What does it say about the Secret Service that attendees of the rally spotted the shooter minutes before his attack on Trump , but the “professionals” whose job it is to keep our leaders safe sat on their hands ?
Heads should roll. People should be fired. Training should be reevaluated.
As a first cut on analysis not to bad but you have to dig down into the accoustics
and each shot to better understand what is going on. Also I want to know the equipment
that recorded the shots, ect and ect and all of that techincal "stuff" ................... but it is obvious from the audio, multiple weapons, difference sources and problems with the shooters that have to be carefully analyzed by someone that does not have an AX TO GRIND.
I suggest that we all pay attention to Chris Martenson’s analysis of how many shooters were firing at Trump. The SOUNDS of the guns recorded during the event seem to implicate more than one shooter. The difference between now and the Kennedy assassination in Dallas is the free movement of information ( thank you X and Substack and Rumble). This can limit the ability of the government and their MSM partners to bury the truth in endless committees and investigations. “Do your own research” was laughed at by those determined to get Covid vaccine in everyone’s arm. I’m sure those wishing to bury the truth regarding the attempt on Trump will scoff at information contradicting the governmental analysis.
95% of “wildfires” are started by man. Some arson, some carelessness.
Either way the fires are not a “natural disaster” if man started them.
Numerous fire access roads have been blocked and not cleared for years. Just do a mountain bike or motorcycle ride through the hills of Santa Ynez and off Gibraltar, you will see these roads are impassable by fire trucks. It’s been this way since before the Thomas Fire.
Why?
CA prevents controlled burns despite what we learned after the Thomas fire.
CA prevents safe space from power lines as if removing brush & trees is anti green.
But letting CA burn is green?
Man starts fires, man prevents access to fight the fires.
CA has the largest number of natural disasters regarding fires in the entire country.
Insurance companies are leaving CA because of high damage claims and government preventing them from raising rates.
Again , man made issues. All from the top down. Thank you Newsom for outrageous insurance premiums and wild fires.
Newsome for the regulatory mess for insurance - yes. I'm sure most on this site will roll their eyes but insurance companies believe in climate change and figure hotter drier climate will just make fires in CA and the west worse. It's the same reason European banks have quit or limited long term infrastructure loans to low elevation ski areas as europe heats up (They started this over two decades ago). Same reason insurance companies are increasing rates in areas impacted by hurricanes. They are just making prudent, educated actuarial decisions.
The others to blame are CA fire district for their failure to back burn designated areas for safety. Fire Chiefs need to take control. Attend hearings to observe for yourself how environmentalists successfully control trained, informed, highly compensated fire professionals. Millions of tax dollars are spent on elaborate fire prevention plans and hearings for controlled burns, only to see at hearings physically strong firemen controlled and manipulated by environmental destructionists: “Smoke in the air is bad.” I recall a mask mandate for 2 weeks during the Thomas Fire. Smoke so dense, we were told to evacuate and solar couldn’t recharge. Insurance companies are not in the business of fire prevention and curtailment. That’s the job of fire districts who fail the public.
Thanks, Andy. Excellent points. All I keep wishing is for the Democratic Party to stop for a moment and say “We've tried everything and we couldn't get rid of Trump. Maybe we should just chill for four years and focus on restructuring our own party.” Is that too much to ask?
As for Andy’s other comments pertaining to controlled burns and the California Costal Commission; folks the lack of forest management and load reduction policies is yet another example of the left’s radical climate policy.
This is also in line with the “Chicken Little “ mentality environmental activists have regarding Dams and water management.
Their green ideology allows putting lives and property at risk in order to justify their religious orthodoxy as in pertains to climate change. That’s right, obfuscating proven science while jumping up and down about unproven climate change theories. The amount of particulate matter, in the metric tons after a wildfire because of fuel overload, equates to millions of gas vehicles on the road…go figure!
As for the Costal Commission’s outrageous attempt to limit space exploration at VSFB is again, another attempt to control vital national security interests in the name of climate religious beliefs. So let me understand this, if God forbid, N. Korea were to launch ICBM’s at us, we would need to seek approval from the Costal Commission and their left wing nut jobs in order to retaliate? This is about as STUPID as requiring electric tanks on the battlefield in order to mitigate their carbon footprint! What could possibly go wrong!
Folks, time for a change this November. We need to get rid of the Nanny State with their endless supply of “Karen’s “ running our government!
One is reminded the response to the early spotting of the deadly Paradise CA fire was thwarted by an badly unmaintained forest access road, which local enviros had protested repairing.
What happens if 44 is actively running a SHADOW command and control [SHADOW presidency] over Our Government…what former mid-senior admin officials would need to be involved? What current mid-senior admin officials would need to be involved?
