The author opens with two questions and a comment: "Why do they cut away or not report the rest? Is it because they want to push their agenda and that the chants of support from most of the graduates didn’t fit into their world view? I believe this is the new norm in reporting."
Ah, I also miss the days when there were "only three networks insulting our intelligence"! One of the fixes is to not limit yourself to just one source for information. My cable provider includes a channel called NewsMix which displays four networks simultaneously (CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and BBC). Watching it provides a quick and easy way to compare the "spin" being given to news stories. What is captioned a "Pro-Palestinian Protest" on one network is captioned an "Anti-Israel Protest" on another, like they think we won't notice they are not the same thing. I have found less "spin" on BBC coverage of U.S. events, PLUS BBC provides news on the rest of our planet that often does not even appear on any of our domestic networks. You can easily scroll between the channels. Other options require you to view just one station, such as the English language editions of France Press 24, Deutsche Welle, and Al-Jazeera. I used to also watch RT (Russian TV), but it was removed by my provider. My father used to comment after watching the 3 news options "Interesting, but what did they not want us to know?" ...inquiring minds want to know!
Thank you, Bonnie, for being the eyes and ears so lacking in local “news”. I don’t bother to look at KEYT, unless there is a natural disaster actively occurring. When I do, am dismayed by the delay in up to the moment critical information. John P gets out there, ultimately. I don’t trust the owners of KEYT any more than I trust gas station sushi. My alternative source of local news used to be the News Press. The fact that Wendy was the first person to use her paper to endorse Trump, combined with her libertarian bent, was a refreshing alternative to the political views from the Independent and Ed Hat. That left the Noozhawk. It’s failure to mention the Easter, 2 years in a row, combined with the recent celebration of nurses ( Margaret Sanger 🤷) have resulted in my dropping it. That basically leaves the Current. Thank you James, Jim and Bonnie!
Bonnie, Regarding your initial question as to how different entities present different “news”: there can never be two realities. There can NOT be two different facts at one time : for example, “one and one is two”, or “ one and one is three “ defies reality; another example is “Joe Biden won the last election “ (fact ) vs “I, Trump, won the last election “. One of those last “facts” is not reality.
As a pursuer of truth and reality, it is my experience in reading yours and other writers. in this substack: almost all the writers are not dealing in reality as presented by the majority of what I perceive to be intelligent , critical thinkers, honest writers and real news reporters of the political scene.
Additionally and most important: most of the writers on this substack are all biased Republicans. Why don’t you allow a challenge to the ultra-self-serving, politically biased LACK OF FACTS AND REALITY which appears here, week after week? Where is the REALITY, the FACTS of what gets written here?
Did any of you have the intelligence to listen to a man, grounded in reality, on Stephanie Ruhle’s show last night? I’m referring to your fellow-Republican, Mitt Romney. How refreshing to hear him speak of truths, even when he criticizes a Democrat.
The writers on this substack may attract uneducated religious readers, but you will never convince intelligent readers who receive facts about the Reality of our present political scene and from their own eyes and ears as well. How can you tolerate listening to the pathetic lies of one very sick, uneducated, self-serving, multiply-indicted criminal named Trump?
One aspect of all you writers here which I never never see is this: No one ever makes one true factual statement regarding what Trump plans to do to enhance our Democracy IF HE gets to win the election. That man ( or “orange turd”, take your pick, not my words ) speaks only of the disaster and punishments he will inflict. Where are his promises to help Americans….all of us? Isn’t THAT the function of an elected President?
Greeting Nancy...appreciate your well written comments, but generally disagree with several of your points...
1. "There can NOT be two different facts at one time : for example, “one and one is two”, or “one and one is three“ ... Joe Biden won the last election fact v Trump won the last election."
Unfortunately, Our “main stream media” is comprised of very few Truth tellers & many many dishonest (corrupt) news outlets...causes disbelief & confusion (all engineered)...so, depends upon who to believe...most no longer believe MSM, as evidenced by small & contracting viewerships/readerships…many believe that Biden won the 2020 election fair & square ("most honest election in our nation's history", so we're told), but more than half the nation believe that the election was unfair (80,000,000 mass mail ballots - what could go wrong?…ballot harvesting, ballot mules, 5 key swing states halt vote counting in the evening/overnight hours, boxes of Biden ballots delivered late, etc, etc, etc)...
2. "most of the writers on this substack are all biased Republicans...any of you have the intelligence to listen to Republican Romney on Stephanie Ruhle’s show last night..."refreshing to hear him speak of truths."
