You know you’re in trouble when politicians are so confident and arrogant that they don’t even have to debate opponents during the election cycle! Think of it, no discussion, no accountability, no having to defend their policies…no problem! That is typically the modus operandi of politics in third world countries!
Why is this? Are conservative values and candidates so inconsequential that NO discussion is ever necessary?
This is all in line with the local Democratic Party machine. Again, much of this I have realized by reading SB Current and speaking with other “closet” conservatives. Yes, the local Dem machine is in lock step with public education, public sector unions, public safety, environmental groups, LGBTQ activist groups, DEI activists, UCSB Student outreach and more. Surprised? I’m not. With backing like this and the political clout that comes with it, how can they ever lose ANY election?
And to think it is Republicans that are the ones being accused of threatening democracy!
If there’s one thing I’ve learned, typically it is liberals which accuse the opposition of EXACTLY what they themselves are engaging in.
LT- We know we are in trouble as taxpayers when 5 of 7 SBCC Trustees are so ‘confident & arrogant’ they hire consultants and put out to bid a $80-$90M PE Building when in deficit spending BEFORE voters pass or DEFEAT Measure P2024. NOPE!
Make note P2024 uses same ballot measure language as V2008 except it EXTENDS taxpayer debt to 2060-61. It fails to mention it also will INCREASE taxpayer debt. In 2008, SBCC was in good financial shape with reserves so its V-bonds were sold at a highly favorable interest rate with savings passed on to taxpayers. Now SBCC is in ‘fiscal crisis’ unable to qualify for a bank loan. Therefore, if voters approve P, its bonds will not be attractive to investor and be sold at a higher rate with this higher cost passed on to property owners.
Will 100,000 eligible District voters prove themselves ignorant or stupid; or prove ourselves unwilling to waste more money on failing SBCC. Vote NO!!!
Wait, what? You think Trump is afraid to debate a blathering imbecile like Harris? Really? Or is it Trump is tired of the game laid out by a feckless, dishonest press, bought and paid for by the DNC?
Thomas, I didn't watch the debate but have seen snippets. I, personally, am not going to change my vote on one debate that the MSM are touting to be a game changer. One has to admit that Trump was in a lion's den, not because of Ms. Harris' brilliance but because there is little doubt that he was outgunned by the media that put the debate together. But if it makes you feel good that your candidate became the darling of the election overnight, enjoy the moment. I guess we will see in November if it really made a difference.
I'm no fan of Harris - but if you think Trump did a great job and the DNC and the press made Trumps performance nose dive we'll agree not to agree on anything.
Ambush? They both got softball questions and most of the time didn't bother even answering the question. The only ambush I saw was Harris making fun of Trumps rallys then he lost his cool and went sideways from what was a good performance. i
Rule changes on the fly. No Harris fact checking her multiple lies. Inaccurate Trump fact checking. ……. shall we continue? Consensus …not science…..it was an ambush.
Tune into the Carlson-Kelly interview. Perception still counts in the final analysis, since it operates on unmeasurable gut levels. As you yourself just admitted.
If you knew you were going to get mugged if you walked into a dark alley would you still walk into that alley? I think not. Trump is sick to death of never getting a fair shake especially when it comes to debates. So how come Kamalamalalalala 😴 refused to have a debate on Fox? Not that they are that much better, but she previously refused to do a debate with any station except ABC. Hmmmm wonder why 🤔
Thomas, why are you here? You have said that you don't like Trump many times already. Are you in love with him? You sure seem to be. You're obsessed with him. Don't you have a hobby? Cooking is one of my hobbies and in the time you pointlessly spent on Trump today I made lunch for my husband and me. I roasted a pheasant (granted they don't take a lot of time, but still) and served it with poached leeks, leftover asparagus, slices of pickled quail eggs, black olives, I had a bit of truffle left in the fridge and shaved it on top, made a roasted garlic preserved lemon and parsley sauce for everything. My husband put on some French cabaret music and we laughed and ate. Then we took a nap. What have you done? If anything you've just made me like Trump more. So what did you accomplish?
What is it with these Trump Tiger Moms like Thomas? They are all over him 24/7. He shoulda done this, he said that, yakkety yak. The thing about Trump is everything they do to defeat him makes him stronger, more popular. After the debate I told my husband he will be more popular - and he is!
I feel that Thomas John listens to the opinions here and gives conservative viewpoints more thoughtful consideration than most Democrat readers of The Current. Thomas John is blinded by the effective character assissanation of Trump by the media. I also feel that Thomas John might get past the superficial and focus on policy that is best for America. Thomas John might change his mind about this election. Isn't that why we are here and why we write?
Between Theo wanting us to go back to a monarchy and Peter and Thomas and Dan talking like those bitches on The View I feel like I need to watch a John Wayne movie or Toshiro Mifune Samurai flick.
I'm here Polly to learn about fiscal matters from folks like Bonnie and JL. And what the GOP used to stand for from writters/commenters like Lou S. I think you only like name calling and like writing a lot - so not so much from you.
Please don't lie ever again here, Thomas. None of us need your lies. And don't project onto me what you are guilty of. Go over what you've written here. It is one snide comment after another about Trump. That is not you learning or discussing fiscal matters. That's you dissing Trump. For the sake of all of us who are here to learn about fiscal matters from folks like Bonnie, shut up about Trump, okay? Your comments about him are divisive and have nothing to do with fiscal matters in Santa Barbara.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣 They never fact checked her but constantly did it to Trump. How about late-term abortions? She said they don't happen. That was a lie. She said that Haitians aren't doing anything to pets or other small animals. That's another lie. All she did was lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie and they never called her on it. Yeah, softball. Mmmmkay 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So you only want to know more about the pets? The abortions... KILLING FULL TERM, 9-MONTH-OLD BABIES, doesn't interest you? You can find out anything you want by doing your own research. I don't care if it was Canton, New Orleans, or Timbuktu, she lied. About a lot of things. In fact, pretty much all she did was lie. There's nothing you're ever going to say that's going to change my vote for Trump. I saw three against one for that debate and all it did was further commit my vote to Trump.
