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Peter L Spinetta's avatar

What bothers me even more than the trained terrorists are that so many of our fellow Americans empathize with them, truly suicidal.

Aimee Smith's avatar

Our job is to learn how this is pulled off. What is the messaging? How are people manipulated? What was it that made so many otherwise relatively sane people fall for BLM? How did media manipulation manage to make 90% of Americans into do or die Ukraine nationalists in the space of around 2 weeks? This is what we need to understand so we can help friends and neighbors avoid being manipulated and used to fight against morality and their own interests.

Earl Brown's avatar

How Aimee? Because most people are _just plain stupid!_

GM's avatar

I believe it's the Media and the message being said over and over and it's believed. Possible brainwashing or Jedi Mind Control.

Clean up their pineal gland and stop all vaccines,for a medical solution.

TVW's avatar

On the other side of that coin, you can take hope. If you engage them in an attempt to have a meaningful dialogue you will quickly see they have no depth, no factual knowledge or historical reference. They are either operating on irrational emotion and/or what their masters are telling them what to do/say/think. The recent walk out from schools illustrates that point.

Matt Escobedo's avatar

Every death is a tragedy. But the level of obstruction and threat ICE officers face seems to be a bigger problem. Even though past administrations deported more, there is a disease and it’s called TDS! Common sense on the left has disappeared.

Steve Johnson's avatar

Why are we not seeing videos of masked ICE agents arresting employers of undocumented immigrants?

Bill Potts's avatar

Good question. If anyone needs to be exposed it's these employers and celebrities, politicians,and others who hire them.

Dan O. Seibert's avatar

Because some of the very people that visit this site would be arrested.

GM's avatar

How do we know they aren't?

Veronica Haynie's avatar

Agree with everything in this piece. The left is dangerously treading on seditious waters….what’s the difference between them and the southern agitators in the pre civil war? Or even the KKK under Reconstruction. Where are they getting their financial support? Minneapolis needs to be put down -should have happened quickly. Now places like Portland, Seattle and Los Angeles will follow suit, emboldened by media support and public outcry over the 2 deaths in Minneapolis (their own fault).

LT's avatar
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Do I feel remorse for Alex Pretti coming to a supposed “peaceful demonstration” armed with a tactical semiautomatic pistol, loaded with 2 full clips, then deciding to assault and get into a scuffle with armed, Federal Ice Agents? NO, I DON’T.

These are the FACTS we know about Alex Pretti so far:

Pretti quit or was fired from his job as a VA Nurse weeks earlier for questionable behavior.

Pretti’s own Father warned him about attending this specific protest and “not to do something STUPID.”

Pretti was subsequently involved with an assault of Ice Agents and vandalism of ICE vehicle weeks earlier.

Pretti possessed controlled, unprescribed substances (Benzodiazepine) found in his home during search.

Pretti posted bizarre photos with sexual and transgender overtones earlier on social media.

Pretti belonged to organized groups using signal chat texting to coordinate attacks on ICE Agents, communicating location of ICE agents using encrypted license plate reading technology.

The timing of the Minneapolis Insurrection is very interesting. Yes, it would seem the timing of destruction of private and public property, assaulting of federal agents through coordinated attacks, doxing of federal agents and vandalizing hotels which are housing ICE agents all began AFTER fraud allegations were made against Minnesota elected officials.

Sure, suitcases stuffed with millions of tax dollars, leaving Minneapolis International Airport headed for Somalia and Kenya, for funding among other things, a known terrorist organization, Al Shabaab. Multiple Somali fraud schemes have been uncovered involving daycares, home health, Autism charity and patient transport services.

Then POOF, after which all hell breaks loose with assaults, intimidation, harassment and insurrection occurring against federal agents.

You simply can’t make this stuff up that the Democratic Party has morphed into a hate group, manifested by fear, intimidation and funded by massive fraud, involving multi-state social services!

All codified by the media In order to spin the narrative and paint the President and administration as “Nazis,” and worshipping Christians as “white supremacists.”

These events, perpetrated by thugs, serving as agents for the Democratic Party are taken directly from the pages of “Rules for Radicals,” by Saul Alinsky.

