I’d blow the fuckers out of the water! If in the end we wind up, freeing the Venezuelan people from a tyrant and getting a better deal on their vast amounts of oil then so much the better.
I would have no fear of prosecution whatsoever. Those senators are bloviating.
Is oil the real motive behind the Trump administration’s hostility towards Venezuela? Of course it is! Why is that a bad thing? Trump, is the incredible pragmatist and has seemed to of developed a strategy in dealing with Maduro by ending the ability to produce drugs, securing the vast oil reserves and putting an end to a Communist regime, all in the same process. Brilliant!
Not since Jefferson used the US Navy in defeat of the Barbary pirates in 1801 has American naval power been used so effectively.
And why not? Under the Monroe Doctrine we have legal authority to take military action in the western hemisphere to protect American interests, and have done so on multiple occasions, ie Mexico, Guatemala, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Panama, and Chile.
Yes, the concept of “Manifest Destiny” should certainly apply to American influence and power around the world and if that requires that we use our Naval power to topple a narco terrorist, drug kingpin, so be it!
BTW: Four local shore birds were rescued covered with oil. But there were no known oil production leaks. Conclusion, they were victims of natural oil seeps in our area.
One more eco-terrorists poster child busted. Along with the polar bear standing on a melting ice-berg, in the middle of August a few yards from shore.
The analysis must distinguish between actions taken on Venezuelan sovereign land and waters, international waters, and U.S. sovereign land and waters. To date, all attacks have been conducted in international waters. If we assume that the boats are carrying drugs to the U.S. market what would be your conclusion?
And what would be your analysis and conclusion if we knew the boats carried pirates who intended to attack cargo ships leaving U.S. waters? The world has experienced Houthi pirates in the Persian Gulf and has responded strongly.
And, on a related note, I have long wondered why the U.S., and especially the Left, has tolerated ( or looked the other way) when drugs (fentanyl) were pouring over the border. My conclusion was that if the Left showed a concern about drugs, it would force it to deal with the border (which it did not want to do). Berney
I read this Naval Article titled "Dilemma On The High Seas
By Brent E. Zepke, Esq." and I have a new title "Mission Statement
of the US Navy" I quote from Mr. Zepke below>
"Suppose you, as the captain of a U.S. Navy Destroyer stationed in the Caribbean Sea, receive a report of a small boat that is reportedly carrying drugs—-aka a “drug boat”—-racing on a known drug route from Venezuela to the United States. AND What would you do?"
I do not think that US Naval Surface Ships, are in general, much different than the Ohio Class Submarine Mission to protect the US against Major Threats found here>
Since I spent alot of time aboard the SSBN 726 (Ohio) SSBN 727 (Michigan) and SSBN 728 (Florida) where their sole Mission is the silently patrol to retaliate with their Trident II ballistic missiles. US Naval Surface ships provide support for the Carrier Strike groups that also
includes the fast Attack Submarines. Diverting these expensive Naval Ships and Submarines detracts from their Main Mission and carries risks. There is a better way to deal with the
Drug Cartel methods of transportation so what is really going down we would all want to ask?
Dose anybody notice that while this dilemma is posed for a ship captain, the videos we've seen of boats being destroyed are all from the air? Not to mention that at least some of those killed appear to have been innocent.
If I were the captain of that boat, I would call the admiral for clarification and I would proceed to interdict and seize the vessel under suspicion. I would demand clarification on the situation when the vessel was not underway and dead in the water. Maybe the vessel is out of fuel and communications? The Law of the Sea dictates a vessel in need of assistance if in danger in international waters, the vessel on scene must provide assistance...no? When the first reports on these hits came out, they stated the boats were full of fentanyl. But ingredients for fentanyl origin in China and processed/manufactured in Mexico. Not too much figuring to know it was cocaine they were after. So, the administration succeeded in raising the price of cocaine. Did they end the USA from using cocaine? I don't think so. If the oil or getting rid of Madero is the objective ...then go for it. I disagree with the present operations, and I find myself again agreeing with Paul Rand....which is surprising to me..
These are good questions to ask. Thank you for the mental exercise.
Thank you for showcasing yet again Democrats are masters of verbal bullying and duplicitous deflection. We start from that point, when answering your critical questions.
I’d blow the fuckers out of the water! If in the end we wind up, freeing the Venezuelan people from a tyrant and getting a better deal on their vast amounts of oil then so much the better.
I would have no fear of prosecution whatsoever. Those senators are bloviating.