I did watch Mitt Romney on MSDNC last night... interesting interview & I appreciate your thoughts on his "truths"... while I'm not a Republican (quit the Republican Party when they ran Poppy Bush in '92 (another corrupt political player) and voted for Perot (always wanted to send an outsider to Washington to shake the tree), I agree that many of the articles & comments on this forum lean right...but it takes both the black & white shades to paint the picture...PS, I believe that Romney is on-the-take and/or compromised…
3. "The writers on this substack may attract uneducated religious readers...how can you tolerate listening to the pathetic lies of one very sick, uneducated, self-serving, multiply-indicted criminal named Trump...No one makes factual statements about "Orange Turd" (your label, not mine) plans to enhance Democracy if elected...speaks only of the disaster and punishments...where are his promises to help Americans…
I could be wrong, but you seem to hate Trump…he's just a man (an imperfect being like the rest of us humans)...hate is a funny thing...it requires daily physical (calories, mental effort, hormones) resources...people engaged in the "hate" process will typically also seek external reinforcement of that state by social contact, diet, and specific practices, including religious rituals...one can be trained to hate, by other humans, or by their experience within this Matterium, BUT you can never be a passive hater..."hate" requires real work...that's not for me...
4. "I AM YOUR RETRIBUTION“? How very sick he is"...
Trump considers himself a wartime President (as he announced in Spring 2020 when we were hit with C19)...he also stated that the President has extraordinary powers (true statement...see Abraham Lincoln's use of such powers to save the Union)...we are at war Nancy...our country has been captured (all 3 branches)...believe it or not, Trump is leading the counterinsurgency...
I love your spirit Sister, your a Patriot…stay safe, we are in for a very bumpy ride over the coming months…
PS…bet you a lemonade that you vote for Trump in November 😎
DLDAWSON: I will address only youR statement re who won the election, and then your last sentence. ( But thanks for a few reasonable-sounding comments )
Re who won….regardless of your rationale about numbers…our voting system says the person who wins the MOST ELECTORAL VOTES WINS. BIDEN WON THE MOST. Why are you vacillating . FACT: Joe Biden won the last presidency fair and square according to the laws of these United States. THERE ARE. NO TWO WINNERS, THERE ARE NO TWO FACTS. THE NUMBER OF LOSER VOTES IS IRRELEVANT. THAT IS THE POINT IVE BEEN TRYING TO. MAKE ABOUT FACTS!
As to the lemonade you are willing to give me……I have never before been exposed to the likes of a Trump-creature. I attribute his ultra-unhealthy personality to a very damaged self-image.
He really is sick; wants to be king, but is so damaged, so incredibly unfit, so rather stupid…..if he had one iota of self respect, he wouldn’t need to keep telling us how great he is.
Only a pathetically small ego needs such constant stroking.
Can anyone imagine Trump saying…EVER….” I think I made a mistake “? Or. “ I’m sorry.”
He even hates and degrades American soldiers who died for our country! He lies about knowing Stormy Daniels?.
My puzzlement: HOW CAN ANYONE VOTE FOR HIM? He really is a turd.
I agree that Biden was sworn in as President after the election fiasco (could there be 2 Presidents?), but the remainder of your response shows your hate for Trump…the man that you will come to respect one day (soon) & eventually learn to love like a father…see you at the lemonade stand…
I am so bent over with laughter I can hardly catch my breathe to type…..why wouldn’t ANY intelligent concerned person not….hah hah ha …hate an adulterer, fraud, liar, would be Dictator bent on retribution, liar, liar, liar…..the real question to ponder is : WHY DOESNT EVERYBODY SEE HOW WORTHY OF HATRED HE IS?
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS HIS MERIT? Name just one…..I will wait.
FYI…many are wakening to the understanding that our elections have been rigged for decades…I’ll leave you with a few Qs…ask yourself:
was Trump asked to run for President w/ assurances made to prevent tampering? Military Intelligence? What is 'State Secrets' and how upheld in the SC? What must be completed to engage MI over other (3) letter agencies? (stolen elections, end of democracy?) What was Flynn's background? Why is this relevant? Why did Adm Rogers (NSA) meet Trump privately in a SCIF w/o auth? Does Trump know where the bodies are buried? Does Trump have the goods on most bad actors? Was Trump asked to run for President? Why? By Who? Was HRC next in line? Was the election suppose to be rigged? Did good people prevent the rigging? How is Trump always 5-steps ahead? Who is helping Trump?
expand your thinking Sister…always good to question one’s “reality”…
Hee Hee Hee - O Boy! I can’t wait ‘till Trumpy blows away FJoe Biden and the rest of the CommieDems this November! I just hope our Nancy doesn’t do anything foolish, like admitting the GOP are thoughtful, intelligent, true Americans, and the Dems are a bunch of overeducated Commies floating in dreamsville!