Time to bring in the troops folks and back up the Paddy Wagon!

I keep hearing from the left: “say his name, say his name!” Okay, Alex Pretti, was a disturbed, violent criminal, who got exactly what he had coming.

John Thomas's avatar

Most of those "Facts" are total BS. Do your own research - start with the first one.

Earl Brown's avatar

They are not BS - it's a good read and street logic.

John Thomas's avatar

Words of wisdom coming from you.

LT's avatar

Ya, I read “BS” and your name immediately appears. What part is untrue, Cowboy?

Lunna29's avatar

How much of this is relevant to a man with a camera in his hand being beaten and then shot to death be 5 armed agents? He did not assault anyone. Where do you det your deranged information from.

GM's avatar
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A camera doesn't have 2 loaded magazines. That's a good one from the MSM or Indivisible or maybe even Ryan Cruz the journalist for SB Independent.

The guy was arrested before that event on 1/13.

He was not an innocent bystander and was trained and or a paid agitator.

Maybe the infiltrated Signal Chat will tell us more.

LT's avatar
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No, what’s truly “deranged” is wrestling with federal law enforcement with a loaded handgun which has a known tendency to discharge. Get your facts straight.

Dan O. Seibert's avatar

LOL, "Know tendency to discharge." That's funny.

I watched many different videos of each protest and I never saw him pull the gun. Seriously, in the first incident the gun is clearly visible in his waistband. How come the ICE agents didn't kill him on that day?

LT's avatar

The issue of this type of Sig Sauer going off accidentally is going by the wayside, except in this case, in which that may be exactly what happened. Causing a massive response from law enforcement. This particular pistol was modified by Pretti so as to accommodate a silencer.

Wondering why he needed that?

Earl Brown's avatar

Right on LT. The question is, why did he bring the gun in the first place?

Dan O. Seibert's avatar

I can't respond. I also can't explain the miracle bullet that was found next to JFK.

Daniel  Cerf's avatar

Thank you for the research and thoughtful article.

I tend to agree with Mike, "wag the dog" is in play here. Also concerned with the number of agents brought in to enforce the law. What going on here. I was saying from day one what's with the gun and ammo, I know it was Alex's legal right to carry, but common sense says to leave gun home if I am going to be involved in an angry protest. It will be interesting to see the results of the investigation.

Cate's avatar
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Q: WHY the large number of ICE agents? A: SANCTUARY policy (unlawful in itself) of zero cooperation + violent thugs who aim to block warranted removal from this country.

David Renner's avatar

"concerned with the number of agents brought in to enforce the law" >> because the lack of cooperation and support from the local police. If they could go to the jails and take the illegal immigrant/criminals and deport them, then Ice wouldn't need thousands of personnel to operate. Sound familiar?

GM's avatar

Yes,and the 2 loaded Magazines.

Robert Johnson's avatar

But apparently you (GM & Daniel) are okay with the January 6 protestors who came armed to the Capitol?

Jeff barton's avatar

Name one J6 protester who was armed inside of the capitol building and what was the weapon? I am aware of none unless you consider a flagpole a weapon.

Jeff barton's avatar

All of the far left news sources like Reuters like to post headlines (click bait) about j6 protesters possessing guns. As far as I have been able to establish these weapons were all outside of the Capitol building not inside. Some may have had pocket knives but I am talking about guns. To me, Fox is too left wing for my taste.

GM's avatar

Yup. No guns were found. Only thing found was the pipe bomb which seems to be a person closely involved with Nancy Pelosi.

Julia Gonzales's avatar

Well, apparently, a lot of the J Sixers did consider it a weapon as they continued to beat the capital police with them.

GM's avatar

How did you deduce that from what I wrote? Don't post things that are immaculate. Please retract your statement.

Earl Brown's avatar

GM - are you referring to your '2 loaded magazines' statement?

GM's avatar

Not sure.

TVW's avatar

Focus Robert. Focus.

GM's avatar

I'm discussing the issue at hand. Don't deflect.