What key positions of power would be critical to the operation? Whistleblowers coming forward?
Methinks that [they] are toast…systematic destruction of the Old Guard…death of the Democrat party…get popcorn
I agree with Andy that the US and more importantly western States get their acts together on controlling wild fire fuel sources. Controlled burns have too many regulatory hoops to jump through and the public needs to understand that a small percentage of these will get out of hand but in the big picture we can manage the forests the way we have the past 100 years.
I'd like to point out one issue that I don't agree with Andy on - and that is the relative impact of these fires compared to human related GHG emissions. Of course it varies by year (huge fires/few fires) but overall most scientists estimate that wildfires emit about 5-20% of annual global CO2 emissions each year. I think that this seems so strange is why most people can't fathom that human activities release so much GHG.
And yes. Kimberly Cheatle should be fired - as she obviously won't step down.
I live on the Rancho Sisquoc side of the lake fire. It was concerning to say the least when the flames in the night sky looked uncontrollable. Being from Indiana, I really don’t understand the logic behind some of the policies in California, especially when it comes to agriculture and forestry. Those policies seem to reflect those who have never garden, raised livestock and harvested anything. Even an unskilled gardener is forced to clear the dead growth to find the dirt; the forest included. Whatever reason, ie air pollution, the total lack of concern for wildlife and the giant oaks just slays me. The amount of air pollution and carbon footprint of the machinery used in a 40,000 acre fire doesn’t in my mind offset the use of controlled burning. It’s seems that way with most policies in California. From water to electricity to roads to housing and schools, all seem to fall in the category of well I guess it has to be an emergency before any solution or changes be put into action. New construction for example, where’s the water going to come from? Have there been a solution to update the grid? I’m all for saving this earth, but hoping fires won’t happen and a we’ll figure it out as we go, makes no logical sense or any way to run a state.
City council person Megan Harmon has a lot on her plate: (1) the failure of downtown State Street, which is her district. Plus (2) her additional duties as Calif Coastal Commission member. We need to hear more from her. Particularly since she is always calling for "more affordable housing", but seems to be actively working against improving our local tax base.
Regarding Vandenburg and the Space Force Base, since Elon Musk is pulling all his companies out of California and taking them to Texas maybe they won't be using that launch site anymore, making the environmentalists who are voting to put the wind turbines in the sea happy and devastating the revival of Lompoc.
target,” (pardon the pun). And as usual, the left media cabal is trying to spin it into their own version of reality. Much is still to be learned about the how and why. Undoubtedly, this young man was a troubled loner, and doesn’t seem to have any meaningful relationship with females, girl friends etc. why is this? I have seen photos on the internet of Crooks as a cross dresser. IF this is found to be true, you can bet the left media will scatter like a bunch of cockroaches whenever the lights are turned on! Time will tell, but transparency is non-negotiable.
Clearly what must NOT happen is a cover up similar to that of the Nashville daycare shooting. Whereby the shooter’s manifesto has still not been released. Why? Because the perpetrator’s lifestyle will then come under scrutiny.
And yes, Cheatle must go now! DEI MUST NOT be allowed to overshadow critical jobs which require the most qualified, trained and physically capable applicants. This, despite any rainbow-unicorn fantasies the left may have about equity within our society.
The thought that a 20 year old loser can change world history forever in the blink of an eye is truly disturbing. Oh wait, that already happened in Dallas 60 years ago!
To Jim & James, does this site only post one thing a day? In the last five hours the entire presidential campaign has changed and there's nothing here . . . .
Hi Dan, While SB Current isn't structured as a breaking news site, I expect us to have invaluable analysis and opinion over the next few days. In the meantime, you - and others - are welcome to share your insights and opinions on such current events in the comment section. Is it a Nothing Burger (voting odds didn't change) or a whole new ball game? My hunch is the former. James
Plenty of places to discuss national news. Like the more local issues that get a place to be discussed here. As they say, all politics are local .......
I agree with Andy's contention that Kimberly Cheatle should be fired. That's kind of a no-brainer. Probably also bordering on no-brainer is that some of the Secret Service snipers should have been allowed to "take the shot" although that's a bit more difficult to call since none of us "Monday morning quarterbacks" were there.
It's conceivable there was confusion, somewhere along the chain of command, as to whether Crooks was actually yet another SS or police sniper, and they were understandably concerned about a "friendly fire" incident--which would have been tragic.
Crooks, it should be noted, researched both Trump and Biden rallies and/or conventions in the weeks leading up to the assassination attempt, so it might be reasonable to conclude he would have been content shooting either one of them. This illuminates just how troubled this 20 year-old was; it was his "shot" at fame or infamy.