YOU err…..” two sets of facts.”? Ridiculous. Give an example, for those in the cheap seats.
How does this so-called “ fact “…..” Trump won the last presidential election “ possibly EXIST ( except as a bold lie ) in the presence of the proven fact that Biden won the last Presidential election?
Show me how the Trump lie is a “ FACT “ or how it can co-exist as a FACT in the face of the evidence?
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY ?? This is typical of the idiocy of Republican ( so-callled ) thinking .
What is the point of that question.? Whoever you are….you don’t make sense. And in a dialog where the topic is facts…..the screams: NONSENSE! Exactly what the original point was about the importance of speaking facts, truths, of eliminating garbage like “ good people on BOTH sides.”
Playing silly word games is one more way of evading truth. A coward’s way.
I was actually trying to support your point buy suggesting Kellyanne Conway was writing about her "alternative facts" on this site and it's become quite the argument with them. I guess I need to be more direct - facts are facts - there are not two sets.
Why don’t you demonstrate how your statement (2.) is correct? Do it.
You’re slithering again…ala FOX: just make a statement and NEver point to its source, or its rationale, never show proof. Just like this last post of yours.
You can not demonstrate that I do not listen when I reply to what is said with references, quotes, proof and indications of what I am alleging.
See….you once again demonstrate your shallowness. Make an untrue statement about me, then slither away when I ask for you to give proof of it. No debate possible with you. As for watching Fox…..just enough to determine they are unworthy of serious watching.
For the most part most people do not like "We Told You So Comments" so here is you opportunity to scroll down and not read this.
Cars Are Basic, in its first decade rang the bell about potential failures along State St. and the entire Old Town Santa Barbara. Ridicule is a kind word for what we were meet with.
After all we were nothing but a bunch of disgruntled businessmen and the environment was more important then jobs and vitality.
Today you have Bonnie's well thought out letter about the 40 years+ of failure. You have top level business types and economic planners laying out the devastation that used to be Down Town SB.
We warned you. There are supposed concerned organizations that are deviling into neighborhoods and planning for "Alternative" transportation and the long term effects.
Here is a suggestion. Instead of having one or two "major" events talking about what is happening why not back and attend an organization that has been around for over a quarter of a century? Why not use that "standing" in the legal sector that gives you leverage to stop the insanity called the 15 minute city and streets that are dysfunctional? The swells of the City stated you will get more influence with being willing to work with the stupid planning types.
Bonnie, your article successfully skewers the city council and staff for ignorance and incompetence without leaving blood. Perhaps, they will now listen to the people who have skin in the game, instead of hiring consultants who readily follow the wishes of their paymasters, rather than those who have to live with the results.
THEO. NEITHER you nor anyone who favors trump will say : WHAT ARE HIS VALUES that are in accord with yours? Do you approve of fraud ( Trump does and has engaged in it ), NOT paying Fed. Taxes? how about assaulting women ( 16 claim he has; he is convicted of having to pay in millions $$$ to one ), starting an insurrection against our Democratic gov., claiming he WON an election he CLEARLY LOST? And lies, lies, lies…..stacks of them!
He hates immigrants, people of color, wants to be a Dictator. Hates our American soldiers who died in the wars..John McCain for being imprisoned !
As a self-described Catholic, what do you value of a sinner and a disdainer of our Democracy?
PLEASE, TELL ME, O RELIGIOUS-ONE. THIS DISHONESTY IS WHAT MAKES SO-Called BELIEVERS IN GOD SUSPECT VIS A VIS THEIR HONESTY.
Once again: I implore you. WHICH OF TRUMP VALUES MIRROR YOURS? Do you think he ever contemplates the concept of “ god “? Of honesty, of kindness, of faithfulness to wive(s)?
It's Thursday afternoon and I'm watching the SB city Planning commission right now, oh good grief. They are talking about the city Climate Action Plan. Seriously. The guy on city staff is stating they want to reduce the amount of natural gas used in the city. I for one have used a gas heater and stove for most of the four decades I've lived in SB and I love it.
Here's another topic, the Decarbonize City Buildings Plan. . . Huh?