TVW's avatar

Deflecting is the name of the game. I have no doubt that much of this bizarre animal like behavior going on in places like Minneapolis and Los Angeles is to deflect the bigger story of the massive corruption, not only in Minnesota, but in California. That's not the story the news wants to cover. They have a lot of sympathetic tools/fools who will help them to that end...including locally.

GM's avatar

I believe that too. And now in LA. Massive fraud in California too

John Thomas's avatar

"But Biden..." oh, yeah, that's not a deflection.

GM's avatar
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Biden is more than a deflection. He is actually the cause of all these problems

Lunna29's avatar

What about all the folks at the Jan 6 “protest”. Should they have left their weapons home?

LT's avatar

Oh wait, you mean the murder of unarmed Ashley Babbitt by head case cop, Michael Byrd? Ya, the same cop rumored to be running a daycare scam?

John Thomas's avatar

At least you use the word 'rumored' on that piece of BS.

LT's avatar
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Ya, you would know about BS, right JT? You surprise me, I had you pegged as a Law and Order type? BTW, hear the latest about SBCO Sheriff getting arrested for massive overtime scam? Sure it’s just isolated, right? Oh well, plenty will come out in the months ahead with DOGE at the County level.

John Thomas's avatar

No doubt on the overtime round-up. Every police and fire guy I know racks it in the last few years to up their pension.

Earl Brown's avatar

Right. It's not fraud - it's 'final adjustment'. S.O.P.

TVW's avatar

On the money John!...as do many government employees in a position to do so. It's immoral and abusive...and supported by the people in power...scratching each other's backs. Almost bankrupted San Diego a number of years ago.

GM's avatar

Yeah,there's already a new Fraud department and they are already disclosing the Fraud coming straight from Newsom and buddies. Trump is taking over the Palisades building because Newsom funnles the money to his wife's NGO and others.

There is a lot of Fraud even is SB whether it's the Sheriff or the Cannabis or the green new deal scam.

If you're connecting the Sheriff to Trumps administration,they are also not Federal agents,and independent elected officials.

GM's avatar

I think you need to go back and study this topic again. An older lady and a man who took a podium,I believe. The Capitol police were the ones that shot Ashley Babit. The bomber recently was identified connecting to Pelosi,I'm sure.

GM's avatar

What weapons? I think you are confused. They stormed the capital and did their time in jail for their"crimes".

Julia Gonzales's avatar

A few might’ve done some time, but all their time? Someone was in a hurry to give them all a pardon, no matter the level of their terrorizing insurrectionist levels of actions.

TVW's avatar

You mean like the thousands of hardcore felons pardoned by Biden's "handlers" using the autopen?...except Trump's pardons were actually signed by him. Picky, picky...right??

GM's avatar

Amy did time. How many were there like 10? Walking through after the security guard left the door open.

Nissenson Michael's avatar

I agree with almost all your points. However, you have left out issues I find essential. This admin has released almost no stats as to how many people have been deported or detained who have no major criminal record, and have asylum hearings scheduled. The facts that prior admins have had significant deportation records begs to know what are this admin's data? To me, this time it is all about theatre. I feel these TV worthy methods are backfiring.

TVW's avatar
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Collateral damage.

Tom Holman was very clear from the outset there would be ancillary arrests of illegal aliens in the initial process of apprehending illegals with final deportation orders... particularly in sanctuary cities. Many of those extraneous arrests and deportations are the result of those illegals in the streets actively resisting legitimate law enforcement activity...not by knocking on doors.

Regardless, if one has voluntarily entered this country illegally should they not be sent HOME ?

It is somewhat ironic the recent overdue crackdown on illegal immigration is attributable to Biden. Millions have been able to skirt the system with the help of compliant politicians...at all levels. Biden blew open the doors with mind boggling numbers of unvetted "migrants" including hard core criminals. The pig became a hog. Time to clean up the mess created equally by Democrats and Republicans.

Bill Potts's avatar

I agree wholeheartedly.

Earl Brown's avatar

Absolutey right on.

