There is room here for Christians to express their beliefs. No need to read anything more into this. Good to listen to all who express a desire for a better future for everyone. I admire these statements of personal faith. One can never divorce the essential spiritual part of the whole human personality. And accept this can and does take many, many positive forms regardless of the origins of that faith.
Recently in Japan and the question was asked why is everything in Japan so clean? The answer, cleanliness is godliness, and they cherish being close to godliness. Keeping things very clean is just one way they manifest their own, mainly non-Christian faith across their own country. Everyone benefits from this personal statement of faith.
The supposition that babies are randomly and cold heartedly killed every year by the hundreds of thousands is not factual. You have never been faced with what a woman faces; life or death for her and/or the baby she carries- not you or the government. Along with her family, her religious and medical advisors it’s the woman's difficult decision, not yours or the government’s. You say you’re there to protect the baby. How many babies have you raised to adulthood that were born out of an eleven year old girl or a woman that’s been raped. You talk a sanctimonious story and yet you, a man, have never walked the walk.
Excuse me! Steve I'll answer for you here. I've know Steve for over 50 years. This man has stepped up for many... I even introduced him to someone that needed help. He and his wife stepped right in. Keep being you Steve.
Captain Seth Keshel who is DATA driven and an excellent pollster and analyst has President Trump WINNING Pennsylvania by over 2 points even in the most pessimistic scenario. Also, Atlas Intel another outstanding pollster has President Trump winning Pennsylvania. It all comes down to Pennsylvania. This state will make it or break it for President Trump, and according to all the ACCURATE data out there, and the early voting, President Trump is winning there. Most of us have already voted and so has half the country. Now we just pray and wait for the jubilant results!!!!
I don't know if this is the case with Trump but it could be. Trump has many "issues" that caused us to be here but he is the best choice. He that raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you Rom 8:21. There's a lot I cannot explain about God but I know His love. Richard met God You Tube and cried talking about God's unconditional love. Happened at Cottage Hospital years ago. I said God help me stop drinking after 35 years of excess and Alcohol became so bitter I couldn't stand the taste in one night.
I guess we'll know in 2-3 weeks after the recounting
I have no idea who God favors in this election or if HE even cares. Don’t know, don’t claim to know. I do know of the despair under the Biden/Harris administration. Soaring prices, inflation, unchecked illegal immigration, crushing debt, outbreak of wars, increased crime, gender madness and failing schools for starters. All of which are results of ungodly, sinful behavior and the antithesis of un-Christian values.
One party/candidate represents Christian values, patriotism and preservation of the traditional nuclear family. The other party/candidate supports the taking of life in the womb, sick, grotesque mutilations of children, division based on race and promotion of vile, sick hatred of Christians.
These are facts, disparage if you must, vote accordingly.
What would Jesus do? Would he grab random women by the pussy? Would Jesus pay for a full page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five innocent young men (“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” John 8:7-11)? Would Jesus lie incessantly, knowing that a liar is speaking the devil's "native language" ("When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies" John 8:44)? Would Jesus use the Ten Commandments like a "to-do list"? Jesus healed the sick, he didn't lie to them, mislead them, or deny them care. Trump's mishandling of Covid resulted in the deaths of over 400,000 Americans. Jesus told us to "welcome the stranger," "clothe the naked," "feed the hungry," and "to shelter the homeless" - not to build a wall and put their children in cages. Jesus spoke of his love for humanity and taught us to not hate those who are different from us. This Christian will NOT be using his God-given right to vote to help elect an unrepentant blasphemer who claims he has "never sinned" and who struggles with every breath to tell the truth.
Baffled how someone could, with a straight face, make an argument that voting for Trump is the Christian thing to do? Trump is the antithesis of a Christian--Jesus taught humility, turning the other cheek, serving the poorest among us with empathy, compassion, and love. Of course, make your argument against SBCC Bond. That's valid. But really, Christian values? Mary needs to follow her daughter's lead and reject hate, division, and calls for retribution. It happened for a brief second after Jan 6 when Republican leaders like Lindsay Graham said "I'm done." Too bad it didn't last. Mary, please stop trying to contort yourself into ethical pretzels to justify voting for a man who is the exact opposite of Christian values.