Thank goodness the city has budget deficit, somewhere between 7 and 10 million dollars. I'm glad because this is just talk with no chance of being implimented.
So if you want to see how lame our city boards and commissions are, just tune into channel 18 on Cox cable or better yet, the City of Santa Barbara You Tube channel.
Have you ever heard of separation of religion and State? There’s a good reason for that. Religious beliefs are personal and range from the demented to the sublime and have NO place in facts or politics. Witness, the bulk of trump’s voters APPEAR to have beliefs which tolerate lies, adultery, convictions, fraud and other breaking of our Democratic laws.
Politics is about our Constitution and our laws. Let’s stick to facts. Keep your beliefs about the state of your soul or afterlife to yourself since the topic was FACTS.
What’s your point in asking these questions? Do you have one, apart from appearing to imply you know more than we ? AND if you actually KNOW the answers, why so smug? Share, along with sources.
As far as my understanding of recent history, Trump, in true racist fashion, hated Obama. Who in their right mind would have put him up to these shenanigans which are undermining our Democracy? Are you implying another country/Government?
Or is it just fun to ask those impossible to answer questions? Speak pls.
Thank you Thomas John….and you are correct in ( subtlety ) noting that I DID MISS THE POINT.. Feel free to note other inconsistencies in my comments…..I am serious. I never said I was/am perfect. I love a serious debate.
It is really difficult to get these Republicans to actually address a topic.. it seems…ala TRUMP….easier for them to just criticize, deflect, lie, evade, change the thrust of topic…..ho hum.
What else is new about the sad state of this present Republican Party?
Livingnotwell….im awaiting a FACT from the bunch of you. So far…nothing except the statement that there can be TWO SETS OF FACTS…..PROVE IT AND STOP just criticizing, Make your case or shut up. Criticisms because you can’t substantiate your totally stupid statement is not a way to prove the validity of that statement.
HOW CAN BOTH BIDEN AND TRUMP BE CORRECT ABOUT WHO WON THE PRESIDENCY…..SHOW ME.
THEO….You say “ …the church SHOULD influence politics….” Just EXACTLY WHICH church? Can you imagine the chaos: A make-believe, authoritarian entity….of which there are hundreds of different ones…..” SHOULD” influence politics? Have you genuinely given this ANY thought…..just exactly which religion should do this and how……? Crazy idea. Our forefathers knew the folly of such an impractical idea. So you might vote for Trump or maybe Mary Magdalene ? Tell me, what are Trump’s. VIrtues? What about him will make this country a better place to live….and do me a favor: don’t talk about any alternative to Trump, just find what you like about Trump as President and spell it out….because I can NOT think of one possible contribution he could possibly make to American, but I can think of much harm he can/has done.
So, speak well of the man. What do you like about him. SPEAK TRUTH….hard specific attributes he may be hiding from me. AND YOU.
I read this solid article by Ms. Donovan and I quote "Have you ever noticed someone commenting on the news, and it dawns on you that what they watched is different from what you watched?"
This statement can be and should be applied to the CA State and SB County So-Called-Leaders. Are
they all looking at the same data, facts that show major problems in this State and in this County?
The main problem here is the So-Called-Leaders and people that they surround themselves with.
The recent lawsuit and many others against the SB County should tell everyone that there are very serious problems, amoung many, here in SB. See weblink below>>
"Three county employees recently filed the lawsuit against county Public Health Director Mouhanad Hammami and Public Health Officer Dr. Henning Ansorg and claim the county failed to properly investigate workplace safety complaints and failed to protect them from further harassment."
When So-Called-County-Leaders sue each other over, yes descrimination, you have a major problem folks and face it this place is rife with incompentence.
Where is all of that fair and safe practices of DEI, "WokeSpoke" Non-Discrimination in SB and CALI?
The author opens with two questions and a comment: "Why do they cut away or not report the rest? Is it because they want to push their agenda and that the chants of support from most of the graduates didn’t fit into their world view? I believe this is the new norm in reporting."
Ah, I also miss the days when there were "only three networks insulting our intelligence"! One of the fixes is to not limit yourself to just one source for information. My cable provider includes a channel called NewsMix which displays four networks simultaneously (CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and BBC). Watching it provides a quick and easy way to compare the "spin" being given to news stories. What is captioned a "Pro-Palestinian Protest" on one network is captioned an "Anti-Israel Protest" on another, like they think we won't notice they are not the same thing. I have found less "spin" on BBC coverage of U.S. events, PLUS BBC provides news on the rest of our planet that often does not even appear on any of our domestic networks. You can easily scroll between the channels. Other options require you to view just one station, such as the English language editions of France Press 24, Deutsche Welle, and Al-Jazeera. I used to also watch RT (Russian TV), but it was removed by my provider. My father used to comment after watching the 3 news options "Interesting, but what did they not want us to know?" ...inquiring minds want to know!