Bill Potts's avatar

If I remember correctly, the prior administrations deportation records weren't released by them,but the press and media did. There was no comment about it, except for people seeking attention like AOC. It's political theatre because the biased media have made it so. No mention is made of President Clinton's stand on immigration while in office and President Reagan caved in by granting amnesty. Now because of social media,and technology,private messaging you have total lack of respect for Federal law,and for law enforcement. Neither party has addressed this until now. And because it's Trump it must be bad. I'm tired of the hypocrisy and double standards. Peaceful protests are fine,it's when you cross over the line as has been done now and during the BLM riots is where I have a problem. And the coverage of the protests by the media only incites more of the same.

Matt Escobedo's avatar

ICE Statistics Page: ICE publishes dashboards, reports, and data on arrests, detentions, removals, and related enforcement activities at ice.gov/statistics. This includes Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) reports, which break down removals by fiscal year, often with historical comparisons. Older annual reports (e.g., fiscal year-specific ERO reports) are archived there.

Cate's avatar

Deportation data is available to everyone. Easy to find. Up to date and easy to read. 🟣. Thanks Matt for your personal time to REPOST links that Homan, Noem, and the Trump admin share EVERY DAY on official government websites

GM's avatar

If you go to the DHS website you can find some of info but statistics would be good to present. But will the left acknowledge even their accuracy or deny it?

I've shared all the videos of the Good interaction and most are unwilling to look at them. Only the first one,of course,from the MSM, because they say that's"all they need to know."

Burton H Voorhees's avatar

What is the difference between a MAGA Deranged Trump Supporter who brings a gun to a demonstration and a Liberal anti-Trump anti-ICE protester who brings a gun to a demonstration?

The MAGA guy shoots somebody and is acclaimed for it.

The Liberal gets shot and is blamed for it.

I watched the videos and believe my eyes rather than the lies.

TVW's avatar
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Be specific please. Are you referring to the former nurse who quit his job and dedicated his time to physically interfering with an ongoing law-enforcement actions...on at least two occasions? Or?

Burton H Voorhees's avatar

Blame the victim, disparage his parentage, beliefs, and so on. Certainly don't admit that he is one of us (the good guys).

TVW's avatar

what his Physcial interactions w/ law enforcement...have any comment on that? I don't know what you're talking about his parents. I did read that they had commented that he went off the rails, but I did not reference that. I feel sorry for anybody that is mentally disturbed and I don't think there's too much question that this guy had significant mental issues. Not because he opposed the removal of criminal illegal aliens from his hometown, but because you didn't know how to handle his anger watching law-enforcement remove those criminal illegal aliens. He could've just as easily marched around with one of those silly pre-fabricated signs expressing displeasure and not physically engaged.

What do you mean by "good guys".... people who support the aforementioned criminal illegal aliens? Is that your definition of good guys? Really? Revealing.

Burton H Voorhees's avatar

Look at your projections, try to sort out what is real from what is made up by various influencers (on both sides). And you do realize that many of those removed are illegal only in that they are in the country illegally, they have not committed crimes. And some are legally here, or even citizens.

TVW's avatar

Absurd. What's your point? Are they illegal or not? Such a silly specious point to make. You mean they are less pregnant?

Burton H Voorhees's avatar

There is a Dutch phrase that means "not exactly kosher but tolerated for now." If somebody has been in the country for some time, works and pays taxes, has been a good neighbor, and has no criminal record then as far as I'm concerned they're at the back of the list for deportation, not somebody who can be grabbed off the streets. BTW, I look at some fact checkers about the two citizens who were murdered by ICE--the various slurs on their character are false memes, some coming from a meme factory in Vietnam.

Julia Gonzales's avatar

That last part of your comment that says, Alex Peretti should “not have physically engaged”. He was trying to help two women that were being manhandled and sprayed by whatever agents those were, one woman was physically pushed to the ground. How could anyone not have physically engaged to help those women against seven or eight thugs?

TVW's avatar

Seriously ??? You take a nanosecond snapshot and construct an entire scenario around that...no context...no before or after??? You are the meat an potatoes of MSNOW...CNN...etc...without you folks that could not survive. I appreciate having filters...but not blinders.