Dan, search for Clark County communication detail report call # 24-083568. Report with vehicle description, four Haitian each with one goose. Listed as Larceny. Of course in the world of fake news you never know, although this goose-grabbing report was also filed well before the debate.
Absence of evidence reported in an investigation never proves the absence of fact. Except in the Democrat world of two systems of justice. The story has legs so updates will continue.
There is trouble in River City, Dan. that is the message you want to ignore. Quibbling also will be entertained whether geese qualify as pets.
Peter: I firmly believe Trump has been negatively affected by the shooting incident and that it will take some time for him to "heal" (though I hate to use that term). Yes, he certainly wasn't at his best, but I've always wondered what good it would do to "debate" someone who refuses to say anything of substance and merely tosses insult bombs. He tried defending himself and then firing back but apparently gave it up as a lost cause until his closing statement. I wish he had done a better job but I maintain Kamala showed more of what she is than she wanted to and because of that failed to advance her position with both "independents" and "undecided" voters. I'd call it a draw.
Given the level of your comments about Trump I feel like I'm watching The View. And then there's Theo, the Carlist, who wants us all to go back to a monarchy. I'm so glad there are such practical men talking about the future of this great city. You know, Bonnie goes to a helluva lotta trouble to try to educate you dudes.
I don’t know why they called it a debate - “A discussion between two or more people where opposing arguments address specific topics.” There was no ‘discussion between 2 people . . ‘ They both just presented their responses to questions from the moderators and barely looked at each other - no give-and-take at all.
Is there some restriction for the candidates not being able to talk to each other? I thought Trump should have turned to Harris after a cursory answer to the moderator’s question, told her he had 90 seconds left, asked her a question & _demanded_ an answer.
Public sector union member employees run the County Election Office too. They get to call the balls and strikes. Volunteer observers providing legal oversight for this 2024 election are a critical duty for us all. Respond when called.
REMEMBER, non-citizens can vote in CA including POTUS elections. Captive CA Public School Students are registered in their 11th grade classrooms. WHY? Because it’s unlawful to ask any public school student their citizenship status.
What’s critical is signature verification and provisional ballot oversight . Observe for yourself corruption, collusion firsthand, poll watch at UCSB; then try to be “allowed” as a citizen to observe how ballots commingled, and counted. CA is lost; so goes country of Cabal Harris wins.
To make Montecito93108 point about registering students, read this column to the bottom, where they will have multiple events to register all the students at SBCC campus!!!! Only locals should vote here, the rest should absentee vote where they are from.
SBCC will register students here to ensure they receive 2 ballots to vote twice. SB County does not remove registered voters. My kids got a ballot mailed to them in Santa Batbara, and a ballot mailed to them at their college address because each registered to vote in their new State of residency.
"Think of it, no discussion, no accountability, no having to defend their policies…no problem! That is typically the modus operandi of politics in third world countries!
Why is this? Are conservative values and candidates so inconsequential that NO discussion is ever necessary?"
I mean you seem unwilling to defend your conservative beliefs against my Carlist criticisms... as much as you speak of honest debate you consistently deflect against my arguments - in fact I recall saying my beliefs on sexual morality are irrelevant because of my youth...
"Otro monarca el trono usurpó La democracia en nuestra patria entró, rompiendo los
cimientos de nuestra tradición La democracia en nuestra patria entró, rompiendo los cimientos de nuestra tradición
De nuestras leyes Dios desapareció, Y la familia desunida quedó
Pornografía, drogas y corrupción, los tiranos creyeron ganar la situación
Pornografía, drogas y corrupción, los tiranos creyéron ganar la situación"
Give it a break Teko, you’re probably late by now for Confession, but if you hurry you can probably make it! And BTW, I’m not interested in debating YOUR beliefs because I really don’t care! So, go ahead and say 3 Hail Mary’s and move on!
You're engaging in the exact same mannerisms that Salud Carbajal, you don't want to debate because you either cannot or simply don't want to providing a legitimate rebuttal to genuine criticisms. I will not give it a break, and if you persist engaging in "the hpyocrisy of the left" then you should fully expect me to call such behavior out as you have done to liberals
You cannot expect people to take you seriously, let alone the liberals you're critical of when you can't act out your own beliefs. Being inconsistent and dismissive while calling out others for the same only undermines your credibility.
My harshness is uncalled for, but the core of my argument is that LT engages in the same dismissive and even mocking rhetoric liberals/leftists do, despite decrying this behavior himself. I should refrain from cruel and uncharitable words, but I should never refrain from holding people to their own standards, why should I be content with LT calling out behavior in others which he consistently dishes out to me.
No Teko, I am not interested in debating you on the “bright spot” for the brutal, murderous campaign of Francisco Franco and the Carlist against the people of Spain, whereby public executions were common!
