I truly don't get the arrogance and political naivite of some SB Current commenters. Truly. You sit back and tsk at Trump and Musk, etc., then Mark Rock writes a factual good piece about the government funding of indoctrination on our campuses, but come on, this is something anyone with half a brain has known about for years, that our government has been funding not aid to other countries but ways to funnel our tax money money into their NGO programs which supposedly are independent but really anything but and are used to interfere with other countries. So over the weekend Musk goes into USAID and the worms who've been profiteering from it are scattering, running, resigning. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14354683/Elon-Musk-shuts-USAID-Donald-Trump-approval.html But you all act like this isn't happening. Like Trump and Musk just aren't doing what they should be doing. Sometimes I think Santa Barbarans are hopeless. When are you going to stop the weed for a day and pay attention to how much good is actually being done by this administration in a few weeks as you sit here ragging on Trump?
Agree, the left has only one ability, just one and no other, and that ability is to walk around saying 'Trump did it' to anything they don't like. That's it. That's their ability. That is why I suspect they will never return to power. the Adults have regained power, the adults will likely remain in power. Even young voters are seeing this and supporting Republicans and Trump in record numbers.
Yes, George. Have you noticed how much more conservative the generation now going to college is? I hear it from young people and from people who are parents. Not conservative in a religious way or the way previous generations have been. They have common sense! They have been through the lockdown. They resent being called racist when they aren't. They know they aren't racist. The twentysomethings who are older may still fall for this gaslighting but not the younger ones. My friend James Kunstler posted a terrific piece about it today
Yes it is rather incredible particularly given the non stop Liberal propaganda they are fed in school, in the movies, in their music, somehow they are seeing through it using, drum roll here, common sense! Thanks I'll read that article!
Excellent article and a subject matter that should concern everyone. I'd love to see federal funding completely stopped while these hateful and poisonous brainwashing programs exist.
This is why the state of California needs someone like Chris Rufo. He was commissioned by De Santis to get rid of DEI in one Florida University. It was like poking a hornets nest, but I think he made some progress. The academic world is 99% captured
There are a few exceptions like Hillsdale College
We need someone like De Santis to unleash a California version of Rufo
Thank you Mr. Rock for exposing the state funded racism occurring at our tax supported UC system. It should be no surprise to anyone that liberal thugs have hijacked our education system which vilifies whites and exemplifies un-American racism and grievance. BLM specifically, is a vile, hate group which has used its tax exempt status to engage in a confidence game, taking advantage of white guilt and using its status to engage in money laundering. BLM should be a top priority in the Trump Justice Department for exposing criminal activity and prosecution for multiple felony offenses.
Perhaps Trump will ban by Executive Order No. 66666 liberal professorial brainwashing of students in universities (along with liberal organizations) across the country and place a cap of professor salaries no more than $200K. Any violation will stop any Federal funding at those universities in violation of the Order. I'll send this to Marjorie Taylor Greene. Universities are for learning an occupation and not for political orientation brainwashing.
What are the humungous "Other Pay" amounts listed? Maybe I should submit a course offer in Industry Practical Engineering at UCSB with a salary at $666,666 per year, including all "other pay" amounts.
Maybe the coaches receive big dollar bonuses when winning national championships, such as in Frisbee throwing. Anyone knows how to throw a Frisbee and could be a Frisbee coach.
Speaking of our educational system, I do think that besides an overhaul of our university and college age institutions, a major focus should also be on our K-12 as by the time our youth have made it through the lower grades they have pretty much been so indoctrinated with garbage that they are at a disadvantage for real critical thinking.
Good idea keeping S.B. Current readers' rage focused on local issues these past few days rather than on the "peak incompetence" (to quote Republican David Brooks) happening in D.C.
Yeah, like the fact that the richest man on the planet Elon Musk’s team yesterday took control of our Treasury’s payment system, essentially gaining access to the checkbook with which the United States handles about $6 trillion annually and to all the financial information of Americans and American businesses with it.
If what you call the Democrat voting deep state was so powerful Trump would not be in office. I think both sides participate in the muck of the swamp. I don't see old Cons or new MAGA folks floating on top in pretty white boats either.
Oh, just like Biden, etc. was sabotaged. Look at the immigration deal Trump canned while not even in office. Not the best plan I'll give you - but the deep Maga state followed orders.