Thanks for your comment! I also watch all of the stations. I agree with what you said about BBC!
Thank you, Bonnie, for being the eyes and ears so lacking in local “news”. I don’t bother to look at KEYT, unless there is a natural disaster actively occurring. When I do, am dismayed by the delay in up to the moment critical information. John P gets out there, ultimately. I don’t trust the owners of KEYT any more than I trust gas station sushi. My alternative source of local news used to be the News Press. The fact that Wendy was the first person to use her paper to endorse Trump, combined with her libertarian bent, was a refreshing alternative to the political views from the Independent and Ed Hat. That left the Noozhawk. It’s failure to mention the Easter, 2 years in a row, combined with the recent celebration of nurses ( Margaret Sanger 🤷) have resulted in my dropping it. That basically leaves the Current. Thank you James, Jim and Bonnie!
Bonnie, Regarding your initial question as to how different entities present different “news”: there can never be two realities. There can NOT be two different facts at one time : for example, “one and one is two”, or “ one and one is three “ defies reality; another example is “Joe Biden won the last election “ (fact ) vs “I, Trump, won the last election “. One of those last “facts” is not reality.
As a pursuer of truth and reality, it is my experience in reading yours and other writers. in this substack: almost all the writers are not dealing in reality as presented by the majority of what I perceive to be intelligent , critical thinkers, honest writers and real news reporters of the political scene.
Additionally and most important: most of the writers on this substack are all biased Republicans. Why don’t you allow a challenge to the ultra-self-serving, politically biased LACK OF FACTS AND REALITY which appears here, week after week? Where is the REALITY, the FACTS of what gets written here?
Did any of you have the intelligence to listen to a man, grounded in reality, on Stephanie Ruhle’s show last night? I’m referring to your fellow-Republican, Mitt Romney. How refreshing to hear him speak of truths, even when he criticizes a Democrat.
The writers on this substack may attract uneducated religious readers, but you will never convince intelligent readers who receive facts about the Reality of our present political scene and from their own eyes and ears as well. How can you tolerate listening to the pathetic lies of one very sick, uneducated, self-serving, multiply-indicted criminal named Trump?
One aspect of all you writers here which I never never see is this: No one ever makes one true factual statement regarding what Trump plans to do to enhance our Democracy IF HE gets to win the election. That man ( or “orange turd”, take your pick, not my words ) speaks only of the disaster and punishments he will inflict. Where are his promises to help Americans….all of us? Isn’t THAT the function of an elected President?
“ I AM YOUR RETRIBUTION “? How very sick he is.
Greeting Nancy...appreciate your well written comments, but generally disagree with several of your points...
1. "There can NOT be two different facts at one time : for example, “one and one is two”, or “one and one is three“ ... Joe Biden won the last election fact v Trump won the last election."
Unfortunately, Our “main stream media” is comprised of very few Truth tellers & many many dishonest (corrupt) news outlets...causes disbelief & confusion (all engineered)...so, depends upon who to believe...most no longer believe MSM, as evidenced by small & contracting viewerships/readerships…many believe that Biden won the 2020 election fair & square ("most honest election in our nation's history", so we're told), but more than half the nation believe that the election was unfair (80,000,000 mass mail ballots - what could go wrong?…ballot harvesting, ballot mules, 5 key swing states halt vote counting in the evening/overnight hours, boxes of Biden ballots delivered late, etc, etc, etc)...
2. "most of the writers on this substack are all biased Republicans...any of you have the intelligence to listen to Republican Romney on Stephanie Ruhle’s show last night..."refreshing to hear him speak of truths."
