Excellent reply to those wanting to promote selfish agendas. It is so hard to get the truth out without the biased media sabotaging the truth and the talking heads spewing scripted lies . I only pray that it is not too late to save our once great country.
5000 subscribers already! Job well done. Thanks for opening this alternative and interactive forum within our "progressive central coast". And bringing back the former, well-regarded opinion piece writers from the now departed SB NewsPress.
There was also a short-lived forum on Next Door titled "I am a conservative in a liberal city", which was also slowly growing every day. But the anonymous originator soon felt forced to close it down, since it was not set to "private" and allowed anyone to post.
Thus it apparently got quickly inundated by other posters, who were less than sympathetic being exposed to input from across a wider political spectrum. The need to express and share "conservative" points of view in this community did not go away. May the constructive dialogue continue.
"Well regarded"? The News Press? BAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Wendy McCaw fired all the well regarded reporters and filled that rag full of right wing LIES. What a joke!
It was sad what happened to that paper: I saw it firsthand as I worked there during that time. I had the last laugh by quitting before she could fire me.
We the People for New California State for Santa Barbara County would like to inform the public, city council members, school council members, Board of Supervisors county wide that there threats against the people and the US Constitution.We will be at the BOS meeting monday morning at 9am in Santa Barbara . We have notified the UnderSherriff, since Sherriff brown is out of town. Three days ago a sherriff in Butler County Ohio is warning the nation of the sherriffs association meeting with director of FBI Wray against our elections, and National security with Cyber attacks. https://youtu.be/NvNukzNQawo?si=ZMi12JHfWibQluv8
As an educated and globally well travelled U S citizen your right wing disposition embarrasses me. I will not support you and am cancelling out. Dr. gita L.
I am neither educated , (barely made it through high school) nor am I well-travelled, however I too see an emotionally-charged support of Trump in many of the comments. What is just as disturbing is those who agree with me that Trump is an arrogant tyrant fail to see how their own emotionally-charged support of leftism has driven so many voters to the breaking point and made Trump a politically-messianic figure in their eyes. The left fails to see how their race-baiting, virtue-signaling. and labeling anyone who questions their narrative as being "intolerant" had driven this country to the Right. Let us not forget which party has ruled California for the last half-century, and that the policies of that party are driving the working-class they claim to represent out of California, and into Red states.
I feel as though I'm a kid caught in a custody battle between two insane parents and I just want to go live with my grandparents.
I completely agree with every single comment here. The reason I say this is because I'm considering a possible political career and want to make sure I don't offend anyone.
I realize that 90+% of Americans are going to continue to support the status quo two-party system, but here is my take this. As for the border, cut the entitlements, thus de-incentivize the "pull" factor of illegal immigration. As for life overall, administration after administration, the national debt keeps going up, and more and more people become homeless, which means more of US become closer to becoming homeless.
I realize that people are too scared to face the fact that their false idols in both political parties are simply kicking the can further down the road, and on this site, Trump appeals to people's justified anger with his arrogance, insults, and immoral behavior, but in the end, nothing concrete will change.
By all that I see, Biden (who I think will either likely die, or more likely, resign by the end of the year due to health issues) doesn't have much chance in the next election. We can also assume that Trump is almost certainly going to be nominated by the Republicans, so whether he runs against Biden, Harris, or some other Democrat, I'd place my money on Trump, but again, his charming personality (sarcasm) while appealing the base emotions of so many of his followers, will not be the magic elixir for America, and even if he did have all the right ideas, don't forget, he alone can't make the change, as it takes a supportive Congress and Senate to make those changes.
I pray for this country, and agree that Leftists are destroying it, but so far, I'm not seeing much hope for (at least the immediate) future.
No stupid. Trump has been indicted on 91 DIFFERENT COUNTS, some of which are: FRAUD, RAPE, ( his real must-pay penalty is $83.3 Million dollars. Not debatable. He must pay.)
TAX EVASION, OVERINFLATING PROPERTY VALUE, CAUSING AN INSURRECTION, TRYING TO OVERTURN A LEGITIMATE VOTE BY AMERICAN VOTERS, and many others criminal acts.
