Karen Jones is one of our greatest Americans. I didn't know anything about her until I read the Independent piece and all I could think was - this is the best thing to come out of Trump Derangement Syndrome! The Independent is trying to destroy this woman and the reverse is happening! It's like that moment in the action movie when the villains inadvertently create a super-hero. Watch this https://youtube.com/shorts/ZWg3VLeqtso?si=YsfGCPeue7NSszJM and listen to this - Kinky Friedman and Willie Nelson sing the name Karen Jones https://youtu.be/5MeoyH_iob4. If only Kinky were here now. He'd be so proud of his friend.
Evidently, her then neighbors and constituents gave Ms. Jones the fewest votes of all candidates in her unsuccessful bid for reelection for her seat on the Santa Ynez River Conservation District Board.
I do not know Miss Jones, but she truly personifies the name, Karen. I watched the snippet of her performance and if that’s all she’s got, she needs to keep her day job. Will that be her only claim to fame that she committed treason against the United States, and got rewarded for it with a pardon?
We went to see her at the timbers and she was terrific. It’s great that she is able to see the bright side of her tribulations because someone else might see this mist treatment by one’s own government as a reason to act out violently. What our elected government did to the J Sixers was abhorrent and no one should ever forget what was done in OUR name!
Hindsight is always 20/20. We now know that J6 was nothing more than a riot which got out of control and ultimately was a set up. House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi knowingly FAILED to provide adequate security for the Capitol. We know the crowd of patriots and agitators included FBI agents and operatives. We also know an innocent woman and veteran, Ashli Babbitt, was wrongfully shot and killed by Capital Police Officer, and known screw off, Michael Bird who was later awarded for his shooting of a UNARMED suspect. Rightfully, the family of Babbitt has been awarded $30 million dollars for her WRONGFUL and tragic death.
Thankfully, the Trump administration has tried to make many of the protesters whole again by way of Presidential pardons and commutations.
The only people I saw behaving badly were not Trump supporters. There were plants trying to incite violence and the Trump supporters didn’t take the bait. I can only speak to what I witnessed on the East side of the building but there is a lot of footage of police firing gas and rubber bullets at peaceful protesters on the West Terrace. It was an orchestrated entrapment to cover up the stolen election and the seditious activity leading up to the election fraud.
Learning the identity of the "pipe bomber" remains key to this entire event. Learning why we still do not know the identity of the "pipe bomber" with all the surveillance footage available, is also key.
From the fixed camera footage I saw before this incident started, the major miscalculation was after the Capitol Police without provocation (other than perhaps an internal "pipe bomb" announcement?) fired on what was a peaceful groups of protestors. No one was pushing the barricades in the video. .But suddenly the protestors were fired upon on police orders from someone. Did the Capitol Police expect the crowd to disperse when they were fired upon and run away, like typical Antifa-style mobs?
Instead there was perhaps a more "conservative" reaction, after being fired upon. The protestors ran to where the shots were coming from, in order to protect others from being hurt. The police shootings triggered the primal fight or flight reaction - but they did not flee, they chose instead to stand their ground and fight. Split seconds were involved in this unplanned trigger event.
Thus began the now infamous Jan 6 melee, as shown on that particular surveillance tape. The barricades then broke and the crowd advanced to the Capitol itself.(For the perfectly staged grappler photo op?). At least that is how it appeared from that one fixed camera angle video from the Capitol, looking out over the Mall.
The full story has obviously not been told, nor allowed to be fully explored. Including why so many Capitol Police committed suicide immediately after this event. Spy Code?
So glad you are now sharing your first hand accounts, from the front line. Brava and thank you.
The lies and rationalizations are truly amazing!!! History can’t be rewritten. Thousands of us saw what was happening in real time…not time from media edits. We will NOT forget what happened. Guess you’re ok with people defecating and breaking windows and rummaging through offices…beating police and yelling hang mike pence. Trump is a pathological liar. How can you support such bull…..?
Please take a listen to her 32 minute presentation. I kindly ask that you use a little empathy. You might discover that she is not the terrible monster you have imagined. You don't have to like Jan 6, I don't. It was a terrible day. But Americans would do themselves a favor by listening to each other. If not, how are we going to heal as a nation? James
I don’t at all fault her or think she’s a monster and don’t know her story. My comment was not about her. It’s the lies told about Jan 6th. It’s the reckless disregard of what Trump is doing to destroy the foundations that made this country great. It’s about ignoring the likes of Steven Miller who is an evil bigot. Call me whatever names you want. It doesn’t change what I see as willful blindness. I assume the people on this thread are well meaning and many are obviously smart. That said , thousands of us do not want to live in a white Christian nation ruled by a sick Dictator. I don’t want to believe you want that either.