"Multiple shooters"? "A Deep State Plot"? "Iranian Backed"? Spare me, you people are smarter than that.
What does it say about the Secret Service that attendees of the rally spotted the shooter minutes before his attack on Trump , but the “professionals” whose job it is to keep our leaders safe sat on their hands ?
Heads should roll. People should be fired. Training should be reevaluated.
As a first cut on analysis not to bad but you have to dig down into the accoustics
and each shot to better understand what is going on. Also I want to know the equipment
that recorded the shots, ect and ect and all of that techincal "stuff" ................... but it is obvious from the audio, multiple weapons, difference sources and problems with the shooters that have to be carefully analyzed by someone that does not have an AX TO GRIND.
H
Notice how Joe Biden’s secret service detail is all men, no women.
Just saying Mr DEI chooses to not have poorly trained women on his service detail.
24% of SS are women - most are admin. Some are rotated on active field duty - the Fed is trying to increase this number.
https://open.substack.com/pub/vigilantfox/p/the-official-story-of-a-lone-gunman?r=uicq6&utm_medium=ios
I suggest that we all pay attention to Chris Martenson’s analysis of how many shooters were firing at Trump. The SOUNDS of the guns recorded during the event seem to implicate more than one shooter. The difference between now and the Kennedy assassination in Dallas is the free movement of information ( thank you X and Substack and Rumble). This can limit the ability of the government and their MSM partners to bury the truth in endless committees and investigations. “Do your own research” was laughed at by those determined to get Covid vaccine in everyone’s arm. I’m sure those wishing to bury the truth regarding the attempt on Trump will scoff at information contradicting the governmental analysis.
The kid, who has mental illness and is being treated was communicating with sime9ne on an encrypted channel.
The kid was the Patsy.
There’s a rain why no one removed the kid from the roof
There’s a reason why the secret service was slow to react, then when they did they took the kid out immediately so he couldn’t talk.
The kids social media shows he was there to shoot a bunch of people with his AR style rifle, not an instrument of an accurate sniper.
He changed his political party to Republican to vote for Niki since Democrats couldn’t vote in the primary.
This poor kid was yet another tool of the Deep State.
The goal was to kill Trump and then have actors retaliate disguised as Trump supporters.
Stay peaceful, stay calm, just like the Trump rally attendees in PA. Do not panick. Do not take the bait to get into a fight. That’s what they want.
It's "crickets" from DHS, SS, FBI and the DOJ...and the silence is deafening.
For a thorough ongoing analysis of the event I would suggest following "Political Moonshine" substack. https://politicalmoonshine.com/2024/07/15/trump-assassination-attempt-initial-analysis-indicates-internal-security-breach-and-stand-down/
95% of “wildfires” are started by man. Some arson, some carelessness.
Either way the fires are not a “natural disaster” if man started them.
Numerous fire access roads have been blocked and not cleared for years. Just do a mountain bike or motorcycle ride through the hills of Santa Ynez and off Gibraltar, you will see these roads are impassable by fire trucks. It’s been this way since before the Thomas Fire.
Why?
CA prevents controlled burns despite what we learned after the Thomas fire.
CA prevents safe space from power lines as if removing brush & trees is anti green.
But letting CA burn is green?
Man starts fires, man prevents access to fight the fires.
CA has the largest number of natural disasters regarding fires in the entire country.
Insurance companies are leaving CA because of high damage claims and government preventing them from raising rates.
Again , man made issues. All from the top down. Thank you Newsom for outrageous insurance premiums and wild fires.
Newsome for the regulatory mess for insurance - yes. I'm sure most on this site will roll their eyes but insurance companies believe in climate change and figure hotter drier climate will just make fires in CA and the west worse. It's the same reason European banks have quit or limited long term infrastructure loans to low elevation ski areas as europe heats up (They started this over two decades ago). Same reason insurance companies are increasing rates in areas impacted by hurricanes. They are just making prudent, educated actuarial decisions.
The others to blame are CA fire district for their failure to back burn designated areas for safety. Fire Chiefs need to take control. Attend hearings to observe for yourself how environmentalists successfully control trained, informed, highly compensated fire professionals. Millions of tax dollars are spent on elaborate fire prevention plans and hearings for controlled burns, only to see at hearings physically strong firemen controlled and manipulated by environmental destructionists: “Smoke in the air is bad.” I recall a mask mandate for 2 weeks during the Thomas Fire. Smoke so dense, we were told to evacuate and solar couldn’t recharge. Insurance companies are not in the business of fire prevention and curtailment. That’s the job of fire districts who fail the public.