Thank you Bonnie for the informative article. Once again, I learned of issues I would have not known about if not for SB Current! Admittedly, I’ve learned more about SBCC in the last 30 days, than I have in the last 30 years! What I’ve learned is not good. Seems our public institution is rife with mismanagement, possible fraud, misappropriation of public funds and a DEI nightmare. Again, I ask the question; where is our SB Grand Jury and District Attorney in probing these and other issues? Enormous credit needs to go to those who are painstakingly asking the difficult questions and exposing corruption and misuse of public trust.
NO on Measure P! Enough is enough, we need accountability now!
Santa Barbara has only a CIVIL Grand Jury. If after a thorough case review, jurors decide it’s a criminal matter, the case is sent to the D.A. Office. If case is K-14 school related, the referral is DOA: Dead on Arrival. The depth of the relationship between DA Office and K-14 public schools is conflicted (to say the least). There’s no possibility for a DA investigation or charges of a Grand Jury referred K-14 case in Santa Barbara County. Que sera. Locals are complicit living well in the ‘Paradise Bubble’. School bonds are easy to skim.
Thank you, Bonnie. There is a real FU attitude of our local government where we, the taxpayers, are concerned. Their behavior has gone from merely disgustingly corrupt to psychotically abusive.
You know way more than I do about the inner workings of our local government. So I'm probably wrong in saying I don't think it's just that they feel they can't be voted out. I think they don't want to debate because things might come out that would land them in jail. Or put out of power by the current leaders of their own party.
The people who are running our country are engaged in a behind the scenes battle for power among themselves. And what kinds of threats are they making towards the likes of Salud and Monique?
At any rate, it looks like they're determined to get WWIII going before the election anyway. All the people here who hate Putin and think he's the dangerous aggressor should ask themselves why, if he's so dangerous, we're putting him in a position where the only course of action he'll have will be to attack us back.
Because that's when our taxes will be raised yet once again. Our local government will demand bomb shelters. Not for us, of course. For them. But maybe those offshore wind farms they love will defend us all.
The smell of free government cheese is irresistible. There are always people willing to commit fraud to enrich themselves with easy government cash. It happened with covid relief money, it regularly happens with Medicare and now it is happening with student loan money. It is ironic that SBCC has remaining covid cash to help relieve a self inflicted financial wound. The covid salve being designed to heal another self inflicted wound. To the Democrat party, money heals all and there is believed to be an unlimited supply that can be either printed or confiscated from the useful productivity of the citizen. It seems that we are riding the carousel of financial ruin where government mismanagement and fraud is addressed with more government miasmanagement and fraud. The obvious solution is to defund the government but neither party has shown any willingness to reduce the size of government. At least the Republicans talk about it during campaign season while the Democrats talk about more government. In the end we get ever bigger government. I just want go away and hide until I die.
Wait. Why are students receiving money? My brother, who is homeless and alcoholic, took advantage of this a couple years ago, bragging he would take “underwater basket weaving or whatever” to get the $10k. I advised him to at least clean and cut his fingernails cuz he looked like a wild animal. He didn’t really appreciate that. I’m assuming he got the $$ but I don’t really know. Is everything these days poorly managed???
Notice how it’s every where & it’s multi millions. City, County, SBCC
It’s the American way! Go into debt then increase taxes
Our government has set a great financial example to its citizens & youth. Go into debt then default. Blame others, take no responsibility.
Welcome to America! Where money grows on trees. American spends $150 Billion/year on Illegal Aliens
Meanwhile only $10 Billion/year is what homeless American Citizens are budgeted.
Seriously people, stop paying taxes. Stop funding the criminal activities of the government. You are supporting criminal activities and wreckless fiscal policies.
I have only taken one loan in my life for the purchase my first home and played it off when Bill Clinton was soiling a blue dress. My parents did not teach this and I don't know from where it came. I have not really benefited from my restraint. Although high interest rates are demonized as a financial plague low interest rates result in a economy built on debt. As long as rates stay low, highly leveraged portfolios are rewarded while the financially responsible enjoy middling returns. When interest rates are high the reverse obtains. Long live high interest rates.
NB: this is just the list of the current fiscal-year public debt we are now seeing reported - state, city, SBCC.
The looming trillion dollars of unfunded state public pension liabilities hangs around our children’s neck on top of this current debt we are being asked to bail out. With nary of even a promise by these current elected official to change their ways.
Be sure what your children are seeing right now the burden of paying off this public debts (tax and spend even more) is now their sole future inheritance. Is this really how they want to spend their own lives?
Thanks again for the local insight Bonnie. I’ve voted NO on all tax measures for 30 years — knowing that everything is rigged…local, state, federal, and international measures, laws, agreements, treaties, et al…EVERYTHING IS RIGGED!!!
There was the move to "fund" all students at SBCC and the school pressured stand alone scholarship groups to fund the school fund. More then one group has declined and no longer fund SBCC students.
There is an unfair advantage the SBCC administration has used with what appears to be ongoing and expanding propaganda to support a failing institution. Perhaps they should get advice and money from the idiots that have closed State Street and call it s "vibrant success" (need any swamp land?).
How much longer can SBCC survive with auto transfer to the UC system with a failed academic system that passes on unprepared students?
Why would Limon - Hart or others want to debate when the people are being hurt the worst are too busy commuting to jobs (yes cars), spend full days working, come home and then work on making their families successful? It would appear that the incumbents are too impaired with power then making sure the debates that clear the air with voters are held.
The incompetency in our Government is (frankly) embarrassing. However, beyond that is the waste of taxpayer monies. Somehow Government has come to believe they have unlimited income to spend however they please. The taxpayer public needs to "set them straight". Extreme liberals such as Salud Carbajal et.al. need to be fired as soon as possible. Our "ships" need new Captains, and we need to set a course back to sound fiscal harbor. Vote these Libtards out of office. Vote Republican or Libertarian...just stop voting in the progressive left.