Dictator, yes, that’s right. He has placed his foot soldiers in department head positions to follow his orders. No questions asked. He is taking over and branding everything around him and naming it after himself. He says he’s cleaning up DC, but were you aware that it’s only the 3 miles around the White House. The White House will eventually be called Mar-a-Lago North and if he finds the right shade of 24 karat gold color, it’s going to be painted.
.Do you agree with the 2020 election results? I don’t believe anyone is against Christianity. It’s the White Nationalist Christians that are the problem, I believe this is Stephen Miller‘s religion. The majority are white supremacists.
I totally accept the results of the election although he’s doing everything to STEAL the midterms. I do not accept Trumps reckless destruction of the rule of law, targeting of his opponents, lying to the public almost every day, talking about people in the most infantile and disrespectful way, enriching himself and acting like a tyrant. I do not accept him sending armed military into our cities to police our own citizens, funding his personal police/military force through ICE by giving them billions…more money than he’s giving the military. Want more? I have nothing against people who actually practice Christianity (or any other religion)…but not who use it as a way to feel entitled or superior. I wish more people would practice what they preach.
“Evil Bigot,” who is? Really, Elaine? Seems you should take a close look at your own crew. Let’s see, Crockett, Jeffries, Omar, Waters,…ALL vile racists! Against who? White Christians.
Your only response it to attack people on the so called left. What is happening has nothing to do with what is wrong with the Democrats..and there’s plenty. You are supporting a very sick man if you think Steven MIller is a balanced human being. Do some research. I know people who went to high school with him and say he was a bitter, mean and bigoted kid even then. You love him???????
I encourage you to look at all the evidence before forming such strong opinions. The media has been acting like the sheep in Animal Farm for some time. Listen to some long form discussions on podcasts where assertions are challenged.
taco is in the throes of dementia among other health issues that he’s hiding, starting with his swollen ankles. People were saying that Biden’s people were covering for him, well, it certainly is going on at the present. This is a cover-up that cannot be denied. we constantly see it and hear it with taco.
Ashley Babbitt’s death was tragic, but by no means was it wrongful. She was with a group of people literally breaking into the Capital Building, the policeman were under attack so they had to defend themselves. She had no weapon, but they did not know that. There was no reason for a $30 million payout, or for the pardon of all those rioters and insurrectionists.
Shooting an unarmed woman coming through a window by a cop who, by the way had issues like leaving his service revolver in a public bathroom and shooting at a moving vehicle in his neighborhood. What a head case. Ya, black cop killing unarmed white woman, wonder how that works out if roles are reversed? Then to top it off, Pelosi awards Michael Byrd for valor!
Even you Jules, can’t be that stupid to believe this! Oh, wait.
More of tacos lies. Nancy Pelosi did not have the power to call in the National Guard, it’s not in her job description. Only the president is allowed to call out the National Guard. Many people kept begging him to do it on J6, including his daughter Ivanka. Now that we don’t need them anywhere, he’s calling them out everywhere.
Karen Jones is one of our greatest Americans. I didn't know anything about her until I read the Independent piece and all I could think was - this is the best thing to come out of Trump Derangement Syndrome! The Independent is trying to destroy this woman and the reverse is happening! It's like that moment in the action movie when the villains inadvertently create a super-hero. Watch this https://youtube.com/shorts/ZWg3VLeqtso?si=YsfGCPeue7NSszJM and listen to this - Kinky Friedman and Willie Nelson sing the name Karen Jones https://youtu.be/5MeoyH_iob4. If only Kinky were here now. He'd be so proud of his friend.
Thank you Polly. I can’t wait to get together after I return to Santa Barbara tomorrow. So much ground to cover, literally and figuratively.
❤️
Evidently, her then neighbors and constituents gave Ms. Jones the fewest votes of all candidates in her unsuccessful bid for reelection for her seat on the Santa Ynez River Conservation District Board.
https://www.independent.com/2024/11/11/january-6-participant-karen-jones-loses-bid-for-reelection-in-santa-ynez/?amp=1
MALA - Make America Laugh Again, Peter. Shared human foibles always make the best comedy.