Sorry Bonnie, it's not even close. Not even in the same ballpark. Harris: "“I’ll be honest with you: I’m not perfect. I make mistakes. But here’s what I promise you: I will always listen to you, even if you don’t vote for me. I will always tell you the truth, even if it’s hard to hear. I will work every day to build consensus and reach compromise to get things done." Trump: "And sometimes revenge can be justified, Phil. I have to be honest. Sometimes it can..."The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within."
So once again, the man (Will) speaks the "truth, even if it's hard to hear." Elon is working on a spaceship to Mars for liberals, you might want to take a number and try to get on one of the early flights with Kamala, Will. And all the way to Mars you might be lucky to get a seat with Kamala and listen to her "word salads." By the time you get to Mars, you'll be insane.
Will, what about Biden character? If your going to point Trump's faults, which are many, then you also have the long list of what Biden has done to our country, mostly created greater division, through his words and deceit. Trump is by far the better choice of the 2 candidates.
What you are missing Will is that Jesus loves everyone. Its people like yourself that "play" being Christian that haven't a clue as to what they are talking about. Don't describe people you don't personally know. You are falling into the trap of liars everywhere. What do you do to know so much, do you peak into Trump's bedroom? Never say someone is not of "Christian values," you may be questioned about your stances at the Pearly Gates. You use the term, "ethical pretzels." Is that one of Kamala's word salad phrases?
Gee Carl, it's sort of common knowledge that the "G" in God is always capitalized when speaking about GOD, you know, the Supreme Being. The only pardon I can give you for your lack of "capitalization" knowledge is that many text without using cap letters. You would look more the wiser having said that instead of stating you had to ask your wife (as I cringe with this thought). When you use a small "t" for the word trump, you are inferring another meaning than the apparent Trump you were referring to. Well, that doesn't make a lot of sense either. Or are you referring to a small t used in Trumps last name makes him a small person? Let's have Trump sit on you and then you can tell everyone whether or not Trump is really a little t as you think he (screaming as your eyes bulge out) <g>.
Gee Bill, I think it's common knowledge that very few people have met God and have been able to talk about it. I am thinking maybe Moses and Samuel. I know that there is a concept of God ( is this punctuated ok for you?) going way back before Jesus. Most religions are based on respecting all of creation and treating people well. trump does not. The small "t "in trump is my way of expressing my own view (very small) of the guy in this election. But yes Bonnie, I do ask my wife for advice on more than just punctuation. And I trust her to make her own choices. Please vote and respond!
“Also, you will answer to God for your vote.” This statement at its core is anti Republican and anti American. To imply that God is judging us by how we vote is the antithesis of what our government was founded on and what our Constitution says. Our national motto until the mid 1950s was E Pluribus Unum, Of One Many. Do not place your specific Christian beliefs on how or why a citizen will vote.
Thank GOD it didn't take 2 weeks to count. He has character flaws , we all do, but I believe he can turn things around.
Since GOD and Jesus were mentioned several times here I'm going to share something most Christians do not know. Items with * can be verified. It is a little long but an important topic.
GOD doesn't be;ieve all the Bible HE said their worship is a farce, they teach man-made ideas as doctrine. Mat. 15:9. Their fear of ME is a commandment of man Isa 29:13.
The god ( small g) of this world is satan 2 Cor. 4:4 and unfortunately is real. This one is responsible for the hate, anger, bitterness, revenge among other things. Anger opens the door to the devil ( a verse). I used to hit, slam, or throw something in anger daily. Some pastors know this one can give us thoughts, 30 years ago I said I don't even know where these mean thoughts come from. * Kevin Hines survived jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge and said he kept hearing jump, jump.
We say GOD had a reason for this or that. I blamed GOD for my wife's Alzheimer's before I believed because of that nonsense. Things happen in life including children having cancer, accidents, war, flu, etc.
Ordinary people hear GOD, everyone can.
*A friend heard GOD say where are you going I will heal your son. Mundo was going for medicine at 4:30 AM.
*GOD told Dr. Clarice Fluitt, a former Catholic, to raise the pastor on the pulpit. Her book is Riduculous Miracles.
* Ken Johnson (YouTube) heard GOD say I love you more than you will ever know.