My hope is that should Mr. "No Debate" Carbajal ever be ousted (a long shot for sure but one never knows), that his replacement refuses to "debate" or even acknowledge Salud in any format. That a U.S. representative of "all the people" can so easily dismiss his legitimate opponent is unconscionable and certainly anti-democratic.
Just my idea to cut the Gordian knot.. get right to the heart of the matter. Hire an attorney, like Johnathan McGee and file a case against SBCC trustees and against Fund for SBCC.. do it in a week-asap
Hire attorney to research and file a lawsuit in state court alleging that:
1) SBCC should not be able to appropriate, ask for, grift or otherwise apply for any new bond funds because,
1.2) SBCC trustees have failed and are continuing to fail in their legally stated mission to the community, to provide education for local tax paying students. And instead is catering to foreign students, foreign nationals, illegal aliens, causing severe housing shortages for local residents and local students, all for the financial gain of the college admins, and to the detriment of the community that funds this institution for local students.
2) SBCC is in violation of bond law by using taxpayer funds to create a bond and fund the campaign for that bond, a clear conflict of CA bond doctrine, CA education codes and law and administrative law and contract law..and that using a college affiliated 501C3 (Foundation for SBCC) to fund and advertise a bond initiative is illegal, unethical and in violation of non profit rules including IRS rules.
3) The college has created a hostile and toxic environment against any and all staff and admin personnel and students, who do not rubber stamp and agree with the majority narrative, that of increasing fees, forcing bond issues onto the ballot, forced gender studies, anti white studies, anti religious studies and other political indoctrination of students.
4) Ask the court to place on hold any bond election results, any funding, any tax collections for this illegally propositioned bond, due to the aforementioned violations, ethical lapses, financial misappropriations by SBCC Trustees. And have judge investigate and pull their 501 status through the IRS.
There I just saved us $8,000, and put measure P on indefinite hold.
Last night, 9/12/24, SBCC President Jonathan Abboud awarded newly hired SBCC Superintendent Erika Endrijonas a “Ten Year Recognition” for her service. What? Erika, the self proclaimed bond expert, has only been here a year. Hmmm… Oh, we get it: the award will create headlines for a press release to help gain passage of Measure P2024. Fake news. Plus, last time I checked longevity awards get a stipend, too. To my knowledge Peter MacDougall never got this recognition after 31 years building SBCC into a nationally recognized and awarded community college. Due to the incompetence of 5 of 7 trustees mismanaging SBCC, it is now not even ranked in the Top 77 in CA. It’s #1 ranking is for location, nothing more.
SBCC is "Santa Barbara Community College:" the inclusion of "community" indicates it is to serve the "community" of Santa Barbara. The title is not "California" or "international" college. To protect, and serve, Santa Barbara residents, there should be strict quotas on admitting all others.
Any new funding is premature unless, and until, there records are cleaned up as to do otherwise would be to reward , and encourage, incompetence.
When you have no policies economic or otherwise, you have no leg to stand, hence you don't debate, leat you get exposed as an empty suit. The Republicans are being too nice. That has been the problem all along. The Republican candidates need to DEMAND debates, not just capitulate to no debates. After all, the Dems never ever capitulate on their stances, so why the Republicans always cave in is beyond me. Being too nice does not get you anywhere. And we're seeing the fall out of the Republicans constantly giving in to Democrats and it is highly toxic.
What we are learning here is how quickly they fade once the do get pushback. They are little more than insults, lies and fury, ultimately signifying nothing. Yet their inside game is still embedded and powerful. Action to kick them out of office is the next step; not argument.
The Silent Majority will win this game, because we fund them. We chose whether to keep paying them to do this to us, or not. There is now a perfect storm of goverment debt at every level. The goodwill of “The Commons” has been irrovocably been lost.
Today we vote with both our ballots and our pocketbooks. Democrats put themselves to full vulnerability now. Losing both registrations and revenues. No wonder they act like cornered animals today.
You know you’re in trouble when politicians are so confident and arrogant that they don’t even have to debate opponents during the election cycle! Think of it, no discussion, no accountability, no having to defend their policies…no problem! That is typically the modus operandi of politics in third world countries!
Why is this? Are conservative values and candidates so inconsequential that NO discussion is ever necessary?
This is all in line with the local Democratic Party machine. Again, much of this I have realized by reading SB Current and speaking with other “closet” conservatives. Yes, the local Dem machine is in lock step with public education, public sector unions, public safety, environmental groups, LGBTQ activist groups, DEI activists, UCSB Student outreach and more. Surprised? I’m not. With backing like this and the political clout that comes with it, how can they ever lose ANY election?
And to think it is Republicans that are the ones being accused of threatening democracy!
If there’s one thing I’ve learned, typically it is liberals which accuse the opposition of EXACTLY what they themselves are engaging in.
LT- We know we are in trouble as taxpayers when 5 of 7 SBCC Trustees are so ‘confident & arrogant’ they hire consultants and put out to bid a $80-$90M PE Building when in deficit spending BEFORE voters pass or DEFEAT Measure P2024. NOPE!
Make note P2024 uses same ballot measure language as V2008 except it EXTENDS taxpayer debt to 2060-61. It fails to mention it also will INCREASE taxpayer debt. In 2008, SBCC was in good financial shape with reserves so its V-bonds were sold at a highly favorable interest rate with savings passed on to taxpayers. Now SBCC is in ‘fiscal crisis’ unable to qualify for a bank loan. Therefore, if voters approve P, its bonds will not be attractive to investor and be sold at a higher rate with this higher cost passed on to property owners.