Why does your comment remind me of the scene in every mythic tale when the bad fairy shows up to utter a curse against all present?
Brilliant!
I guess Willie has "TDS"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt-n0zu6MjM
I do not know Miss Jones, but she truly personifies the name, Karen. I watched the snippet of her performance and if that’s all she’s got, she needs to keep her day job. Will that be her only claim to fame that she committed treason against the United States, and got rewarded for it with a pardon?
We went to see her at the timbers and she was terrific. It’s great that she is able to see the bright side of her tribulations because someone else might see this mist treatment by one’s own government as a reason to act out violently. What our elected government did to the J Sixers was abhorrent and no one should ever forget what was done in OUR name!
Laughter, not anger. Wonderful. A message for new ears.
Great to learn about this indomitable witty woman!
Hindsight is always 20/20. We now know that J6 was nothing more than a riot which got out of control and ultimately was a set up. House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi knowingly FAILED to provide adequate security for the Capitol. We know the crowd of patriots and agitators included FBI agents and operatives. We also know an innocent woman and veteran, Ashli Babbitt, was wrongfully shot and killed by Capital Police Officer, and known screw off, Michael Bird who was later awarded for his shooting of a UNARMED suspect. Rightfully, the family of Babbitt has been awarded $30 million dollars for her WRONGFUL and tragic death.
Thankfully, the Trump administration has tried to make many of the protesters whole again by way of Presidential pardons and commutations.
https://apnews.com/article/ashli-babbitt-wrongful-death-settlement-capitol-riot-9f2e60f9dce01237a1e78271cff82f6a#
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/president-trumps-proclamation-granting-pardons-and-commutations-sentences-certain-offenses
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt
The only people I saw behaving badly were not Trump supporters. There were plants trying to incite violence and the Trump supporters didn’t take the bait. I can only speak to what I witnessed on the East side of the building but there is a lot of footage of police firing gas and rubber bullets at peaceful protesters on the West Terrace. It was an orchestrated entrapment to cover up the stolen election and the seditious activity leading up to the election fraud.
Learning the identity of the "pipe bomber" remains key to this entire event. Learning why we still do not know the identity of the "pipe bomber" with all the surveillance footage available, is also key.
From the fixed camera footage I saw before this incident started, the major miscalculation was after the Capitol Police without provocation (other than perhaps an internal "pipe bomb" announcement?) fired on what was a peaceful groups of protestors. No one was pushing the barricades in the video. .But suddenly the protestors were fired upon on police orders from someone. Did the Capitol Police expect the crowd to disperse when they were fired upon and run away, like typical Antifa-style mobs?
Instead there was perhaps a more "conservative" reaction, after being fired upon. The protestors ran to where the shots were coming from, in order to protect others from being hurt. The police shootings triggered the primal fight or flight reaction - but they did not flee, they chose instead to stand their ground and fight. Split seconds were involved in this unplanned trigger event.
Thus began the now infamous Jan 6 melee, as shown on that particular surveillance tape. The barricades then broke and the crowd advanced to the Capitol itself.(For the perfectly staged grappler photo op?). At least that is how it appeared from that one fixed camera angle video from the Capitol, looking out over the Mall.
The full story has obviously not been told, nor allowed to be fully explored. Including why so many Capitol Police committed suicide immediately after this event. Spy Code?
So glad you are now sharing your first hand accounts, from the front line. Brava and thank you.
Thank you. The truth always finds a way. I appreciate you doing independent research. We should all be skeptical. It’s healthy.
The lies and rationalizations are truly amazing!!! History can’t be rewritten. Thousands of us saw what was happening in real time…not time from media edits. We will NOT forget what happened. Guess you’re ok with people defecating and breaking windows and rummaging through offices…beating police and yelling hang mike pence. Trump is a pathological liar. How can you support such bull…..?
Please take a listen to her 32 minute presentation. I kindly ask that you use a little empathy. You might discover that she is not the terrible monster you have imagined. You don't have to like Jan 6, I don't. It was a terrible day. But Americans would do themselves a favor by listening to each other. If not, how are we going to heal as a nation? James
I listened to about 15 minutes and then fast forward through the rest,
I've said this before here, I worked on Capitol Hill for the summer of 1985.