TRY LISTENING AND READING INFORMATIVE VENUES: PBS, NPR, N.Y. REVIEW OF BOOKS, MSNBC, Atlantic Magazine, to inform yourself of facts. Fox has already been punished for lying about the Dominion ballot boxes to the tune of many millions. FOX is definitely incapable of presenting Facts and as you may know is considered by well-read, exceedingly knowledgeable people as an “OPINION “ entity, not a fact-based TV program.
I do not lie. If any of the sources I just named here DID lie, like FOX, they would be sued. They have not. FOX has.
As to this “ platform”….comments are selected by a biased Buckley….so we liberals are not all heard here, most likely because he doesn’t want to be confronted by the reality of the sham creature, Trump, who is so very unfit to be a candidate for the honorable position of the President of this beloved country. He has told the world through his praise of existing Dictators and his admission he will be a Dictator that he will not be beholden to the Constitution,…. An absolute requirement for a Presidential Candidate of the U.S.
How lucky for you , old man, to have this platform so you can continue to spread your lies and gross misinformation.
You are SO WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING YOUVE SAID. If you can not see that the Evil One has….in the Courts of Law of our United State, and according to the Constitution of these United States …… been indicted on 91 ….NINETY ONE …..counts, you are indeed unforgivably stupid.
Did all those prosecutor INVENT his breaking the laws of this country?
Don’t answer; you are clearly handicapped in your capacity for grasping truth.
Nancy- How evil of you; yet another ad hominem attack by a lib. Did you attend the Rachel Maddow school of one sentence replies? Your favorite course was likely "Marxist Propaganda?"
“How lucky for you , old man, to have this platform so you can continue to spread your lies and gross misinformation. “
Nancy, Well, looks like you are lucky as well to have this platform to spew your lies and gross information! So it’s a win/win! 😃
One question, are you also an old man? I know Nancy is usually a feminine name but this is 2024 and 🤷♂️ you do seem to be emanating those kind of ornery and pissed off old man get off my lawn vibes you know what I mean?
“You are SO WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING YOUVE SAID.”
Nancy, all I can say to that is …I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?? and I’M RUBBER YOU’RE GLUE….😂! What about everything he has written? Is that wrong too? Man, you really can’t believe everything you read on the interwebs, can you? 🤷♂️
“If you can not see that the Evil One has…”
OMG! The “Evil One”??? Seriously? He’s here too? What do I get if I agree with “The Evil One” ? Does he offer a 401K and maybe dental? I am open minded about these things!
“….in the Courts of Law of our United State, and according to the Constitution of these United States …… been indicted on 91 ….NINETY ONE …..counts, you are indeed unforgivably stupid.
Did all those prosecutor INVENT his breaking the laws of this country? “
Well, yes they did invent them all. it’s called “trumped” up charges.
“And “91…NINETY ONE…counts”
😂😂😃… you do realize that if any of them were true, even remotely valid, would not only one count be sufficient?
“Don’t answer; you are clearly handicapped in your capacity for grasping truth.”
Did you just call Jim handicapped? Does that mean he is differently-abled and in a protected class? You are clearly an ablest ! You can’t tell Jim what to do anymore you must listen to everything he says; and if you don’t, I’ll call you names and sue! 😂
One last question for you if everything we say is a lie and I say “ you are correct” doesn’t that mean you are lying? 🤔
PATHETIC! How anyone could support Trump, a lying narcissistic, wanna-be dictator, fascist, woman-hating-pig, twice impeached, insurrectionist BLOWHARD is 100% beyond me! The man has no class, no morals, no dignity. He has spewed Nazi era bigoted propaganda. He is abhorrent and truly a national embarrassment. The rest of the world looks upon America with Trump and wonders what the hell happened to us. Trump is like a toddler on Twitter. He makes me sick, and if you think he would protect democracy, you've got another thing coming!! And to all you Republicans wanking about "FREEDOM", what about WOMEN'S FREEDOM OF CHOICE to do whatever they choose with their essential healthcare and reproductive lives?!!! The hypocrisy is glaring and ugly.
