You lost me when you based this on ABC's investigative series. Although some aspects of your causerie is based on truth. The main culprit of this never-ending repeating cycle of preventative devastation is placed solely on the failed policies and directives of our Democrat Politicians, Bureaucrats and aligned Environmental Commissars in Sacramento through the snowballing effect of decades long policies, regulations and ridiculous environmental mandates. The doom loop will continue until the underlying problem is addressed...a complete transformation of the body politic in California and an overhaul of the regulatory state.
…and yet when listening to our elected officials and local media the focus today is not finding solutions and helping our neighbors. No, the hand wringing, grasping at pearls in the alternate “lefty world “ is the deportation of illegal immigrant criminals. Even on our local Channel 3 there was a segment about the tragedy and disruption of mass deportations. Shows where our priorities are.
Correct. It's their classic deflection. I received Salud Carbajal's "emailer" last week parroting your comment regarding the deportations. He, who just voted against the "Laken Riley" Act, put the interests of illegal alien law-breaker criminals over the safety and security of American citizens. It tells you all you need to know about the state of the Democrat Party and the anti-American, Marxist influence that has taken control of it.
True, the ABC story smells like a smokescreen to try and move the blame from where it belongs, Newsom and Bass. CA failed water and forrest management plans are significant contributors to what we have seen. I think as Democrats race to try and protect Newsoms presidential run, which is 'toast', pun intended, we'll find that people don't want politics they want solutions. However the solution will require removing Democrats from power and dismantling the crippling and corrupt regulatory state that is California. Don't even get me started on how CA has driven away insurers, or how fiscally tottering the Ca Fair Plan is, or how CA tries to hide its massive 'unfunded liabilities' from its balance sheets. The jig is up for them, just a matter of time. Even Democrats have had enough.
ABC did an amazing job over the last 3 years investigating and documenting this topic. I hope people watch it. I did not want to rewrite their report but think it is timely to revisit.
What if the State Capital of CA is moved from Sacramento further south to a more centralized location in the state, such as Fresno. Do you think that would help any? Bring the politicians to the desert so they only have to focus on all the cacti or would they divert water to the desert instead of the ocean.
I edited the first of his four moving forward bullets. I would hope all of these would be considered across the board. Sadly I think the third one will be the hardest to pull off - not just in CA but everywhere.
Robust Maintenance and Upgrades: Investing in infrastructure..
Transparent Regulation: Ensuring that regulatory bodies operate independently from corporate influence.
Proactive Legislation: Crafting laws that prioritize safety and environmental considerations over immediate economic impacts.
Community and Environmental Resilience: Enhancing natural landscapes to resist fire spread and preparing communities with better evacuation and alert systems.
This article points to very important considerations, but I assert it is myopic, missing the forest fires for burning trees.
Although the political and material considerations of PG and E and much more do matter greatly, there are spiritual and immaterial factors that are the hideous womb of this repeating fiasco. To focus more on PG and E than malevolent actors and ideologies is truly to miss the forest for the trees, and safety isn't first, truth and virtue are first- the very inversion of putting "safety" above all else has led to exponential danger.
Until we recover the spiritual eyes of the mind to see the immaterial factors of these conflagrations, we will continue to try to solve intellectual and moral problems with technical solutions and we will continue down this road to hell blaming "global warming" instead of its true cause.
The temptation to recycle the same "profits before public safety and bought politician" stories is premature and trite. Perhaps Nostradamus could ascribe blame, but as the ashes cool more facts will emerge.
To me one of the most off-putting characteristics of todays Democrat left is the tendency to reduce everything to narrative before or irrespective of the facts. The fire was caused by global warming or the hurricane was due to global warming have their counterparts in statements like the fire was due to Democrat dolts botching things. Conservatives would better serve their cause by refraining from speaking from ideology and instead reacting from consideration of the facts. Your link is a great example where the headline implies some evidence that power lines were to blame while the body provides no such evidence. We are better than the left but sometimes display the same repulsive qualities.
Systemic failure on so many different levels. Don’t know where to begin. Failure and incompetence in this state appears to be the standard operating procedure. I wonder if jail time would affect the behavior of utility executives? How many more of these disasters can we endure before we have a complete societal and economic meltdown? It’s really sad and disheartening that our state has become the basket case and laughing stock of the world!
Justin, thanks for this, I’m hoping I can find the series! Not sure if they mentioned it but it is my understanding that certain utilities use technology to instantly turn-off the line, before a hot wire hits the ground. More money and less profits but it exists. Really tragic/prayers for our friends in LA
It’s on YouTube, there are a ton of episodes but most are short. This is one of my favorites because The French Laundry comes up. So crazy how many back room deals were made while we were locked up.