For me Karen Jones is a criminal.
Amen, James.
I don’t at all fault her or think she’s a monster and don’t know her story. My comment was not about her. It’s the lies told about Jan 6th. It’s the reckless disregard of what Trump is doing to destroy the foundations that made this country great. It’s about ignoring the likes of Steven Miller who is an evil bigot. Call me whatever names you want. It doesn’t change what I see as willful blindness. I assume the people on this thread are well meaning and many are obviously smart. That said , thousands of us do not want to live in a white Christian nation ruled by a sick Dictator. I don’t want to believe you want that either.
Dictator? Do you not agree with the election results from the 2024 election? What do you have against Christianity? Why all the bigotry?
Dictator, yes, that’s right. He has placed his foot soldiers in department head positions to follow his orders. No questions asked. He is taking over and branding everything around him and naming it after himself. He says he’s cleaning up DC, but were you aware that it’s only the 3 miles around the White House. The White House will eventually be called Mar-a-Lago North and if he finds the right shade of 24 karat gold color, it’s going to be painted.
.Do you agree with the 2020 election results? I don’t believe anyone is against Christianity. It’s the White Nationalist Christians that are the problem, I believe this is Stephen Miller‘s religion. The majority are white supremacists.
I'm with Elaine on this, and as I've said, I worked on Capital Hill. . .
I totally accept the results of the election although he’s doing everything to STEAL the midterms. I do not accept Trumps reckless destruction of the rule of law, targeting of his opponents, lying to the public almost every day, talking about people in the most infantile and disrespectful way, enriching himself and acting like a tyrant. I do not accept him sending armed military into our cities to police our own citizens, funding his personal police/military force through ICE by giving them billions…more money than he’s giving the military. Want more? I have nothing against people who actually practice Christianity (or any other religion)…but not who use it as a way to feel entitled or superior. I wish more people would practice what they preach.
Steven Miller for President.
Sorry, I don’t think Lord Voldemort would get many votes, except maybe from the death eaters. 🏴☠️
“Evil Bigot,” who is? Really, Elaine? Seems you should take a close look at your own crew. Let’s see, Crockett, Jeffries, Omar, Waters,…ALL vile racists! Against who? White Christians.
Earth to Elaine…come in please!
Your only response it to attack people on the so called left. What is happening has nothing to do with what is wrong with the Democrats..and there’s plenty. You are supporting a very sick man if you think Steven MIller is a balanced human being. Do some research. I know people who went to high school with him and say he was a bitter, mean and bigoted kid even then. You love him???????
I encourage you to look at all the evidence before forming such strong opinions. The media has been acting like the sheep in Animal Farm for some time. Listen to some long form discussions on podcasts where assertions are challenged.
Right Elaine, keep telling yourself that. Of course, in your nutty world the left was not behind the Russia hoax in order to frame Trump? Get a grip.
Do you watch Trump? He looks like he is declining. Just my opinion.
taco is in the throes of dementia among other health issues that he’s hiding, starting with his swollen ankles. People were saying that Biden’s people were covering for him, well, it certainly is going on at the present. This is a cover-up that cannot be denied. we constantly see it and hear it with taco.
…along with his historically declining poll numbers, especially with independent voters.
Ashley Babbitt’s death was tragic, but by no means was it wrongful. She was with a group of people literally breaking into the Capital Building, the policeman were under attack so they had to defend themselves. She had no weapon, but they did not know that. There was no reason for a $30 million payout, or for the pardon of all those rioters and insurrectionists.
Shooting an unarmed woman coming through a window by a cop who, by the way had issues like leaving his service revolver in a public bathroom and shooting at a moving vehicle in his neighborhood. What a head case. Ya, black cop killing unarmed white woman, wonder how that works out if roles are reversed? Then to top it off, Pelosi awards Michael Byrd for valor!
Even you Jules, can’t be that stupid to believe this! Oh, wait.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/cop-who-killed-ashli-babbitt-has-significant-discipline-history-including-gun-incidents-report
Did the 4 killed at Kent State have
More of tacos lies. Nancy Pelosi did not have the power to call in the National Guard, it’s not in her job description. Only the president is allowed to call out the National Guard. Many people kept begging him to do it on J6, including his daughter Ivanka. Now that we don’t need them anywhere, he’s calling them out everywhere.
Awesome for her!!