Will 100,000 eligible District voters prove themselves ignorant or stupid; or prove ourselves unwilling to waste more money on failing SBCC. Vote NO!!!
Discipline Trustees. volunteer, contribute NoP4SBCC@gmail.com
LT - I'm confused. Are you talking about Dem politicians not debating - or Trump refusing a second debate with Harris?
TJ,
Wait, what? You think Trump is afraid to debate a blathering imbecile like Harris? Really? Or is it Trump is tired of the game laid out by a feckless, dishonest press, bought and paid for by the DNC?
Honestly Bruh, try to ask more serious questions.
Bruh? I think even he knows his was a poor showing.
The dishonest press is making that all up?
Did they use AI to alter his performance on Tuesday night? The dogs and cats stuff was computer generated?
Thomas, I didn't watch the debate but have seen snippets. I, personally, am not going to change my vote on one debate that the MSM are touting to be a game changer. One has to admit that Trump was in a lion's den, not because of Ms. Harris' brilliance but because there is little doubt that he was outgunned by the media that put the debate together. But if it makes you feel good that your candidate became the darling of the election overnight, enjoy the moment. I guess we will see in November if it really made a difference.
Was the “fine people” lie computer generated?
The dishonest press is making it all up. Welcome to the national reality check. You are late to he party.
I'm no fan of Harris - but if you think Trump did a great job and the DNC and the press made Trumps performance nose dive we'll agree not to agree on anything.
There is no point walking into another Big Media ambush. Trump shows leadership by walking away. They played their hand. They lost. Game’s over.
Ambush? They both got softball questions and most of the time didn't bother even answering the question. The only ambush I saw was Harris making fun of Trumps rallys then he lost his cool and went sideways from what was a good performance. i
Rule changes on the fly. No Harris fact checking her multiple lies. Inaccurate Trump fact checking. ……. shall we continue? Consensus …not science…..it was an ambush.
Tune into the Carlson-Kelly interview. Perception still counts in the final analysis, since it operates on unmeasurable gut levels. As you yourself just admitted.
If you knew you were going to get mugged if you walked into a dark alley would you still walk into that alley? I think not. Trump is sick to death of never getting a fair shake especially when it comes to debates. So how come Kamalamalalalala 😴 refused to have a debate on Fox? Not that they are that much better, but she previously refused to do a debate with any station except ABC. Hmmmm wonder why 🤔
AKA……takes on a new definition. Power of sisterhood.
Dark Alley? ABC news with two softball moderators? Wow.
Even if it was Rachel Madow on MSNBC you think Trump could handle himself.
Thomas, why are you here? You have said that you don't like Trump many times already. Are you in love with him? You sure seem to be. You're obsessed with him. Don't you have a hobby? Cooking is one of my hobbies and in the time you pointlessly spent on Trump today I made lunch for my husband and me. I roasted a pheasant (granted they don't take a lot of time, but still) and served it with poached leeks, leftover asparagus, slices of pickled quail eggs, black olives, I had a bit of truffle left in the fridge and shaved it on top, made a roasted garlic preserved lemon and parsley sauce for everything. My husband put on some French cabaret music and we laughed and ate. Then we took a nap. What have you done? If anything you've just made me like Trump more. So what did you accomplish?
Looks like you caught Tommy boy with the Pollygraph Lie Detector ! :)
Pheasant, asparagus, pickled quail eggs, . . . for lunch ? ? Wow - please adopt me !
What is it with these Trump Tiger Moms like Thomas? They are all over him 24/7. He shoulda done this, he said that, yakkety yak. The thing about Trump is everything they do to defeat him makes him stronger, more popular. After the debate I told my husband he will be more popular - and he is!
I feel that Thomas John listens to the opinions here and gives conservative viewpoints more thoughtful consideration than most Democrat readers of The Current. Thomas John is blinded by the effective character assissanation of Trump by the media. I also feel that Thomas John might get past the superficial and focus on policy that is best for America. Thomas John might change his mind about this election. Isn't that why we are here and why we write?
Between Theo wanting us to go back to a monarchy and Peter and Thomas and Dan talking like those bitches on The View I feel like I need to watch a John Wayne movie or Toshiro Mifune Samurai flick.
I'm here Polly to learn about fiscal matters from folks like Bonnie and JL. And what the GOP used to stand for from writters/commenters like Lou S. I think you only like name calling and like writing a lot - so not so much from you.
Please don't lie ever again here, Thomas. None of us need your lies. And don't project onto me what you are guilty of. Go over what you've written here. It is one snide comment after another about Trump. That is not you learning or discussing fiscal matters. That's you dissing Trump. For the sake of all of us who are here to learn about fiscal matters from folks like Bonnie, shut up about Trump, okay? Your comments about him are divisive and have nothing to do with fiscal matters in Santa Barbara.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣 They never fact checked her but constantly did it to Trump. How about late-term abortions? She said they don't happen. That was a lie. She said that Haitians aren't doing anything to pets or other small animals. That's another lie. All she did was lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie and they never called her on it. Yeah, softball. Mmmmkay 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Okay, I'm curious to know your source for the Haitians stealing pets? Or should I quote Trump, word for word, "I saw it on television!!"
So you only want to know more about the pets? The abortions... KILLING FULL TERM, 9-MONTH-OLD BABIES, doesn't interest you? You can find out anything you want by doing your own research. I don't care if it was Canton, New Orleans, or Timbuktu, she lied. About a lot of things. In fact, pretty much all she did was lie. There's nothing you're ever going to say that's going to change my vote for Trump. I saw three against one for that debate and all it did was further commit my vote to Trump.