I am not an apologist for utility companies, historically they are not the best managed organizations. But this analysis fails to mention unfunded mandates as part of the problem. The rate of return the company is allowed to earn is determined by the regulators. The utilities are basically told to shut down their most reliable clean energy, ie nuclear, and invest in unreliable, expensive solar, wind and who knows what else. The companies are then required to meet these mandates as well as invest in traditional infrastructure and maintenance. The regulator is intrinsic to the management of the business but unlike the insurance companies, utilities do not have the option to choose not to provide service to CA. The regulators are hiding the true costs of the future CA liberals allegedly desire.
Points taken. Can anyone imagine being in a business whereby your rates and profit margins are controlled by the government? The state, by virtue of its nutty climate agenda forces you into less efficient, less profitable green technologies. To top it off, you have a hostile union labor force, your business plan has extreme liabilities to which you’re on the hook for billions and EVERYTHING you do is highly regulated by the state. What shareholder wants to sign up for that?
Surely the technology exists to underground the power lines or run them in pipelines at ground level... yet another full-employment program that could have been included in the "build back better" infrastructure improvement initiative that never happened.
So, the California government's coddling of PG&E created a situation where a spark from one of their lines (or arson) resulted in a wildfire following a prolonged drought brought on by the global warming created by the decades long coddling of the oil and gas industry? It appears to me that both PG&E and Exxon-Mobil have been exploiting the benefits they enjoy from generous tax breaks and the huge "donations" they both make to the politicians they own.
Justin, yuh seem to miss the obvious: prevention by removing things that burn in proximity to power lines.
Secondly, you continue the lefts focus on power companies and their profits as evil, but fail to acknowledge the fires in LA were in the LADWP service area.
And, lastly, you don’t mention the cost of undergrounding power infrastructure would be born either by the citizenry at large, and or by rate payers. There is no free lunch.
All this leads me to conclude your goal from this article is to obfuscate the underlying issues rather than solve the problem: things burn if you don’t remove them. And if the ignition source isn’t evil corporations, then your fallacy falls apart.
And we're off and running with the no nothings blaming. Evil corporate America and this weeks target the power companies. Any houses that burn any where close to trees and scrub brush is the fault of some power company.
I did not know this was based on ABC's report, but I should have guessed based on its diversionary nature- getting information from ABC is like.........
We just took down a beautiful walnut tree touching our home in a high fire zone. I repainted all the FDC signs where we have water available to the fire department. We have frequent SCE visits to trim trees near power lines, which although invasive outside visits, is reassuring. We have generators in case they do shut off our power ( a frequent event).Why the local mountains are not thinned of dead trees, especially near the urban- woodland interface is baffling, to say the least. Empty reservoirs in LA and failure to build new reservoirs in California make no sense. Bass and Newscum exemplify the politicians posing as problem solvers. And yet, the state squanders billions on benefits for illegals entering the state. It’s time to throw da bums out.
You lost me when you based this on ABC's investigative series. Although some aspects of your causerie is based on truth. The main culprit of this never-ending repeating cycle of preventative devastation is placed solely on the failed policies and directives of our Democrat Politicians, Bureaucrats and aligned Environmental Commissars in Sacramento through the snowballing effect of decades long policies, regulations and ridiculous environmental mandates. The doom loop will continue until the underlying problem is addressed...a complete transformation of the body politic in California and an overhaul of the regulatory state.
…and yet when listening to our elected officials and local media the focus today is not finding solutions and helping our neighbors. No, the hand wringing, grasping at pearls in the alternate “lefty world “ is the deportation of illegal immigrant criminals. Even on our local Channel 3 there was a segment about the tragedy and disruption of mass deportations. Shows where our priorities are.
Correct. It's their classic deflection. I received Salud Carbajal's "emailer" last week parroting your comment regarding the deportations. He, who just voted against the "Laken Riley" Act, put the interests of illegal alien law-breaker criminals over the safety and security of American citizens. It tells you all you need to know about the state of the Democrat Party and the anti-American, Marxist influence that has taken control of it.
Problem-reaction-solution.
True, the ABC story smells like a smokescreen to try and move the blame from where it belongs, Newsom and Bass. CA failed water and forrest management plans are significant contributors to what we have seen. I think as Democrats race to try and protect Newsoms presidential run, which is 'toast', pun intended, we'll find that people don't want politics they want solutions. However the solution will require removing Democrats from power and dismantling the crippling and corrupt regulatory state that is California. Don't even get me started on how CA has driven away insurers, or how fiscally tottering the Ca Fair Plan is, or how CA tries to hide its massive 'unfunded liabilities' from its balance sheets. The jig is up for them, just a matter of time. Even Democrats have had enough.