The "unborn" is a term made up to elicit emotion. Abortion consists of removing a clump of unformed unwanted( or harmful in the case of eptopic or other medical emergency situations) cells. God is something that some people believe in and others do not. Our country is NOT a christian nation, it is a country in which you are FREE to be christian if you want to be. OUR COUNTRY NOT YOUR CHURCH!!! Keep church and state separate. By the way, the Bible itself states that life "begins at first breath" and Jesus never once mentioned abortion. The anti-choice movement is a new thing, white evangelicals in the 1970's literally did not care about abortion, they considered it a Catholic thing. Evangelicals organized to defend racial segregation in evangelical institutions (*See Bob Jones University) -- and only seized upon abortion because it was more palatable than their original goal.
I have all of this on factual record and can provide receipts.
Also, a woman's body is no less important than a man's and NO man shall tell any woman what she can or cannot do with her own self. THIS IS AMERICA. Get your laws OUT of our uteruses!!!
Life begins at conception. To believe otherwise requires a religious fallacy. Of all the marvels in our modern world, little surpasses the creation of a human life at the moment of conception. That is the starting point. That is also the sticking point in the failure of the current dialogue.
“Life begins at conception. To believe otherwise requires a religious fallacy.”
My apologies but you are incorrect. It is NOT a religious fallacy.
Life does begin at conception. To believe otherwise is a LOGICAL and SCIENTIFIC FALLACY. It also exhibits a certain cognitive dissonance with the reality of what is taking place, namely infanticide. (Baby killing by their own mothers. No other animal in the animal kingdom does this or even conceives of doing this)
The last time period that exhibited such a willful ignorance of reality was the ownership and killing of slaves in the 19th century.
Remember, in the 19th century people in this country believed that Africans we’re not even human (a clump of cells?) and were the property of slave owners, and that no one should have the right to tell us what we could or could not do with them our property. Sound familiar?
Look at you men, thinking you have some agency over what WOMEN do with their bodies and lives. SIT DOWN. It's not up to you or the government or anyone else.
Technical question: If a woman can no longer conceive (perhaps due to age) and/or is no longer sexually active, should she sit down too? Is it only the ability to carry a baby to term that gives one the right to opine upon its viability and value?
This has been an argument for decades and you cannot prove that life begins at conception. It is STILL the woman's body and life that is the important thing here. Women choose whether or not they want to remain pregnant. Forcing pregnancy is a human rights violation. No one can be forced to donate an organ or donate blood to save another's life, how is forcing pregnancy any different? Any woman who is forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy against her will has had her life and all of her rights subordinated to those of her fetus. That makes her ipso facton not a full citizen protected by the freedoms of life and liberty in this country. The claim that life begins at conception is a religious belief and NOT a scientific fact. Laws against abortion therefor violate the separation of Church and State. PERIOD.
At conception a new human life has been created. From this point forward is no longer only a "woman's body" at stake. The mother has now entered into what is akin to a landlord-tenant relationship; mother and child. Start with awe for the divine spark created when two separate strands of DNA have joined that now has only one future direction - the creation of a new human life. Please handle this moment of creation with due care.
Accept this basic fundamental fact first, and then add your own qualifications later. When should a mother be able to voluntarily and unilaterally terminate the life of this new human being? There are not easy answers. Nor is there undue burden to the mother besides the requisite and biologically programmed months of physical inconvenience, since many unplanned pregnancies do end in adoption and the mother's biological gestation role is soon over.
Your canned scripted reply is so obvious (CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC. ) The first right and most important right, is the right to Life. You are taking that right away from the child. Also, if you love killing children so much, why not stop taking tax payer's money to do it and start using your own money for starters.
Excellent reply to those wanting to promote selfish agendas. It is so hard to get the truth out without the biased media sabotaging the truth and the talking heads spewing scripted lies . I only pray that it is not too late to save our once great country.
Which "selfish agenda" exactly, are you talking about, please?
5000 subscribers already! Job well done. Thanks for opening this alternative and interactive forum within our "progressive central coast". And bringing back the former, well-regarded opinion piece writers from the now departed SB NewsPress.
There was also a short-lived forum on Next Door titled "I am a conservative in a liberal city", which was also slowly growing every day. But the anonymous originator soon felt forced to close it down, since it was not set to "private" and allowed anyone to post.
Thus it apparently got quickly inundated by other posters, who were less than sympathetic being exposed to input from across a wider political spectrum. The need to express and share "conservative" points of view in this community did not go away. May the constructive dialogue continue.