Is oil the real motive behind the Trump administration’s hostility towards Venezuela? Of course it is! Why is that a bad thing? Trump, is the incredible pragmatist and has seemed to of developed a strategy in dealing with Maduro by ending the ability to produce drugs, securing the vast oil reserves and putting an end to a Communist regime, all in the same process. Brilliant!
Not since Jefferson used the US Navy in defeat of the Barbary pirates in 1801 has American naval power been used so effectively.
And why not? Under the Monroe Doctrine we have legal authority to take military action in the western hemisphere to protect American interests, and have done so on multiple occasions, ie Mexico, Guatemala, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Panama, and Chile.
Yes, the concept of “Manifest Destiny” should certainly apply to American influence and power around the world and if that requires that we use our Naval power to topple a narco terrorist, drug kingpin, so be it!
Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli!
To your list I would add that President Kennedy used the U.S. Navy to block Russian ships from bringing military materials to Cuba.
BTW: Four local shore birds were rescued covered with oil. But there were no known oil production leaks. Conclusion, they were victims of natural oil seeps in our area.
One more eco-terrorists poster child busted. Along with the polar bear standing on a melting ice-berg, in the middle of August a few yards from shore.
The analysis must distinguish between actions taken on Venezuelan sovereign land and waters, international waters, and U.S. sovereign land and waters. To date, all attacks have been conducted in international waters. If we assume that the boats are carrying drugs to the U.S. market what would be your conclusion?
And what would be your analysis and conclusion if we knew the boats carried pirates who intended to attack cargo ships leaving U.S. waters? The world has experienced Houthi pirates in the Persian Gulf and has responded strongly.
And, on a related note, I have long wondered why the U.S., and especially the Left, has tolerated ( or looked the other way) when drugs (fentanyl) were pouring over the border. My conclusion was that if the Left showed a concern about drugs, it would force it to deal with the border (which it did not want to do). Berney
I read this Naval Article titled "Dilemma On The High Seas
By Brent E. Zepke, Esq." and I have a new title "Mission Statement
of the US Navy" I quote from Mr. Zepke below>
"Suppose you, as the captain of a U.S. Navy Destroyer stationed in the Caribbean Sea, receive a report of a small boat that is reportedly carrying drugs—-aka a “drug boat”—-racing on a known drug route from Venezuela to the United States. AND What would you do?"
I do not think that US Naval Surface Ships, are in general, much different than the Ohio Class Submarine Mission to protect the US against Major Threats found here>
https://gdmissionsystems.com/submarine-systems/ohio-class
Since I spent alot of time aboard the SSBN 726 (Ohio) SSBN 727 (Michigan) and SSBN 728 (Florida) where their sole Mission is the silently patrol to retaliate with their Trident II ballistic missiles. US Naval Surface ships provide support for the Carrier Strike groups that also
includes the fast Attack Submarines. Diverting these expensive Naval Ships and Submarines detracts from their Main Mission and carries risks. There is a better way to deal with the
Drug Cartel methods of transportation so what is really going down we would all want to ask?
https://www.winterwatch.net/2025/09/cia-drug-smuggling-and-dealing-the-birth-of-the-dark-alliance/ >>> "CIA Drug Smuggling and Dealing: Birth of the Dark Alliance"
SO WHO is really involved with WHAT? Is it about DRUGS or more about OIL?
Howard Walther, Member of a Military Family
I vote it's about oil.
Double that Vote John.
I'll go with what Rand Paul and Lisa Murkowski have said.
Dose anybody notice that while this dilemma is posed for a ship captain, the videos we've seen of boats being destroyed are all from the air? Not to mention that at least some of those killed appear to have been innocent.
If I were the captain of that boat, I would call the admiral for clarification and I would proceed to interdict and seize the vessel under suspicion. I would demand clarification on the situation when the vessel was not underway and dead in the water. Maybe the vessel is out of fuel and communications? The Law of the Sea dictates a vessel in need of assistance if in danger in international waters, the vessel on scene must provide assistance...no? When the first reports on these hits came out, they stated the boats were full of fentanyl. But ingredients for fentanyl origin in China and processed/manufactured in Mexico. Not too much figuring to know it was cocaine they were after. So, the administration succeeded in raising the price of cocaine. Did they end the USA from using cocaine? I don't think so. If the oil or getting rid of Madero is the objective ...then go for it. I disagree with the present operations, and I find myself again agreeing with Paul Rand....which is surprising to me..
These are good questions to ask. Thank you for the mental exercise.
Thank you for showcasing yet again Democrats are masters of verbal bullying and duplicitous deflection. We start from that point, when answering your critical questions.
If Senator Mark Kelly allows them to enter the US with their deadly cargo, will Mark Kelly be charged with felony murder?