Filed police report with photos surfaced. Depends on your definition of pets?
Dan, search for Clark County communication detail report call # 24-083568. Report with vehicle description, four Haitian each with one goose. Listed as Larceny. Of course in the world of fake news you never know, although this goose-grabbing report was also filed well before the debate.
Absence of evidence reported in an investigation never proves the absence of fact. Except in the Democrat world of two systems of justice. The story has legs so updates will continue.
There is trouble in River City, Dan. that is the message you want to ignore. Quibbling also will be entertained whether geese qualify as pets.
Evidently, he was unable to keep his composure. I’m sure his debate prep people tried their best.
Peter: I firmly believe Trump has been negatively affected by the shooting incident and that it will take some time for him to "heal" (though I hate to use that term). Yes, he certainly wasn't at his best, but I've always wondered what good it would do to "debate" someone who refuses to say anything of substance and merely tosses insult bombs. He tried defending himself and then firing back but apparently gave it up as a lost cause until his closing statement. I wish he had done a better job but I maintain Kamala showed more of what she is than she wanted to and because of that failed to advance her position with both "independents" and "undecided" voters. I'd call it a draw.
Sure sign of a great negotiator. Loose your cool after someone mocking your crowd size.
Given the level of your comments about Trump I feel like I'm watching The View. And then there's Theo, the Carlist, who wants us all to go back to a monarchy. I'm so glad there are such practical men talking about the future of this great city. You know, Bonnie goes to a helluva lotta trouble to try to educate you dudes.
Peter, Anger is an appropriate response. Which is why so many people claim “Trump speaks for us”……….the Silenced Majority.
I don’t know why they called it a debate - “A discussion between two or more people where opposing arguments address specific topics.” There was no ‘discussion between 2 people . . ‘ They both just presented their responses to questions from the moderators and barely looked at each other - no give-and-take at all.
Is there some restriction for the candidates not being able to talk to each other? I thought Trump should have turned to Harris after a cursory answer to the moderator’s question, told her he had 90 seconds left, asked her a question & _demanded_ an answer.
Earl, the Democrats make their own rules, and You are correct it's not a debate.
Was it a _rule_ Bon Bon? The debate contestants couldn’t attack each other? That’s no fun!
YEP, and how cut the mic came into play!!!
Public sector union member employees run the County Election Office too. They get to call the balls and strikes. Volunteer observers providing legal oversight for this 2024 election are a critical duty for us all. Respond when called.
REMEMBER, non-citizens can vote in CA including POTUS elections. Captive CA Public School Students are registered in their 11th grade classrooms. WHY? Because it’s unlawful to ask any public school student their citizenship status.
What’s critical is signature verification and provisional ballot oversight . Observe for yourself corruption, collusion firsthand, poll watch at UCSB; then try to be “allowed” as a citizen to observe how ballots commingled, and counted. CA is lost; so goes country of Cabal Harris wins.
To make Montecito93108 point about registering students, read this column to the bottom, where they will have multiple events to register all the students at SBCC campus!!!! Only locals should vote here, the rest should absentee vote where they are from.
https://www.thechannels.org/news/2024/09/13/student-senate-approves-tentative-budget-amid-financial-challenges/
SBCC will register students here to ensure they receive 2 ballots to vote twice. SB County does not remove registered voters. My kids got a ballot mailed to them in Santa Batbara, and a ballot mailed to them at their college address because each registered to vote in their new State of residency.
"Think of it, no discussion, no accountability, no having to defend their policies…no problem! That is typically the modus operandi of politics in third world countries!
Why is this? Are conservative values and candidates so inconsequential that NO discussion is ever necessary?"
I mean you seem unwilling to defend your conservative beliefs against my Carlist criticisms... as much as you speak of honest debate you consistently deflect against my arguments - in fact I recall saying my beliefs on sexual morality are irrelevant because of my youth...
"Otro monarca el trono usurpó La democracia en nuestra patria entró, rompiendo los
cimientos de nuestra tradición La democracia en nuestra patria entró, rompiendo los cimientos de nuestra tradición
De nuestras leyes Dios desapareció, Y la familia desunida quedó
Pornografía, drogas y corrupción, los tiranos creyeron ganar la situación
Pornografía, drogas y corrupción, los tiranos creyéron ganar la situación"
Give it a break Teko, you’re probably late by now for Confession, but if you hurry you can probably make it! And BTW, I’m not interested in debating YOUR beliefs because I really don’t care! So, go ahead and say 3 Hail Mary’s and move on!
You're engaging in the exact same mannerisms that Salud Carbajal, you don't want to debate because you either cannot or simply don't want to providing a legitimate rebuttal to genuine criticisms. I will not give it a break, and if you persist engaging in "the hpyocrisy of the left" then you should fully expect me to call such behavior out as you have done to liberals
You cannot expect people to take you seriously, let alone the liberals you're critical of when you can't act out your own beliefs. Being inconsistent and dismissive while calling out others for the same only undermines your credibility.
Uncalled for, TA. We are just faceless electrons here……communicating .
My harshness is uncalled for, but the core of my argument is that LT engages in the same dismissive and even mocking rhetoric liberals/leftists do, despite decrying this behavior himself. I should refrain from cruel and uncharitable words, but I should never refrain from holding people to their own standards, why should I be content with LT calling out behavior in others which he consistently dishes out to me.