Yes . . . a _complete_ transformation! Commie-Dems - O-U-T!
EXACTLY - See my post below> CALI INCOMPETENCE & CORRUPTION
ABC did an amazing job over the last 3 years investigating and documenting this topic. I hope people watch it. I did not want to rewrite their report but think it is timely to revisit.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKNx7Usqhw7HEqwbJBEfPMk2HMEnu3VzW&si=9mdR1AHxjXj5ANxi
What if the State Capital of CA is moved from Sacramento further south to a more centralized location in the state, such as Fresno. Do you think that would help any? Bring the politicians to the desert so they only have to focus on all the cacti or would they divert water to the desert instead of the ocean.
I edited the first of his four moving forward bullets. I would hope all of these would be considered across the board. Sadly I think the third one will be the hardest to pull off - not just in CA but everywhere.
Robust Maintenance and Upgrades: Investing in infrastructure..
Transparent Regulation: Ensuring that regulatory bodies operate independently from corporate influence.
Proactive Legislation: Crafting laws that prioritize safety and environmental considerations over immediate economic impacts.
Community and Environmental Resilience: Enhancing natural landscapes to resist fire spread and preparing communities with better evacuation and alert systems.
This article points to very important considerations, but I assert it is myopic, missing the forest fires for burning trees.
Although the political and material considerations of PG and E and much more do matter greatly, there are spiritual and immaterial factors that are the hideous womb of this repeating fiasco. To focus more on PG and E than malevolent actors and ideologies is truly to miss the forest for the trees, and safety isn't first, truth and virtue are first- the very inversion of putting "safety" above all else has led to exponential danger.
Until we recover the spiritual eyes of the mind to see the immaterial factors of these conflagrations, we will continue to try to solve intellectual and moral problems with technical solutions and we will continue down this road to hell blaming "global warming" instead of its true cause.
I think Steven your describing CORRUPTION - EVIL V GOOD
Look no further than the CALI LEADERS.
The temptation to recycle the same "profits before public safety and bought politician" stories is premature and trite. Perhaps Nostradamus could ascribe blame, but as the ashes cool more facts will emerge.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/electrical-tower-focus-eaton-fires-potential-origin-video-clues-emerge-rcna187451
Here is an update from a conservative lawyer on the Eaton Fire.
https://x.com/hamill_law/status/1884106869746327799?s=46
There are so many more points that can be made, I hope people watch this series and connect their own dots.
To me one of the most off-putting characteristics of todays Democrat left is the tendency to reduce everything to narrative before or irrespective of the facts. The fire was caused by global warming or the hurricane was due to global warming have their counterparts in statements like the fire was due to Democrat dolts botching things. Conservatives would better serve their cause by refraining from speaking from ideology and instead reacting from consideration of the facts. Your link is a great example where the headline implies some evidence that power lines were to blame while the body provides no such evidence. We are better than the left but sometimes display the same repulsive qualities.
This one is my favorite because of the connection to the lockdown mandates.
https://youtu.be/W44JkLoiPKs?si=QwOhSGrWJen9yOL7
Have you watched any of this series? https://youtu.be/LS-Bd4UTfSU?si=oVa94P90CpnzqtG3
Systemic failure on so many different levels. Don’t know where to begin. Failure and incompetence in this state appears to be the standard operating procedure. I wonder if jail time would affect the behavior of utility executives? How many more of these disasters can we endure before we have a complete societal and economic meltdown? It’s really sad and disheartening that our state has become the basket case and laughing stock of the world!
Justin, thanks for this, I’m hoping I can find the series! Not sure if they mentioned it but it is my understanding that certain utilities use technology to instantly turn-off the line, before a hot wire hits the ground. More money and less profits but it exists. Really tragic/prayers for our friends in LA
It’s on YouTube, there are a ton of episodes but most are short. This is one of my favorites because The French Laundry comes up. So crazy how many back room deals were made while we were locked up.
https://youtu.be/W44JkLoiPKs?si=78Wg5o2gn49-iFh0
I read this article by Justin Shoers titled "Fire Power Money and How CALI Protects PG&E"
and I provide a new title FIRE POWER & MONEY HOW CALI PROTECTS IT'S IDEOLOGICAL LEADERS"
Today it is Holocaust Memorial Day where Ideological Nazis Almost Destroyed the Entire World>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vIZ0kOpWvw&ab_channel=criminalsandcrimefighters
Michael Shellenberger Describes how So-Called CALI Ideological Leaders Gain Power & Money
at the Expense of their Citizens in the recent LA's Fires weblink>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4JjmzuycRo&ab_channel=DadSavesAmerica
Twenty-Four Killed in LA Fires because of Power, Money and Greed - Look Carefully at the Victims>
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/victims-killed-los-angeles-wildfires/
Twenty-Three Killed in the Monticeto Mudslides from the SB/Ventura Fires Look at the Victims>
https://www.independent.com/2018/01/18/remembering-victims-montecito-mudslides/
The Bel Aire 1961 LA Fire was very Similar to the recent LA and SB Fires with NO ONE KILLED/WHY?