I did watch Mitt Romney on MSDNC last night... interesting interview & I appreciate your thoughts on his "truths"... while I'm not a Republican (quit the Republican Party when they ran Poppy Bush in '92 (another corrupt political player) and voted for Perot (always wanted to send an outsider to Washington to shake the tree), I agree that many of the articles & comments on this forum lean right...but it takes both the black & white shades to paint the picture...PS, I believe that Romney is on-the-take and/or compromised…
3. "The writers on this substack may attract uneducated religious readers...how can you tolerate listening to the pathetic lies of one very sick, uneducated, self-serving, multiply-indicted criminal named Trump...No one makes factual statements about "Orange Turd" (your label, not mine) plans to enhance Democracy if elected...speaks only of the disaster and punishments...where are his promises to help Americans…
I could be wrong, but you seem to hate Trump…he's just a man (an imperfect being like the rest of us humans)...hate is a funny thing...it requires daily physical (calories, mental effort, hormones) resources...people engaged in the "hate" process will typically also seek external reinforcement of that state by social contact, diet, and specific practices, including religious rituals...one can be trained to hate, by other humans, or by their experience within this Matterium, BUT you can never be a passive hater..."hate" requires real work...that's not for me...
4. "I AM YOUR RETRIBUTION“? How very sick he is"...
Trump considers himself a wartime President (as he announced in Spring 2020 when we were hit with C19)...he also stated that the President has extraordinary powers (true statement...see Abraham Lincoln's use of such powers to save the Union)...we are at war Nancy...our country has been captured (all 3 branches)...believe it or not, Trump is leading the counterinsurgency...
I love your spirit Sister, your a Patriot…stay safe, we are in for a very bumpy ride over the coming months…
PS…bet you a lemonade that you vote for Trump in November 😎
DLDAWSON: I will address only youR statement re who won the election, and then your last sentence. ( But thanks for a few reasonable-sounding comments )
Re who won….regardless of your rationale about numbers…our voting system says the person who wins the MOST ELECTORAL VOTES WINS. BIDEN WON THE MOST. Why are you vacillating . FACT: Joe Biden won the last presidency fair and square according to the laws of these United States. THERE ARE. NO TWO WINNERS, THERE ARE NO TWO FACTS. THE NUMBER OF LOSER VOTES IS IRRELEVANT. THAT IS THE POINT IVE BEEN TRYING TO. MAKE ABOUT FACTS!
As to the lemonade you are willing to give me……I have never before been exposed to the likes of a Trump-creature. I attribute his ultra-unhealthy personality to a very damaged self-image.
He really is sick; wants to be king, but is so damaged, so incredibly unfit, so rather stupid…..if he had one iota of self respect, he wouldn’t need to keep telling us how great he is.
Only a pathetically small ego needs such constant stroking.
Can anyone imagine Trump saying…EVER….” I think I made a mistake “? Or. “ I’m sorry.”
He even hates and degrades American soldiers who died for our country! He lies about knowing Stormy Daniels?.
My puzzlement: HOW CAN ANYONE VOTE FOR HIM? He really is a turd.
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I agree that Biden was sworn in as President after the election fiasco (could there be 2 Presidents?), but the remainder of your response shows your hate for Trump…the man that you will come to respect one day (soon) & eventually learn to love like a father…see you at the lemonade stand…
I am so bent over with laughter I can hardly catch my breathe to type…..why wouldn’t ANY intelligent concerned person not….hah hah ha …hate an adulterer, fraud, liar, would be Dictator bent on retribution, liar, liar, liar…..the real question to ponder is : WHY DOESNT EVERYBODY SEE HOW WORTHY OF HATRED HE IS?
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS HIS MERIT? Name just one…..I will wait.
FYI…many are wakening to the understanding that our elections have been rigged for decades…I’ll leave you with a few Qs…ask yourself:
was Trump asked to run for President w/ assurances made to prevent tampering? Military Intelligence? What is 'State Secrets' and how upheld in the SC? What must be completed to engage MI over other (3) letter agencies? (stolen elections, end of democracy?) What was Flynn's background? Why is this relevant? Why did Adm Rogers (NSA) meet Trump privately in a SCIF w/o auth? Does Trump know where the bodies are buried? Does Trump have the goods on most bad actors? Was Trump asked to run for President? Why? By Who? Was HRC next in line? Was the election suppose to be rigged? Did good people prevent the rigging? How is Trump always 5-steps ahead? Who is helping Trump?
expand your thinking Sister…always good to question one’s “reality”…
Hee Hee Hee - O Boy! I can’t wait ‘till Trumpy blows away FJoe Biden and the rest of the CommieDems this November! I just hope our Nancy doesn’t do anything foolish, like admitting the GOP are thoughtful, intelligent, true Americans, and the Dems are a bunch of overeducated Commies floating in dreamsville!
Theotokos: You “ do drugs and watch porn “…..whoever you are? Good luck to you. Just stay away from the polls. We don’t need one more nut to vote.