*GOD told Shawn Boaz (YT) to ask the atheist Billionaire if these 16 numbers mean anything. It was the former atheists bank account.
GOD said to me TELL ABOUT MY LOVE. I have cried over 300 times feeling loved like a 4 yo child after doing what Rev. Ken said was his breakthrough to GOD. Paul, a friend cried for 3 days years ago.
When you cry feeling like a child you will realize how much you are loved and you may not be as smart as you thought.
The verses I read on my knees for 5-6 weeks not knowing what would happen are Eph. 1:16-20, 2:4-8, 3:14-19. I cried feeling loved for two hours.
Years ago I thought just because I don't believe doesn't mean GOD does not exist.
Generally speaking, the church has " missed the boat" regarding Jesus coming back and there is plenty of evidence of His presence with us. The greatest revelation to humanity has been withheld.
A Barna survey indicated 50% of Christians have "issues" of depression, anxiety, feeling guilty or unworthy, thoughts of suicide, loss of faith, etc. That is 1.5 billion people +/-.
Jesus said each day has its own troubles Mat. 6:34. It is not one time and done.
The Kingdom of GOD is in our midst Luke 17:21 NIV. Where would Jesus be?
He is Lord of the living (us) and the dead Rom. 14:9.
John 12:47 “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world.
Jesus came to defeat the devil 1 John 3:8.
Do you not realize Christ Jesus is in you 2 Cor. 13:5.
* GOD uses David Sorenson for miraculous healing. He said a religious mindset has crept into the church for centuries. “Many are looking for the return of Jesus Christ, but He is looking for people where He can dwell right here and now in His Glorious Presence."
A Catholic man said fear left when you said Jesus remove anything here not from GOD'S love. I told him next time he needs to ask as I won't be there.
* Heaven is for Real is a true story. At the end, the 4-year-old boy said that was Him when he saw the Prince of Peace painted by Akiane who saw Jesus. His picture is at Akiane.com.
* Howard Storm, a former atheist cries talking about Jesus saving him from hell. He said Jesus told him GOD created other dimensions and you can explore heaven for eternity.
* Beyond Mile Marker 80 is a true story. A man in the hospital sees his wife who just died in the car wreck with Jesus. The nurse and doctor see the same thing and travel talking about this miracle to doctors.
* Big George Foreman movie. He had a heart attack, woke up and told everyone in the room Jesus is in me (before he believed). He became a minister.
*Bobby Conners hears from The Lord often and sees bodies restored. He said GOD wants us to all understand we can do this.
*Lety’s was healed the night before a major operation and said Jesus did it.
Anita, dec. was healed and said Jesus prefers Yeshua.
*12 Days with GOD is a true story. At the end the formerly angry man told the doctor it isn’t a belief, IT’S A RELATIONSHIP.
*Bill, addicted to cocaine, said Jesus if you're real help me. Bill heard NEVER WILL I LEAVE YOU OR FORSAKE YOU.
GOD said seek ME and you will find ME Jer. 29:13.
There is only ONE judge James 4:12 and he loves you more than you know and forgives more than some who think others go to hell. Three people told me a pastor and priest told them a loved one may go to hell. Two committed suicide and a grandchild had not been baptized. The theologians do not know GOD. HE said more than once they lead MY people astray.
A veteran said he always wondered about that, 22 veterans commit suicide daily. More than one pastor has committed suicide.
There is room here for Christians to express their beliefs. No need to read anything more into this. Good to listen to all who express a desire for a better future for everyone. I admire these statements of personal faith. One can never divorce the essential spiritual part of the whole human personality. And accept this can and does take many, many positive forms regardless of the origins of that faith.
Recently in Japan and the question was asked why is everything in Japan so clean? The answer, cleanliness is godliness, and they cherish being close to godliness. Keeping things very clean is just one way they manifest their own, mainly non-Christian faith across their own country. Everyone benefits from this personal statement of faith.
Dear will
We abort hundreds of thousands of babies in this country every year.
Please don’t try to tell me Mr Trump is the opposite of a Christian.
You and I BOTH know that the most important issue by far in today’s Democratic Party is the right to kill babies at any point in pregnancy.
Mr Trump is far from a perfect man and I would venture to say that you and I aren’t either!
Kamala Harris is incredibly unqualified to be president and you know it.