No Teko, I am not interested in debating you on the “bright spot” for the brutal, murderous campaign of Francisco Franco and the Carlist against the people of Spain, whereby public executions were common!
Thank you Bonnie for the informative article. Once again, I learned of issues I would have not known about if not for SB Current! Admittedly, I’ve learned more about SBCC in the last 30 days, than I have in the last 30 years! What I’ve learned is not good. Seems our public institution is rife with mismanagement, possible fraud, misappropriation of public funds and a DEI nightmare. Again, I ask the question; where is our SB Grand Jury and District Attorney in probing these and other issues? Enormous credit needs to go to those who are painstakingly asking the difficult questions and exposing corruption and misuse of public trust.
NO on Measure P! Enough is enough, we need accountability now!
Santa Barbara has only a CIVIL Grand Jury. If after a thorough case review, jurors decide it’s a criminal matter, the case is sent to the D.A. Office. If case is K-14 school related, the referral is DOA: Dead on Arrival. The depth of the relationship between DA Office and K-14 public schools is conflicted (to say the least). There’s no possibility for a DA investigation or charges of a Grand Jury referred K-14 case in Santa Barbara County. Que sera. Locals are complicit living well in the ‘Paradise Bubble’. School bonds are easy to skim.
Thank you, Bonnie. There is a real FU attitude of our local government where we, the taxpayers, are concerned. Their behavior has gone from merely disgustingly corrupt to psychotically abusive.
You know way more than I do about the inner workings of our local government. So I'm probably wrong in saying I don't think it's just that they feel they can't be voted out. I think they don't want to debate because things might come out that would land them in jail. Or put out of power by the current leaders of their own party.
The people who are running our country are engaged in a behind the scenes battle for power among themselves. And what kinds of threats are they making towards the likes of Salud and Monique?
At any rate, it looks like they're determined to get WWIII going before the election anyway. All the people here who hate Putin and think he's the dangerous aggressor should ask themselves why, if he's so dangerous, we're putting him in a position where the only course of action he'll have will be to attack us back.
Because that's when our taxes will be raised yet once again. Our local government will demand bomb shelters. Not for us, of course. For them. But maybe those offshore wind farms they love will defend us all.
The smell of free government cheese is irresistible. There are always people willing to commit fraud to enrich themselves with easy government cash. It happened with covid relief money, it regularly happens with Medicare and now it is happening with student loan money. It is ironic that SBCC has remaining covid cash to help relieve a self inflicted financial wound. The covid salve being designed to heal another self inflicted wound. To the Democrat party, money heals all and there is believed to be an unlimited supply that can be either printed or confiscated from the useful productivity of the citizen. It seems that we are riding the carousel of financial ruin where government mismanagement and fraud is addressed with more government miasmanagement and fraud. The obvious solution is to defund the government but neither party has shown any willingness to reduce the size of government. At least the Republicans talk about it during campaign season while the Democrats talk about more government. In the end we get ever bigger government. I just want go away and hide until I die.
Repeal 16th Amendment. For a start.
Wait. Why are students receiving money? My brother, who is homeless and alcoholic, took advantage of this a couple years ago, bragging he would take “underwater basket weaving or whatever” to get the $10k. I advised him to at least clean and cut his fingernails cuz he looked like a wild animal. He didn’t really appreciate that. I’m assuming he got the $$ but I don’t really know. Is everything these days poorly managed???
Debt.
Notice how it’s every where & it’s multi millions. City, County, SBCC
It’s the American way! Go into debt then increase taxes
Our government has set a great financial example to its citizens & youth. Go into debt then default. Blame others, take no responsibility.
Welcome to America! Where money grows on trees. American spends $150 Billion/year on Illegal Aliens
Meanwhile only $10 Billion/year is what homeless American Citizens are budgeted.
Seriously people, stop paying taxes. Stop funding the criminal activities of the government. You are supporting criminal activities and wreckless fiscal policies.
Instead donate your money to local charities.
I have only taken one loan in my life for the purchase my first home and played it off when Bill Clinton was soiling a blue dress. My parents did not teach this and I don't know from where it came. I have not really benefited from my restraint. Although high interest rates are demonized as a financial plague low interest rates result in a economy built on debt. As long as rates stay low, highly leveraged portfolios are rewarded while the financially responsible enjoy middling returns. When interest rates are high the reverse obtains. Long live high interest rates.
NB: this is just the list of the current fiscal-year public debt we are now seeing reported - state, city, SBCC.
The looming trillion dollars of unfunded state public pension liabilities hangs around our children’s neck on top of this current debt we are being asked to bail out. With nary of even a promise by these current elected official to change their ways.
Be sure what your children are seeing right now the burden of paying off this public debts (tax and spend even more) is now their sole future inheritance. Is this really how they want to spend their own lives?
Tune in to SB CURRENT tomorrow morning to prove your point J.L.
Anyone who votes for an incumbent in this election: you can just tattoo “sTuOpiDd” on your chin. Don’t forget to support your local businesses.
Thanks again for the local insight Bonnie. I’ve voted NO on all tax measures for 30 years — knowing that everything is rigged…local, state, federal, and international measures, laws, agreements, treaties, et al…EVERYTHING IS RIGGED!!!
https://x.com/repthomasmassie/status/1834590540643401743?s=61
The bots at SBCC are a very disturbing item. If these fraudulent "students" are here, then they are in every college all over the country.
Who is discussing ending Prop 13 benefits? I have heard rumors but not entity is named.
Salud Carbajal hates taking difficult questions. All candidates in all elections should be Required to debate registered opponents.