"Well regarded"? The News Press? BAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Wendy McCaw fired all the well regarded reporters and filled that rag full of right wing LIES. What a joke!
Well Sheryl the owner of ANY newspaper can do what they want to do with their staff. It is their newspaper!
That is not the point Sheryl Schroeder raised.
It was sad what happened to that paper: I saw it firsthand as I worked there during that time. I had the last laugh by quitting before she could fire me.
Nice reply, Buckley. I personally don’t have the patience for responding to the “whatabout…?” Crowd.
I consider whataboutism to be the last refuge of the incompetent and uninformed.
Essentially, not worthy of my time or effort. Like arguing with a child throwing a tantrum on the floor of Walmart.
Eric, you are right about that. It certainly is not a rewarding endeavour. But, we've got to keep trying.
Excellent analysis, thorough rebuttals.
We the People for New California State for Santa Barbara County would like to inform the public, city council members, school council members, Board of Supervisors county wide that there threats against the people and the US Constitution.We will be at the BOS meeting monday morning at 9am in Santa Barbara . We have notified the UnderSherriff, since Sherriff brown is out of town. Three days ago a sherriff in Butler County Ohio is warning the nation of the sherriffs association meeting with director of FBI Wray against our elections, and National security with Cyber attacks. https://youtu.be/NvNukzNQawo?si=ZMi12JHfWibQluv8
Wouldn't be interesting to see your comment if your parents thought and acted as you do. Hmmm we would NOT be having this conversation. What a shame.
As an educated and globally well travelled U S citizen your right wing disposition embarrasses me. I will not support you and am cancelling out. Dr. gita L.
FYI Dr Labrentz: Other ...."educated and globally well traveled US citizens".... do find this forum to be a very welcome breath of fresh air.
I am neither educated , (barely made it through high school) nor am I well-travelled, however I too see an emotionally-charged support of Trump in many of the comments. What is just as disturbing is those who agree with me that Trump is an arrogant tyrant fail to see how their own emotionally-charged support of leftism has driven so many voters to the breaking point and made Trump a politically-messianic figure in their eyes. The left fails to see how their race-baiting, virtue-signaling. and labeling anyone who questions their narrative as being "intolerant" had driven this country to the Right. Let us not forget which party has ruled California for the last half-century, and that the policies of that party are driving the working-class they claim to represent out of California, and into Red states.
I feel as though I'm a kid caught in a custody battle between two insane parents and I just want to go live with my grandparents.
I completely agree with every single comment here. The reason I say this is because I'm considering a possible political career and want to make sure I don't offend anyone.
I realize that 90+% of Americans are going to continue to support the status quo two-party system, but here is my take this. As for the border, cut the entitlements, thus de-incentivize the "pull" factor of illegal immigration. As for life overall, administration after administration, the national debt keeps going up, and more and more people become homeless, which means more of US become closer to becoming homeless.
I realize that people are too scared to face the fact that their false idols in both political parties are simply kicking the can further down the road, and on this site, Trump appeals to people's justified anger with his arrogance, insults, and immoral behavior, but in the end, nothing concrete will change.
By all that I see, Biden (who I think will either likely die, or more likely, resign by the end of the year due to health issues) doesn't have much chance in the next election. We can also assume that Trump is almost certainly going to be nominated by the Republicans, so whether he runs against Biden, Harris, or some other Democrat, I'd place my money on Trump, but again, his charming personality (sarcasm) while appealing the base emotions of so many of his followers, will not be the magic elixir for America, and even if he did have all the right ideas, don't forget, he alone can't make the change, as it takes a supportive Congress and Senate to make those changes.
I pray for this country, and agree that Leftists are destroying it, but so far, I'm not seeing much hope for (at least the immediate) future.
No stupid. Trump has been indicted on 91 DIFFERENT COUNTS, some of which are: FRAUD, RAPE, ( his real must-pay penalty is $83.3 Million dollars. Not debatable. He must pay.)
TAX EVASION, OVERINFLATING PROPERTY VALUE, CAUSING AN INSURRECTION, TRYING TO OVERTURN A LEGITIMATE VOTE BY AMERICAN VOTERS, and many others criminal acts.