I believe as a Christian that I am obligated to take care of those who CANNOT take care of themselves.
Not those who WON’T take care of themselves.
Be careful not to twist GODS word.
His word in the same yesterday, today and forever.
Get to know him.
It will change your life!
The supposition that babies are randomly and cold heartedly killed every year by the hundreds of thousands is not factual. You have never been faced with what a woman faces; life or death for her and/or the baby she carries- not you or the government. Along with her family, her religious and medical advisors it’s the woman's difficult decision, not yours or the government’s. You say you’re there to protect the baby. How many babies have you raised to adulthood that were born out of an eleven year old girl or a woman that’s been raped. You talk a sanctimonious story and yet you, a man, have never walked the walk.
Excuse me! Steve I'll answer for you here. I've know Steve for over 50 years. This man has stepped up for many... I even introduced him to someone that needed help. He and his wife stepped right in. Keep being you Steve.
Actually
I think in 2023 there were around 1 million abortions in this country.
I’m just saying.
Cheers
Captain Seth Keshel who is DATA driven and an excellent pollster and analyst has President Trump WINNING Pennsylvania by over 2 points even in the most pessimistic scenario. Also, Atlas Intel another outstanding pollster has President Trump winning Pennsylvania. It all comes down to Pennsylvania. This state will make it or break it for President Trump, and according to all the ACCURATE data out there, and the early voting, President Trump is winning there. Most of us have already voted and so has half the country. Now we just pray and wait for the jubilant results!!!!
6 pm pray across America
Thank you for writing this passionate statement to Christians to get out and vote. I already have.
Great article, thanks for the encouragement and insight! Go Trump!
Mike
Thanks for your response.
I’m not here to judge you but I want you to know that Jesus Christ loves you more than you could possibly imagine.
He was willing to die for people like you and me!
THAT IS LOVE!
🙏
Well said. I am hopeful and prayerful tomorrow will be the day we get our country back....
I don't know if this is the case with Trump but it could be. Trump has many "issues" that caused us to be here but he is the best choice. He that raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you Rom 8:21. There's a lot I cannot explain about God but I know His love. Richard met God You Tube and cried talking about God's unconditional love. Happened at Cottage Hospital years ago. I said God help me stop drinking after 35 years of excess and Alcohol became so bitter I couldn't stand the taste in one night.
I guess we'll know in 2-3 weeks after the recounting
I have no idea who God favors in this election or if HE even cares. Don’t know, don’t claim to know. I do know of the despair under the Biden/Harris administration. Soaring prices, inflation, unchecked illegal immigration, crushing debt, outbreak of wars, increased crime, gender madness and failing schools for starters. All of which are results of ungodly, sinful behavior and the antithesis of un-Christian values.
One party/candidate represents Christian values, patriotism and preservation of the traditional nuclear family. The other party/candidate supports the taking of life in the womb, sick, grotesque mutilations of children, division based on race and promotion of vile, sick hatred of Christians.
These are facts, disparage if you must, vote accordingly.
MAGA 2024.
What would Jesus do? Would he grab random women by the pussy? Would Jesus pay for a full page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five innocent young men (“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” John 8:7-11)? Would Jesus lie incessantly, knowing that a liar is speaking the devil's "native language" ("When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies" John 8:44)? Would Jesus use the Ten Commandments like a "to-do list"? Jesus healed the sick, he didn't lie to them, mislead them, or deny them care. Trump's mishandling of Covid resulted in the deaths of over 400,000 Americans. Jesus told us to "welcome the stranger," "clothe the naked," "feed the hungry," and "to shelter the homeless" - not to build a wall and put their children in cages. Jesus spoke of his love for humanity and taught us to not hate those who are different from us. This Christian will NOT be using his God-given right to vote to help elect an unrepentant blasphemer who claims he has "never sinned" and who struggles with every breath to tell the truth.
Great, Great Article Mary! I agree 1000%! We hold the power and we have the responsibility to be a good steward!