John Richards
Dear JR We are sending this message out to 4,000 district people a day… feel free to forward it. https://youtu.be/g_4gNToEWfk
There was the move to "fund" all students at SBCC and the school pressured stand alone scholarship groups to fund the school fund. More then one group has declined and no longer fund SBCC students.
There is an unfair advantage the SBCC administration has used with what appears to be ongoing and expanding propaganda to support a failing institution. Perhaps they should get advice and money from the idiots that have closed State Street and call it s "vibrant success" (need any swamp land?).
How much longer can SBCC survive with auto transfer to the UC system with a failed academic system that passes on unprepared students?
Why would Limon - Hart or others want to debate when the people are being hurt the worst are too busy commuting to jobs (yes cars), spend full days working, come home and then work on making their families successful? It would appear that the incumbents are too impaired with power then making sure the debates that clear the air with voters are held.
How much longer?
Dears Cars.. we are blasting this message countywide.. feel free to forward at will. Tc
https://youtu.be/g_4gNToEWfk
The incompetency in our Government is (frankly) embarrassing. However, beyond that is the waste of taxpayer monies. Somehow Government has come to believe they have unlimited income to spend however they please. The taxpayer public needs to "set them straight". Extreme liberals such as Salud Carbajal et.al. need to be fired as soon as possible. Our "ships" need new Captains, and we need to set a course back to sound fiscal harbor. Vote these Libtards out of office. Vote Republican or Libertarian...just stop voting in the progressive left.
My hope is that should Mr. "No Debate" Carbajal ever be ousted (a long shot for sure but one never knows), that his replacement refuses to "debate" or even acknowledge Salud in any format. That a U.S. representative of "all the people" can so easily dismiss his legitimate opponent is unconscionable and certainly anti-democratic.
Read tomorrow's column! :)
I will!
Cole on Prop P
Just my idea to cut the Gordian knot.. get right to the heart of the matter. Hire an attorney, like Johnathan McGee and file a case against SBCC trustees and against Fund for SBCC.. do it in a week-asap
Hire attorney to research and file a lawsuit in state court alleging that:
1) SBCC should not be able to appropriate, ask for, grift or otherwise apply for any new bond funds because,
1.2) SBCC trustees have failed and are continuing to fail in their legally stated mission to the community, to provide education for local tax paying students. And instead is catering to foreign students, foreign nationals, illegal aliens, causing severe housing shortages for local residents and local students, all for the financial gain of the college admins, and to the detriment of the community that funds this institution for local students.
2) SBCC is in violation of bond law by using taxpayer funds to create a bond and fund the campaign for that bond, a clear conflict of CA bond doctrine, CA education codes and law and administrative law and contract law..and that using a college affiliated 501C3 (Foundation for SBCC) to fund and advertise a bond initiative is illegal, unethical and in violation of non profit rules including IRS rules.
3) The college has created a hostile and toxic environment against any and all staff and admin personnel and students, who do not rubber stamp and agree with the majority narrative, that of increasing fees, forcing bond issues onto the ballot, forced gender studies, anti white studies, anti religious studies and other political indoctrination of students.
4) Ask the court to place on hold any bond election results, any funding, any tax collections for this illegally propositioned bond, due to the aforementioned violations, ethical lapses, financial misappropriations by SBCC Trustees. And have judge investigate and pull their 501 status through the IRS.
There I just saved us $8,000, and put measure P on indefinite hold.
T. Cole
Last night, 9/12/24, SBCC President Jonathan Abboud awarded newly hired SBCC Superintendent Erika Endrijonas a “Ten Year Recognition” for her service. What? Erika, the self proclaimed bond expert, has only been here a year. Hmmm… Oh, we get it: the award will create headlines for a press release to help gain passage of Measure P2024. Fake news. Plus, last time I checked longevity awards get a stipend, too. To my knowledge Peter MacDougall never got this recognition after 31 years building SBCC into a nationally recognized and awarded community college. Due to the incompetence of 5 of 7 trustees mismanaging SBCC, it is now not even ranked in the Top 77 in CA. It’s #1 ranking is for location, nothing more.
SBCC is "Santa Barbara Community College:" the inclusion of "community" indicates it is to serve the "community" of Santa Barbara. The title is not "California" or "international" college. To protect, and serve, Santa Barbara residents, there should be strict quotas on admitting all others.
Any new funding is premature unless, and until, there records are cleaned up as to do otherwise would be to reward , and encourage, incompetence.
We live in a clown world
We vote in clown world.
Voting and modernist ideas brought about clown world.
When you have no policies economic or otherwise, you have no leg to stand, hence you don't debate, leat you get exposed as an empty suit. The Republicans are being too nice. That has been the problem all along. The Republican candidates need to DEMAND debates, not just capitulate to no debates. After all, the Dems never ever capitulate on their stances, so why the Republicans always cave in is beyond me. Being too nice does not get you anywhere. And we're seeing the fall out of the Republicans constantly giving in to Democrats and it is highly toxic.
What we are learning here is how quickly they fade once the do get pushback. They are little more than insults, lies and fury, ultimately signifying nothing. Yet their inside game is still embedded and powerful. Action to kick them out of office is the next step; not argument.
The Silent Majority will win this game, because we fund them. We chose whether to keep paying them to do this to us, or not. There is now a perfect storm of goverment debt at every level. The goodwill of “The Commons” has been irrovocably been lost.
Today we vote with both our ballots and our pocketbooks. Democrats put themselves to full vulnerability now. Losing both registrations and revenues. No wonder they act like cornered animals today.