YOU err…..” two sets of facts.”? Ridiculous. Give an example, for those in the cheap seats.
How does this so-called “ fact “…..” Trump won the last presidential election “ possibly EXIST ( except as a bold lie ) in the presence of the proven fact that Biden won the last Presidential election?
Show me how the Trump lie is a “ FACT “ or how it can co-exist as a FACT in the face of the evidence?
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY ?? This is typical of the idiocy of Republican ( so-callled ) thinking .
Maybe Kellyanne Conway is a ghost writer on the SB Current?
What is the point of that question.? Whoever you are….you don’t make sense. And in a dialog where the topic is facts…..the screams: NONSENSE! Exactly what the original point was about the importance of speaking facts, truths, of eliminating garbage like “ good people on BOTH sides.”
Playing silly word games is one more way of evading truth. A coward’s way.
I was actually trying to support your point buy suggesting Kellyanne Conway was writing about her "alternative facts" on this site and it's become quite the argument with them. I guess I need to be more direct - facts are facts - there are not two sets.
Why don’t you demonstrate how your statement (2.) is correct? Do it.
You’re slithering again…ala FOX: just make a statement and NEver point to its source, or its rationale, never show proof. Just like this last post of yours.
You can not demonstrate that I do not listen when I reply to what is said with references, quotes, proof and indications of what I am alleging.
Go ahead: make an intelligent statement. Try it.
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See….you once again demonstrate your shallowness. Make an untrue statement about me, then slither away when I ask for you to give proof of it. No debate possible with you. As for watching Fox…..just enough to determine they are unworthy of serious watching.
I’m curious….did Putin put Carson in jail?
For the most part most people do not like "We Told You So Comments" so here is you opportunity to scroll down and not read this.
Cars Are Basic, in its first decade rang the bell about potential failures along State St. and the entire Old Town Santa Barbara. Ridicule is a kind word for what we were meet with.
After all we were nothing but a bunch of disgruntled businessmen and the environment was more important then jobs and vitality.
Today you have Bonnie's well thought out letter about the 40 years+ of failure. You have top level business types and economic planners laying out the devastation that used to be Down Town SB.
We warned you. There are supposed concerned organizations that are deviling into neighborhoods and planning for "Alternative" transportation and the long term effects.
Here is a suggestion. Instead of having one or two "major" events talking about what is happening why not back and attend an organization that has been around for over a quarter of a century? Why not use that "standing" in the legal sector that gives you leverage to stop the insanity called the 15 minute city and streets that are dysfunctional? The swells of the City stated you will get more influence with being willing to work with the stupid planning types.
So here you go..... We Told You So.
Bonnie thanks.
Scott Wenz President CAB
Bonnie, your article successfully skewers the city council and staff for ignorance and incompetence without leaving blood. Perhaps, they will now listen to the people who have skin in the game, instead of hiring consultants who readily follow the wishes of their paymasters, rather than those who have to live with the results.
THEO. NEITHER you nor anyone who favors trump will say : WHAT ARE HIS VALUES that are in accord with yours? Do you approve of fraud ( Trump does and has engaged in it ), NOT paying Fed. Taxes? how about assaulting women ( 16 claim he has; he is convicted of having to pay in millions $$$ to one ), starting an insurrection against our Democratic gov., claiming he WON an election he CLEARLY LOST? And lies, lies, lies…..stacks of them!
He hates immigrants, people of color, wants to be a Dictator. Hates our American soldiers who died in the wars..John McCain for being imprisoned !
As a self-described Catholic, what do you value of a sinner and a disdainer of our Democracy?
PLEASE, TELL ME, O RELIGIOUS-ONE. THIS DISHONESTY IS WHAT MAKES SO-Called BELIEVERS IN GOD SUSPECT VIS A VIS THEIR HONESTY.
Once again: I implore you. WHICH OF TRUMP VALUES MIRROR YOURS? Do you think he ever contemplates the concept of “ god “? Of honesty, of kindness, of faithfulness to wive(s)?
It's Thursday afternoon and I'm watching the SB city Planning commission right now, oh good grief. They are talking about the city Climate Action Plan. Seriously. The guy on city staff is stating they want to reduce the amount of natural gas used in the city. I for one have used a gas heater and stove for most of the four decades I've lived in SB and I love it.
Here's another topic, the Decarbonize City Buildings Plan. . . Huh?
Thank goodness the city has budget deficit, somewhere between 7 and 10 million dollars. I'm glad because this is just talk with no chance of being implimented.