Baffled how someone could, with a straight face, make an argument that voting for Trump is the Christian thing to do? Trump is the antithesis of a Christian--Jesus taught humility, turning the other cheek, serving the poorest among us with empathy, compassion, and love. Of course, make your argument against SBCC Bond. That's valid. But really, Christian values? Mary needs to follow her daughter's lead and reject hate, division, and calls for retribution. It happened for a brief second after Jan 6 when Republican leaders like Lindsay Graham said "I'm done." Too bad it didn't last. Mary, please stop trying to contort yourself into ethical pretzels to justify voting for a man who is the exact opposite of Christian values.
You are telling me/us Kamala does????
Sorry Bonnie, it's not even close. Not even in the same ballpark. Harris: "“I’ll be honest with you: I’m not perfect. I make mistakes. But here’s what I promise you: I will always listen to you, even if you don’t vote for me. I will always tell you the truth, even if it’s hard to hear. I will work every day to build consensus and reach compromise to get things done." Trump: "And sometimes revenge can be justified, Phil. I have to be honest. Sometimes it can..."The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within."
Sorry, we will have to agree to disagree. Have a great evening!!
So once again, the man (Will) speaks the "truth, even if it's hard to hear." Elon is working on a spaceship to Mars for liberals, you might want to take a number and try to get on one of the early flights with Kamala, Will. And all the way to Mars you might be lucky to get a seat with Kamala and listen to her "word salads." By the time you get to Mars, you'll be insane.
Will, what about Biden character? If your going to point Trump's faults, which are many, then you also have the long list of what Biden has done to our country, mostly created greater division, through his words and deceit. Trump is by far the better choice of the 2 candidates.
What you are missing Will is that Jesus loves everyone. Its people like yourself that "play" being Christian that haven't a clue as to what they are talking about. Don't describe people you don't personally know. You are falling into the trap of liars everywhere. What do you do to know so much, do you peak into Trump's bedroom? Never say someone is not of "Christian values," you may be questioned about your stances at the Pearly Gates. You use the term, "ethical pretzels." Is that one of Kamala's word salad phrases?
I trust in god. I do not trust trump.
yet, you capitalize neither.
I asked my wife and would like to correct my response. I trust in GOD , but not trump.
Thank you!
You asked your wife?
Yes I trust my wife in matters of punctuation.The small t is all mine.
Gee Carl, it's sort of common knowledge that the "G" in God is always capitalized when speaking about GOD, you know, the Supreme Being. The only pardon I can give you for your lack of "capitalization" knowledge is that many text without using cap letters. You would look more the wiser having said that instead of stating you had to ask your wife (as I cringe with this thought). When you use a small "t" for the word trump, you are inferring another meaning than the apparent Trump you were referring to. Well, that doesn't make a lot of sense either. Or are you referring to a small t used in Trumps last name makes him a small person? Let's have Trump sit on you and then you can tell everyone whether or not Trump is really a little t as you think he (screaming as your eyes bulge out) <g>.
Stormy Daniel’s called trump small; she should know!
Gee Bill, I think it's common knowledge that very few people have met God and have been able to talk about it. I am thinking maybe Moses and Samuel. I know that there is a concept of God ( is this punctuated ok for you?) going way back before Jesus. Most religions are based on respecting all of creation and treating people well. trump does not. The small "t "in trump is my way of expressing my own view (very small) of the guy in this election. But yes Bonnie, I do ask my wife for advice on more than just punctuation. And I trust her to make her own choices. Please vote and respond!
“Also, you will answer to God for your vote.” This statement at its core is anti Republican and anti American. To imply that God is judging us by how we vote is the antithesis of what our government was founded on and what our Constitution says. Our national motto until the mid 1950s was E Pluribus Unum, Of One Many. Do not place your specific Christian beliefs on how or why a citizen will vote.
Thank GOD it didn't take 2 weeks to count. He has character flaws , we all do, but I believe he can turn things around.
Since GOD and Jesus were mentioned several times here I'm going to share something most Christians do not know. Items with * can be verified. It is a little long but an important topic.
GOD doesn't be;ieve all the Bible HE said their worship is a farce, they teach man-made ideas as doctrine. Mat. 15:9. Their fear of ME is a commandment of man Isa 29:13.
The god ( small g) of this world is satan 2 Cor. 4:4 and unfortunately is real. This one is responsible for the hate, anger, bitterness, revenge among other things. Anger opens the door to the devil ( a verse). I used to hit, slam, or throw something in anger daily. Some pastors know this one can give us thoughts, 30 years ago I said I don't even know where these mean thoughts come from. * Kevin Hines survived jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge and said he kept hearing jump, jump.