I think you make too much of this whole "fear of losing a pension" thing. From the handful of folks I know with those jobs that's on the second page of their concerns.
But I digress. I'm trying to keep my comments relevant to the author's writings.
USAID is full of misspent money and bloat. But gutting that function will just clear the greens of last few holes for China to step up and win the game.
China and the US have different approaches to foreign aid. The US more humanitarian and China more infrastructure - but with the US off the table the world will be looking to China for leadership.
J. Livingston: "... not the time to claim failure" eh? Tell that to the Wall Street Journal who today proclaimed Trump's tariff plans "The dumbest trade war in history."
I'm not claiming failure at all. I think 99% of the time you don't comment on my comment but just get up on your soap box . And I'm fine with seeing how talk-talk and weaving go.
My original concern on this thread was allowing a bunch of non-security-checked kids led by Elon access to so much sensitive data.
This is the fox guarding the hen house. You'll argue that the eggs are miss spent - fine -I agree with you in part. But just giving tech bros' keys to the sage is a terrible idea.
But again I digress from the original topic of the UC system, BLM etc.
Since our Universities love quotas so much I think they should be forced to uphold another 'quota'. 50% of all professors and classes and textbooks must be from confirmed Conservatives. At present 95% of professors are Liberal. This is unbalanced. How do you teach young people critical thinking if they are only spoon fed one point of view.
How sad so many people are threatened by thinking-people with differing viewpoints. I bet all those theoretical physics and applied math students are liberal radicals, and don't forget the chem students trying to make the grade in one of the top programs in the country... they are surely a threat to democracy.
Jefferson and Hamilton would be saddened that citizens are being demonized for the act of thinking, learning and voicing diverse opinions. BTW... that's what they were doing to intellectuals and students in China and under Thailand's military dictatorship when I spent several months there. That may be what some want but not this American.
The radical Chinese students were supported by the Maoist state and Thailand's military dictatorship was supported by the Thai state. And woke ideology of UCSB and many other colleges is funded by US taxpayers. All three are prime examples of anti-intellectual indoctrination regimes. To return the US to its Jeffersonian roots, defunding and defanging radical state sponsored indoctrination is critical.
Whose indoctrination do you support? Why does your view of "right thinking" have any more value than what Orfalea teaches at USC or what Gross, Kohn, or Tooby taught at UCSB? Some like to fight for intellectual mediocrity, and some want diverse thinkers coming up the ranks who, like Jefferson and Hamilton, were not afraid of opposing opinions and who actually read Marx, Lenin, Hune, and Jean-Jacques Rousseau with the goal of learning.
It is telling that you think one must support any type of indoctrination. Please read the actual words Jefferson and Hamilton, not just typing their names. Do you believe the state should be telling students what to think or more simply how to think?
I’m in the camp that supports learning, exploring ideas, having lively debate and not demonizing those who think differently … whether it conforms to my biases or not. BTW, I just finished the 31st essay from the Federalist Papers, so Hamilton, Madison and Jay’s works are on my mind a lot.
Thank you for your OPINION. That’s that basis of debate. Statements like “any honest person” is subjective and despite being delivered as fact, is also just an opinion and I welcome yours even though we do not agree on such broad brush statements.
I am active in SB community and travel. I do not believe racism is anything like the problem they profess. It’s a diversion. Talent gets people places. Within the system described here, complaining gets some people places, but without the talent? Imagine the stress of being in a job but not being qualified? That’s not helpful but a stressful curse.
I truly don't get the arrogance and political naivite of some SB Current commenters. Truly. You sit back and tsk at Trump and Musk, etc., then Mark Rock writes a factual good piece about the government funding of indoctrination on our campuses, but come on, this is something anyone with half a brain has known about for years, that our government has been funding not aid to other countries but ways to funnel our tax money money into their NGO programs which supposedly are independent but really anything but and are used to interfere with other countries. So over the weekend Musk goes into USAID and the worms who've been profiteering from it are scattering, running, resigning. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14354683/Elon-Musk-shuts-USAID-Donald-Trump-approval.html But you all act like this isn't happening. Like Trump and Musk just aren't doing what they should be doing. Sometimes I think Santa Barbarans are hopeless. When are you going to stop the weed for a day and pay attention to how much good is actually being done by this administration in a few weeks as you sit here ragging on Trump?