https://la.curbed.com/2017/12/6/16742976/bel-air-fire-history-brentwood-nixon
Could it be that in 1961 the California Leaders were all from the Greatest Generation and even with
no HIGH-TECH Equipment and Detection Systems SAVED AND PROTECTED OUR CITIZENS?
Time for EVERYONE TO WAKE UP.
Only You Can Prevent CALI Incompetence & Corruption.
Howard Walther, Member of A Military Family
During the Palisades fire, some electric fire engines had to return to their stations where it took _10 hours_ to recharge each one.
Electric fire engines - how stupid can ya get?
I am not an apologist for utility companies, historically they are not the best managed organizations. But this analysis fails to mention unfunded mandates as part of the problem. The rate of return the company is allowed to earn is determined by the regulators. The utilities are basically told to shut down their most reliable clean energy, ie nuclear, and invest in unreliable, expensive solar, wind and who knows what else. The companies are then required to meet these mandates as well as invest in traditional infrastructure and maintenance. The regulator is intrinsic to the management of the business but unlike the insurance companies, utilities do not have the option to choose not to provide service to CA. The regulators are hiding the true costs of the future CA liberals allegedly desire.
Points taken. Can anyone imagine being in a business whereby your rates and profit margins are controlled by the government? The state, by virtue of its nutty climate agenda forces you into less efficient, less profitable green technologies. To top it off, you have a hostile union labor force, your business plan has extreme liabilities to which you’re on the hook for billions and EVERYTHING you do is highly regulated by the state. What shareholder wants to sign up for that?
"If you find it, you have to fix it."
So, don't look for what you don't want to see !
Surely the technology exists to underground the power lines or run them in pipelines at ground level... yet another full-employment program that could have been included in the "build back better" infrastructure improvement initiative that never happened.
PF, similar to the running joke of Trump’s “Infrastructure Week”?
during his last term.
Undergrounding, large or small, would cost a fortune. But yeah, it can be done.
So, the California government's coddling of PG&E created a situation where a spark from one of their lines (or arson) resulted in a wildfire following a prolonged drought brought on by the global warming created by the decades long coddling of the oil and gas industry? It appears to me that both PG&E and Exxon-Mobil have been exploiting the benefits they enjoy from generous tax breaks and the huge "donations" they both make to the politicians they own.
Justin, yuh seem to miss the obvious: prevention by removing things that burn in proximity to power lines.
Secondly, you continue the lefts focus on power companies and their profits as evil, but fail to acknowledge the fires in LA were in the LADWP service area.
And, lastly, you don’t mention the cost of undergrounding power infrastructure would be born either by the citizenry at large, and or by rate payers. There is no free lunch.
All this leads me to conclude your goal from this article is to obfuscate the underlying issues rather than solve the problem: things burn if you don’t remove them. And if the ignition source isn’t evil corporations, then your fallacy falls apart.
I didn’t want to just state the obvious; fire breaks, sprinkler systems and controlled burns would be considered “safety” for me.
You failed to mention the Resnick family and their ties to Israel, but considering the bent on this page, I'm not surprised.
It is mentioned
See
S. 2 comment
S. 2. is a commenter. My comment is to Justin's article.
And we're off and running with the no nothings blaming. Evil corporate America and this weeks target the power companies. Any houses that burn any where close to trees and scrub brush is the fault of some power company.
Grow Up.
I did not know this was based on ABC's report, but I should have guessed based on its diversionary nature- getting information from ABC is like.........
We just took down a beautiful walnut tree touching our home in a high fire zone. I repainted all the FDC signs where we have water available to the fire department. We have frequent SCE visits to trim trees near power lines, which although invasive outside visits, is reassuring. We have generators in case they do shut off our power ( a frequent event).Why the local mountains are not thinned of dead trees, especially near the urban- woodland interface is baffling, to say the least. Empty reservoirs in LA and failure to build new reservoirs in California make no sense. Bass and Newscum exemplify the politicians posing as problem solvers. And yet, the state squanders billions on benefits for illegals entering the state. It’s time to throw da bums out.