We say GOD had a reason for this or that. I blamed GOD for my wife's Alzheimer's before I believed because of that nonsense. Things happen in life including children having cancer, accidents, war, flu, etc.
Ordinary people hear GOD, everyone can.
*A friend heard GOD say where are you going I will heal your son. Mundo was going for medicine at 4:30 AM.
*GOD told Dr. Clarice Fluitt, a former Catholic, to raise the pastor on the pulpit. Her book is Riduculous Miracles.
* Ken Johnson (YouTube) heard GOD say I love you more than you will ever know.
*GOD told Shawn Boaz (YT) to ask the atheist Billionaire if these 16 numbers mean anything. It was the former atheists bank account.
GOD said to me TELL ABOUT MY LOVE. I have cried over 300 times feeling loved like a 4 yo child after doing what Rev. Ken said was his breakthrough to GOD. Paul, a friend cried for 3 days years ago.
When you cry feeling like a child you will realize how much you are loved and you may not be as smart as you thought.
The verses I read on my knees for 5-6 weeks not knowing what would happen are Eph. 1:16-20, 2:4-8, 3:14-19. I cried feeling loved for two hours.
Years ago I thought just because I don't believe doesn't mean GOD does not exist.
Generally speaking, the church has " missed the boat" regarding Jesus coming back and there is plenty of evidence of His presence with us. The greatest revelation to humanity has been withheld.
A Barna survey indicated 50% of Christians have "issues" of depression, anxiety, feeling guilty or unworthy, thoughts of suicide, loss of faith, etc. That is 1.5 billion people +/-.
Jesus said each day has its own troubles Mat. 6:34. It is not one time and done.
The Kingdom of GOD is in our midst Luke 17:21 NIV. Where would Jesus be?
He is Lord of the living (us) and the dead Rom. 14:9.
John 12:47 “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world.
Jesus came to defeat the devil 1 John 3:8.
Do you not realize Christ Jesus is in you 2 Cor. 13:5.
* GOD uses David Sorenson for miraculous healing. He said a religious mindset has crept into the church for centuries. “Many are looking for the return of Jesus Christ, but He is looking for people where He can dwell right here and now in His Glorious Presence."
*All veterans with PTSD see Jesus at operationrestoredwarrior.org.
A Catholic man said fear left when you said Jesus remove anything here not from GOD'S love. I told him next time he needs to ask as I won't be there.
* Heaven is for Real is a true story. At the end, the 4-year-old boy said that was Him when he saw the Prince of Peace painted by Akiane who saw Jesus. His picture is at Akiane.com.
* Howard Storm, a former atheist cries talking about Jesus saving him from hell. He said Jesus told him GOD created other dimensions and you can explore heaven for eternity.
* All veterans with PTSD see Jesus at operationrestoredwarrior.org
* Beyond Mile Marker 80 is a true story. A man in the hospital sees his wife who just died in the car wreck with Jesus. The nurse and doctor see the same thing and travel talking about this miracle to doctors.
* Big George Foreman movie. He had a heart attack, woke up and told everyone in the room Jesus is in me (before he believed). He became a minister.
*Bobby Conners hears from The Lord often and sees bodies restored. He said GOD wants us to all understand we can do this.
*Lety’s was healed the night before a major operation and said Jesus did it.
Anita, dec. was healed and said Jesus prefers Yeshua.
*12 Days with GOD is a true story. At the end the formerly angry man told the doctor it isn’t a belief, IT’S A RELATIONSHIP.
*Bill, addicted to cocaine, said Jesus if you're real help me. Bill heard NEVER WILL I LEAVE YOU OR FORSAKE YOU.
GOD said seek ME and you will find ME Jer. 29:13.
There is only ONE judge James 4:12 and he loves you more than you know and forgives more than some who think others go to hell. Three people told me a pastor and priest told them a loved one may go to hell. Two committed suicide and a grandchild had not been baptized. The theologians do not know GOD. HE said more than once they lead MY people astray.
A veteran said he always wondered about that, 22 veterans commit suicide daily. More than one pastor has committed suicide.