TRY LISTENING AND READING INFORMATIVE VENUES: PBS, NPR, N.Y. REVIEW OF BOOKS, MSNBC, Atlantic Magazine, to inform yourself of facts. Fox has already been punished for lying about the Dominion ballot boxes to the tune of many millions. FOX is definitely incapable of presenting Facts and as you may know is considered by well-read, exceedingly knowledgeable people as an “OPINION “ entity, not a fact-based TV program.
I do not lie. If any of the sources I just named here DID lie, like FOX, they would be sued. They have not. FOX has.
As to this “ platform”….comments are selected by a biased Buckley….so we liberals are not all heard here, most likely because he doesn’t want to be confronted by the reality of the sham creature, Trump, who is so very unfit to be a candidate for the honorable position of the President of this beloved country. He has told the world through his praise of existing Dictators and his admission he will be a Dictator that he will not be beholden to the Constitution,…. An absolute requirement for a Presidential Candidate of the U.S.
Does this mean you won't be voting for Trumpy?
Ho hum, another Deplorable who can’t read.
And of course, only selected comments are allowed here…how VERY Democratic!
Another demented-sounding Deplorable. Ho-Hum.
How lucky for you , old man, to have this platform so you can continue to spread your lies and gross misinformation.
You are SO WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING YOUVE SAID. If you can not see that the Evil One has….in the Courts of Law of our United State, and according to the Constitution of these United States …… been indicted on 91 ….NINETY ONE …..counts, you are indeed unforgivably stupid.
Did all those prosecutor INVENT his breaking the laws of this country?
Don’t answer; you are clearly handicapped in your capacity for grasping truth.
Nancy- How evil of you; yet another ad hominem attack by a lib. Did you attend the Rachel Maddow school of one sentence replies? Your favorite course was likely "Marxist Propaganda?"
“How lucky for you , old man, to have this platform so you can continue to spread your lies and gross misinformation. “
Nancy, Well, looks like you are lucky as well to have this platform to spew your lies and gross information! So it’s a win/win! 😃
One question, are you also an old man? I know Nancy is usually a feminine name but this is 2024 and 🤷♂️ you do seem to be emanating those kind of ornery and pissed off old man get off my lawn vibes you know what I mean?
“You are SO WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING YOUVE SAID.”
Nancy, all I can say to that is …I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?? and I’M RUBBER YOU’RE GLUE….😂! What about everything he has written? Is that wrong too? Man, you really can’t believe everything you read on the interwebs, can you? 🤷♂️
“If you can not see that the Evil One has…”
OMG! The “Evil One”??? Seriously? He’s here too? What do I get if I agree with “The Evil One” ? Does he offer a 401K and maybe dental? I am open minded about these things!
“….in the Courts of Law of our United State, and according to the Constitution of these United States …… been indicted on 91 ….NINETY ONE …..counts, you are indeed unforgivably stupid.
Did all those prosecutor INVENT his breaking the laws of this country? “
Well, yes they did invent them all. it’s called “trumped” up charges.
“And “91…NINETY ONE…counts”
😂😂😃… you do realize that if any of them were true, even remotely valid, would not only one count be sufficient?
“Don’t answer; you are clearly handicapped in your capacity for grasping truth.”
Did you just call Jim handicapped? Does that mean he is differently-abled and in a protected class? You are clearly an ablest ! You can’t tell Jim what to do anymore you must listen to everything he says; and if you don’t, I’ll call you names and sue! 😂
One last question for you if everything we say is a lie and I say “ you are correct” doesn’t that mean you are lying? 🤔
Apparently yours and only yours as noted in your desire to kill innocent children.
PATHETIC! How anyone could support Trump, a lying narcissistic, wanna-be dictator, fascist, woman-hating-pig, twice impeached, insurrectionist BLOWHARD is 100% beyond me! The man has no class, no morals, no dignity. He has spewed Nazi era bigoted propaganda. He is abhorrent and truly a national embarrassment. The rest of the world looks upon America with Trump and wonders what the hell happened to us. Trump is like a toddler on Twitter. He makes me sick, and if you think he would protect democracy, you've got another thing coming!! And to all you Republicans wanking about "FREEDOM", what about WOMEN'S FREEDOM OF CHOICE to do whatever they choose with their essential healthcare and reproductive lives?!!! The hypocrisy is glaring and ugly.