Dan O. Seibert's avatar

Great post! I lived in Phoenix from 1969 to 1985. Loved the Firesign Theater. . . and Dr. Demento.

Mark's avatar

The Democrats run around screaming “no kings”. When you have a group, or an individual. That appoint themselves as the law, and ignore the established society laws. You have a group, or individual that are saying. They are the king, and arbitrarily say what the law is. If the Democrats say “no one is above the law”, then individuals who have entered the country illegally.They should not be considered above the law. So what do we have? We have a Democrat party that believes they are the king, and they dictate who is, or isn’t above the law. They are hypocrites.

Lunna29's avatar

Why do you think everyone who disagrees with current enforcement are all democrats. They are not.

TVW's avatar

Agree....nor are all those who support enforcement of long standing federal law all Republicans...I'm not. Let's agree to call those filks Patriots. Kumbaya.

Michael Callahan's avatar

You make a very good point “Why bring a guy to a peaceful protest?” And I have a simple suggestion: Don’t allow the ICE agents to bring guns to peaceful protests. I believe if you look at other democracies you will find they are able to control peaceful demonstration and avoid deadly incidents without guns.

Earl Brown's avatar

ICE agents don't carry weapons at a riot? Your kidding, right? "Peaceful demonstrations' - yeah, right.

Michael Callahan's avatar

They do a pretty good job with clubs, mace and tear gas. At least most of these victims are still alive.

LT's avatar

Where would that be Callahan? London, Paris, Brussels, Hamburg….not!

Jeffrey Harding's avatar

Andy, I think you are an excellent commentator, but your analysis of the Good and Pretti murders is based on exaggeration and incorrect statement of facts. It is clear these were murders which means unjustified killings. They are the reason Republicans will lose one of the houses of Congress in the midterms.

david mccalmont's avatar

The "Independent Mind" is showing his true colors. He says a few nasty words about Kamala Harris, and thinks the whole world should operate according to Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations". But every time, push comes to shove, the "Independent Mind" takes sides in a real world contest, he lowers the hammer on Donald Trump and every issue of importance to the Right. This may be considered "independent thinking" in the 93108 zipcode. Anywhere else, it's simply someone exercising Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Candace Corbani's avatar

I am a proud unpaid, untrained protester appalled at the cruelty and dehumanization I am seeing with my own eyes taking place nationally run by two former felons. You have supported gun rights strongly over the years and NOW you back off? Does this regime end in a bunker?

Aimee Smith's avatar

Why can't those who are coordinating to disrupt law enforcement be charged under rico? Thoughts?

Kristiann's avatar

Thank you Andy. When you describe it so well, it makes sense as to what the real motives for the 'protesting' may be. The graph you provided shows that, yes, every Administration has done the same to remove criminals who came to our Country illegally, but there didn't seem to be much media coverage during those Administrations as you indicated. It reminds me of the protests during the pandemic. The media seems to fuel the fire, and the loss of life is what makes it so tragic. The reasons for all of this are anyone's guess, but you made a great point about some of these particular protestors being so organized, potentially trained, carrying weapons and doing so much damage. I saw on the news that some were destroying the hotel where ICE agents were. That's not peaceful protesting.

Earl Brown's avatar

My only objection is the ICE agents don't have big enough clubs and don't use them often enough on these rabble-rousing losers. Who would these jerks call if some illegal trash alien attacked or robbed them? ICE !

Dan O. Seibert's avatar

Andy, I'm writing this before I read any of the comments, because that's what I usually do before commenting.

I moved to SB from Phoenix, AZ four decades ago. Arizona has an open carry law that allows citizens to bring any type of rifle or hand gun to a political rally, as long as it's not concealed. I don't understand this post of yours. Why are you questioning someone bringing a firearm to a protest when it's been legal for years right next door to us?

LT's avatar

….and Open Carry needs to be legal here in California, to protect law abiding, legal citizens!

Dan O. Seibert's avatar

Would you just shush up, I have to concentrate to find some photos of hillbilly inbreds slinging their Constitutionally guaranteed right to open carry.

Hey LT, what's the opposite of a Libtard?

It's a Retard.