the reason the government cannot regulate "hate" speech, is that they cannot be trusted to not abuse the authority to determine what is and isn't hate speech for their political agenda. It is very clear that the ADL;s guidance on such matters to big tech companies is extremely biased. Why is Catholic author E Michael Jones deplatformed on youtube, but Ben Shapiro who said "Arabs like to live in open sewage" is not? That should help you understand the importance of the principle behind freedom of speech protection in the Bill of Rights.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

Why does America need to secure interests in a region thousands of miles away? Why is it our business to interfere in a part of the world where we don't live in. The Middle East wasn't concerned with America until we started interfering in their region, until we started to overthrow governments. The United States had had technology stolen by Israel which they have sold off to China, and Iran is not a threat to the United States at all. Warmongers promote the idea that Iran is a threat, Iran will never reach out shores, and they had no issue with us until we started to interfere in the politics of the middle east by promoting regime changes. Americans force their democratic values on others and are shocked people from other cultures don't care, there's nothing Christian about Americanism. We gives billions in aid to Israel while they do nothing in turn.

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C Schmidt's avatar

Israel also happens to be one of the few sane countries in that demented cul-de-sac that is the Middle East. (Credit Dennis Miller)

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LT's avatar

It is certain the US will give Israel unwavering support. In doing so, we need to ask important questions before sending our armed forces into harm’s way.

Who, what entity/group has significant control on world currency, banking, finance, entertainment, media, virtually sits on every corporate board on the Russell 2000 and has significant ties to the Democratic Party?

Now ask yourself why.

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DLDawson's avatar

Over the target LT! Perfect summary of the key Q, “what entity/group has significant control on world currency, banking, finance, entertainment, media, virtually sits on every corporate board on the Russell 2000 and has significant ties to the Democratic Party?”

All roads lead to the Khazarians (fake Jews, aka “name stealers”, masters of disguise, thieves, Babylonian money magic, Moloch/Baal worshippers, +++)…[they] have secretly embedded themselves within the Jewish community in order to hide in the shadows…their history & conniving ways go back to the time of Jesus (and beyond)…know thy enemy https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2015/03/08/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/

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LT's avatar

Q: Which two countries currency are NOT controlled by the Bank of Rothschild or its subsidiaries?

A. North Korea and Iran.

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DLDawson's avatar

add Russia to the list…they have broken free from the financial bindings (as are others in progress — see BRICS), although the Khazarian Mafia is still trying mightily to bring them down…

https://x.com/fnowisthetime/status/1820529762428944641?s=61

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