Another selfish human. What about the rights of the unborn, who will stand to protect the innocent? Who are you to play God.
The "unborn" is a term made up to elicit emotion. Abortion consists of removing a clump of unformed unwanted( or harmful in the case of eptopic or other medical emergency situations) cells. God is something that some people believe in and others do not. Our country is NOT a christian nation, it is a country in which you are FREE to be christian if you want to be. OUR COUNTRY NOT YOUR CHURCH!!! Keep church and state separate. By the way, the Bible itself states that life "begins at first breath" and Jesus never once mentioned abortion. The anti-choice movement is a new thing, white evangelicals in the 1970's literally did not care about abortion, they considered it a Catholic thing. Evangelicals organized to defend racial segregation in evangelical institutions (*See Bob Jones University) -- and only seized upon abortion because it was more palatable than their original goal.
I have all of this on factual record and can provide receipts.
Also, a woman's body is no less important than a man's and NO man shall tell any woman what she can or cannot do with her own self. THIS IS AMERICA. Get your laws OUT of our uteruses!!!
Life begins at conception. To believe otherwise requires a religious fallacy. Of all the marvels in our modern world, little surpasses the creation of a human life at the moment of conception. That is the starting point. That is also the sticking point in the failure of the current dialogue.
“Life begins at conception. To believe otherwise requires a religious fallacy.”
My apologies but you are incorrect. It is NOT a religious fallacy.
Life does begin at conception. To believe otherwise is a LOGICAL and SCIENTIFIC FALLACY. It also exhibits a certain cognitive dissonance with the reality of what is taking place, namely infanticide. (Baby killing by their own mothers. No other animal in the animal kingdom does this or even conceives of doing this)
The last time period that exhibited such a willful ignorance of reality was the ownership and killing of slaves in the 19th century.
Remember, in the 19th century people in this country believed that Africans we’re not even human (a clump of cells?) and were the property of slave owners, and that no one should have the right to tell us what we could or could not do with them our property. Sound familiar?
Look at you men, thinking you have some agency over what WOMEN do with their bodies and lives. SIT DOWN. It's not up to you or the government or anyone else.
Technical question: If a woman can no longer conceive (perhaps due to age) and/or is no longer sexually active, should she sit down too? Is it only the ability to carry a baby to term that gives one the right to opine upon its viability and value?
This has been an argument for decades and you cannot prove that life begins at conception. It is STILL the woman's body and life that is the important thing here. Women choose whether or not they want to remain pregnant. Forcing pregnancy is a human rights violation. No one can be forced to donate an organ or donate blood to save another's life, how is forcing pregnancy any different? Any woman who is forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy against her will has had her life and all of her rights subordinated to those of her fetus. That makes her ipso facton not a full citizen protected by the freedoms of life and liberty in this country. The claim that life begins at conception is a religious belief and NOT a scientific fact. Laws against abortion therefor violate the separation of Church and State. PERIOD.
At conception a new human life has been created. From this point forward is no longer only a "woman's body" at stake. The mother has now entered into what is akin to a landlord-tenant relationship; mother and child. Start with awe for the divine spark created when two separate strands of DNA have joined that now has only one future direction - the creation of a new human life. Please handle this moment of creation with due care.
Accept this basic fundamental fact first, and then add your own qualifications later. When should a mother be able to voluntarily and unilaterally terminate the life of this new human being? There are not easy answers. Nor is there undue burden to the mother besides the requisite and biologically programmed months of physical inconvenience, since many unplanned pregnancies do end in adoption and the mother's biological gestation role is soon over.
Your canned scripted reply is so obvious (CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC. ) The first right and most important right, is the right to Life. You are taking that right away from the child. Also, if you love killing children so much, why not stop taking tax payer's money to do it and start using your own money for starters.
Why don't you show some self control of what you put into your uterus and maybe we wouldn't be talking about this and not killing children?
Hmmm you have that ability of self control.
And please don't use your last resort comment to call all unwanted pregnancy rape. And we all know that is not what this is about.