Agree, the left has only one ability, just one and no other, and that ability is to walk around saying 'Trump did it' to anything they don't like. That's it. That's their ability. That is why I suspect they will never return to power. the Adults have regained power, the adults will likely remain in power. Even young voters are seeing this and supporting Republicans and Trump in record numbers.
Yes, George. Have you noticed how much more conservative the generation now going to college is? I hear it from young people and from people who are parents. Not conservative in a religious way or the way previous generations have been. They have common sense! They have been through the lockdown. They resent being called racist when they aren't. They know they aren't racist. The twentysomethings who are older may still fall for this gaslighting but not the younger ones. My friend James Kunstler posted a terrific piece about it today
https://www.kunstler.com/p/last-rites?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=e32x3&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Yes it is rather incredible particularly given the non stop Liberal propaganda they are fed in school, in the movies, in their music, somehow they are seeing through it using, drum roll here, common sense! Thanks I'll read that article!
Excellent article and a subject matter that should concern everyone. I'd love to see federal funding completely stopped while these hateful and poisonous brainwashing programs exist.
This is why the state of California needs someone like Chris Rufo. He was commissioned by De Santis to get rid of DEI in one Florida University. It was like poking a hornets nest, but I think he made some progress. The academic world is 99% captured
There are a few exceptions like Hillsdale College
We need someone like De Santis to unleash a California version of Rufo
No thanks. Chris Rufo is a zionist, America last. And so is De Santis.
Rufo was one of the early folks fanning the 'they're eating the cats and dogs' thing too.
Wow! Thanks for exposing this!!
Thank you Mr. Rock for exposing the state funded racism occurring at our tax supported UC system. It should be no surprise to anyone that liberal thugs have hijacked our education system which vilifies whites and exemplifies un-American racism and grievance. BLM specifically, is a vile, hate group which has used its tax exempt status to engage in a confidence game, taking advantage of white guilt and using its status to engage in money laundering. BLM should be a top priority in the Trump Justice Department for exposing criminal activity and prosecution for multiple felony offenses.
This is something I’ve been railing about for what seems like forever. Great work! Keep it up 👍🏼
Perhaps Trump will ban by Executive Order No. 66666 liberal professorial brainwashing of students in universities (along with liberal organizations) across the country and place a cap of professor salaries no more than $200K. Any violation will stop any Federal funding at those universities in violation of the Order. I'll send this to Marjorie Taylor Greene. Universities are for learning an occupation and not for political orientation brainwashing.
What are the humungous "Other Pay" amounts listed? Maybe I should submit a course offer in Industry Practical Engineering at UCSB with a salary at $666,666 per year, including all "other pay" amounts.
Maybe the coaches receive big dollar bonuses when winning national championships, such as in Frisbee throwing. Anyone knows how to throw a Frisbee and could be a Frisbee coach.
I read this article by Mark Rock Tilted "Indoctrication at UCSB"
and recommend a new title "Corruption at UCSB" and I provide
the weblinks below>
https://www.independent.com/2019/05/09/whistleblower-lawsuits-blow-lid-off-ucsb-police/
https://www.noozhawk.com/ucsb_police_department_embroiled_in_lawsuit_controversy/
https://dailynexus.com/PrintEditions/05-2019/05-09-19.pdf
I had a long talk with one of the family members of a Police Officer who sued UCSB.
It is much worse than what is detailed in the above articles. Enuf said.
Why am I always posting on Corruption in Santa Barbara.
Maybe Just Maybe because Corruption is Endemic in Santa Barbara
Howard Walther, Member of a Military Family
PS1 - the family member, of the police officer who I talked to for some time, that sued
UCSB is referred to in the above articles. I am not going to post their name > Retaliation
is a well-known documented fact in SB and in the State of CALI.
I clicked the link above "...first get past the following: “CCSP stands unequivocally united with the Black Lives Matter movement”."
"404 page not found"
I suspect the site has been changed since Mr. Rock wrote this piece.
Thank you Thomas. The error was on our side and has been corrected on the site. The link now works.
Parents need to wake up and stop sending their children to reeducation camps
This is a real concern.
Speaking of our educational system, I do think that besides an overhaul of our university and college age institutions, a major focus should also be on our K-12 as by the time our youth have made it through the lower grades they have pretty much been so indoctrinated with garbage that they are at a disadvantage for real critical thinking.