So if you want to see how lame our city boards and commissions are, just tune into channel 18 on Cox cable or better yet, the City of Santa Barbara You Tube channel.
Have you ever heard of separation of religion and State? There’s a good reason for that. Religious beliefs are personal and range from the demented to the sublime and have NO place in facts or politics. Witness, the bulk of trump’s voters APPEAR to have beliefs which tolerate lies, adultery, convictions, fraud and other breaking of our Democratic laws.
Politics is about our Constitution and our laws. Let’s stick to facts. Keep your beliefs about the state of your soul or afterlife to yourself since the topic was FACTS.
DLDAWSON…And the answer is???
What’s your point in asking these questions? Do you have one, apart from appearing to imply you know more than we ? AND if you actually KNOW the answers, why so smug? Share, along with sources.
As far as my understanding of recent history, Trump, in true racist fashion, hated Obama. Who in their right mind would have put him up to these shenanigans which are undermining our Democracy? Are you implying another country/Government?
Or is it just fun to ask those impossible to answer questions? Speak pls.
He gave up everything.
He knew his life, and the lives of his family, would forever change.
He knew (knows) the consequences.
A man who had everything.
Why do it?
no sources needed for commonly agreed upon history...
Spy campaign failed.
Russia Russia Russia failed.
Weissmann [Mueller] failed.
Leaks failed.
Fake news reports failed.
Impeachment failed.
CDC/WHO recommend 'do not close' border failed.
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What if C19 didn't exist?
Economy today?
Unemployment today?
PS...the news is trauma based mind control...you're not being informed, you're being manipulated...
Thank you Thomas John….and you are correct in ( subtlety ) noting that I DID MISS THE POINT.. Feel free to note other inconsistencies in my comments…..I am serious. I never said I was/am perfect. I love a serious debate.
It is really difficult to get these Republicans to actually address a topic.. it seems…ala TRUMP….easier for them to just criticize, deflect, lie, evade, change the thrust of topic…..ho hum.
What else is new about the sad state of this present Republican Party?
Livingnotwell….im awaiting a FACT from the bunch of you. So far…nothing except the statement that there can be TWO SETS OF FACTS…..PROVE IT AND STOP just criticizing, Make your case or shut up. Criticisms because you can’t substantiate your totally stupid statement is not a way to prove the validity of that statement.
HOW CAN BOTH BIDEN AND TRUMP BE CORRECT ABOUT WHO WON THE PRESIDENCY…..SHOW ME.
THEO….You say “ …the church SHOULD influence politics….” Just EXACTLY WHICH church? Can you imagine the chaos: A make-believe, authoritarian entity….of which there are hundreds of different ones…..” SHOULD” influence politics? Have you genuinely given this ANY thought…..just exactly which religion should do this and how……? Crazy idea. Our forefathers knew the folly of such an impractical idea. So you might vote for Trump or maybe Mary Magdalene ? Tell me, what are Trump’s. VIrtues? What about him will make this country a better place to live….and do me a favor: don’t talk about any alternative to Trump, just find what you like about Trump as President and spell it out….because I can NOT think of one possible contribution he could possibly make to American, but I can think of much harm he can/has done.
So, speak well of the man. What do you like about him. SPEAK TRUTH….hard specific attributes he may be hiding from me. AND YOU.
I read this solid article by Ms. Donovan and I quote "Have you ever noticed someone commenting on the news, and it dawns on you that what they watched is different from what you watched?"
This statement can be and should be applied to the CA State and SB County So-Called-Leaders. Are
they all looking at the same data, facts that show major problems in this State and in this County?
The main problem here is the So-Called-Leaders and people that they surround themselves with.
The recent lawsuit and many others against the SB County should tell everyone that there are very serious problems, amoung many, here in SB. See weblink below>>
https://keyt.com/health/2024/04/19/county-of-santa-barbara-served-lawsuit-accusing-public-health-leaders-of-discrimination-workplace-safety-violations/
"Three county employees recently filed the lawsuit against county Public Health Director Mouhanad Hammami and Public Health Officer Dr. Henning Ansorg and claim the county failed to properly investigate workplace safety complaints and failed to protect them from further harassment."
When So-Called-County-Leaders sue each other over, yes descrimination, you have a major problem folks and face it this place is rife with incompentence.
Where is all of that fair and safe practices of DEI, "WokeSpoke" Non-Discrimination in SB and CALI?
Howard Walther, member of a Military Family
Excellent, J. I especially liked your reference to Ulysses - what a cool dude!