Good idea keeping S.B. Current readers' rage focused on local issues these past few days rather than on the "peak incompetence" (to quote Republican David Brooks) happening in D.C.
Yeah, like the fact that the richest man on the planet Elon Musk’s team yesterday took control of our Treasury’s payment system, essentially gaining access to the checkbook with which the United States handles about $6 trillion annually and to all the financial information of Americans and American businesses with it.
Talk about the fox in the hen house.
I have less faith in Musk.
If what you call the Democrat voting deep state was so powerful Trump would not be in office. I think both sides participate in the muck of the swamp. I don't see old Cons or new MAGA folks floating on top in pretty white boats either.
Oh, just like Biden, etc. was sabotaged. Look at the immigration deal Trump canned while not even in office. Not the best plan I'll give you - but the deep Maga state followed orders.
I think you make too much of this whole "fear of losing a pension" thing. From the handful of folks I know with those jobs that's on the second page of their concerns.
But I digress. I'm trying to keep my comments relevant to the author's writings.
USAID is full of misspent money and bloat. But gutting that function will just clear the greens of last few holes for China to step up and win the game.
China and the US have different approaches to foreign aid. The US more humanitarian and China more infrastructure - but with the US off the table the world will be looking to China for leadership.
J. Livingston: "... not the time to claim failure" eh? Tell that to the Wall Street Journal who today proclaimed Trump's tariff plans "The dumbest trade war in history."
I'm not claiming failure at all. I think 99% of the time you don't comment on my comment but just get up on your soap box . And I'm fine with seeing how talk-talk and weaving go.
My original concern on this thread was allowing a bunch of non-security-checked kids led by Elon access to so much sensitive data.
This is the fox guarding the hen house. You'll argue that the eggs are miss spent - fine -I agree with you in part. But just giving tech bros' keys to the sage is a terrible idea.
But again I digress from the original topic of the UC system, BLM etc.
Since our Universities love quotas so much I think they should be forced to uphold another 'quota'. 50% of all professors and classes and textbooks must be from confirmed Conservatives. At present 95% of professors are Liberal. This is unbalanced. How do you teach young people critical thinking if they are only spoon fed one point of view.
How sad so many people are threatened by thinking-people with differing viewpoints. I bet all those theoretical physics and applied math students are liberal radicals, and don't forget the chem students trying to make the grade in one of the top programs in the country... they are surely a threat to democracy.
Jefferson and Hamilton would be saddened that citizens are being demonized for the act of thinking, learning and voicing diverse opinions. BTW... that's what they were doing to intellectuals and students in China and under Thailand's military dictatorship when I spent several months there. That may be what some want but not this American.
The radical Chinese students were supported by the Maoist state and Thailand's military dictatorship was supported by the Thai state. And woke ideology of UCSB and many other colleges is funded by US taxpayers. All three are prime examples of anti-intellectual indoctrination regimes. To return the US to its Jeffersonian roots, defunding and defanging radical state sponsored indoctrination is critical.
Whose indoctrination do you support? Why does your view of "right thinking" have any more value than what Orfalea teaches at USC or what Gross, Kohn, or Tooby taught at UCSB? Some like to fight for intellectual mediocrity, and some want diverse thinkers coming up the ranks who, like Jefferson and Hamilton, were not afraid of opposing opinions and who actually read Marx, Lenin, Hune, and Jean-Jacques Rousseau with the goal of learning.
It is telling that you think one must support any type of indoctrination. Please read the actual words Jefferson and Hamilton, not just typing their names. Do you believe the state should be telling students what to think or more simply how to think?
I’m in the camp that supports learning, exploring ideas, having lively debate and not demonizing those who think differently … whether it conforms to my biases or not. BTW, I just finished the 31st essay from the Federalist Papers, so Hamilton, Madison and Jay’s works are on my mind a lot.
Thank you for your OPINION. That’s that basis of debate. Statements like “any honest person” is subjective and despite being delivered as fact, is also just an opinion and I welcome yours even though we do not agree on such broad brush statements.
I am active in SB community and travel. I do not believe racism is anything like the problem they profess. It’s a diversion. Talent gets people places. Within the system described here, complaining gets some people places, but without the talent? Imagine the stress of being in a job but not being qualified? That’s not helpful but a stressful curse.
Hold on, the current nominee for director of the FBI wrote a children’s book “The Plot Against the King”.
Children. Not college students.
Do better