Thanks, Andy. Excellent points. All I keep wishing is for the Democratic Party to stop for a moment and say “We've tried everything and we couldn't get rid of Trump. Maybe we should just chill for four years and focus on restructuring our own party.” Is that too much to ask?
As for Andy’s other comments pertaining to controlled burns and the California Costal Commission; folks the lack of forest management and load reduction policies is yet another example of the left’s radical climate policy.
This is also in line with the “Chicken Little “ mentality environmental activists have regarding Dams and water management.
Their green ideology allows putting lives and property at risk in order to justify their religious orthodoxy as in pertains to climate change. That’s right, obfuscating proven science while jumping up and down about unproven climate change theories. The amount of particulate matter, in the metric tons after a wildfire because of fuel overload, equates to millions of gas vehicles on the road…go figure!
As for the Costal Commission’s outrageous attempt to limit space exploration at VSFB is again, another attempt to control vital national security interests in the name of climate religious beliefs. So let me understand this, if God forbid, N. Korea were to launch ICBM’s at us, we would need to seek approval from the Costal Commission and their left wing nut jobs in order to retaliate? This is about as STUPID as requiring electric tanks on the battlefield in order to mitigate their carbon footprint! What could possibly go wrong!
Folks, time for a change this November. We need to get rid of the Nanny State with their endless supply of “Karen’s “ running our government!
One is reminded the response to the early spotting of the deadly Paradise CA fire was thwarted by an badly unmaintained forest access road, which local enviros had protested repairing.
That would the Camp fire that devastated the town of Paradise.
More than one shooter and they all missed?
Mr Rounds it depends on WHO They all were shooting at.......
there were alleged competing targets that day.
H
Good Article…WHO is running Our Country?
Shadow President, Shadow Government…Welcome to the SHADOW Presidency of Barack H. Obama…
Why did Hussein follow POTUS Trump on foreign trips (visit same countries just prior or just after)…check the schedules…eg
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/24/trump-international-trip-barack-obama-europe-return
What happens if 44 is actively running a SHADOW command and control [SHADOW presidency] over Our Government…what former mid-senior admin officials would need to be involved? What current mid-senior admin officials would need to be involved?
What key positions of power would be critical to the operation? Whistleblowers coming forward?
Methinks that [they] are toast…systematic destruction of the Old Guard…death of the Democrat party…get popcorn
I agree with Andy that the US and more importantly western States get their acts together on controlling wild fire fuel sources. Controlled burns have too many regulatory hoops to jump through and the public needs to understand that a small percentage of these will get out of hand but in the big picture we can manage the forests the way we have the past 100 years.
I'd like to point out one issue that I don't agree with Andy on - and that is the relative impact of these fires compared to human related GHG emissions. Of course it varies by year (huge fires/few fires) but overall most scientists estimate that wildfires emit about 5-20% of annual global CO2 emissions each year. I think that this seems so strange is why most people can't fathom that human activities release so much GHG.
And yes. Kimberly Cheatle should be fired - as she obviously won't step down.
I live on the Rancho Sisquoc side of the lake fire. It was concerning to say the least when the flames in the night sky looked uncontrollable. Being from Indiana, I really don’t understand the logic behind some of the policies in California, especially when it comes to agriculture and forestry. Those policies seem to reflect those who have never garden, raised livestock and harvested anything. Even an unskilled gardener is forced to clear the dead growth to find the dirt; the forest included. Whatever reason, ie air pollution, the total lack of concern for wildlife and the giant oaks just slays me. The amount of air pollution and carbon footprint of the machinery used in a 40,000 acre fire doesn’t in my mind offset the use of controlled burning. It’s seems that way with most policies in California. From water to electricity to roads to housing and schools, all seem to fall in the category of well I guess it has to be an emergency before any solution or changes be put into action. New construction for example, where’s the water going to come from? Have there been a solution to update the grid? I’m all for saving this earth, but hoping fires won’t happen and a we’ll figure it out as we go, makes no logical sense or any way to run a state.
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- Basement Biden’s new intro to our Star Spangled Banner - “Jose Can You See”
- Winken, Blinken & Nod - (Harris, Blinken, Austin) trying to figure out which way the parade is going.
- Mayorkas telling us ‘Don’t worry, be happy! Only a small percentage of the foreign rabble flooding our country plans to kill us.’
And worst of all, another 5 months destruction by the head sniff-groper.
I shoudda listened to my mother and become a bookie! :)
Very good piece by Caldwell.
City council person Megan Harmon has a lot on her plate: (1) the failure of downtown State Street, which is her district. Plus (2) her additional duties as Calif Coastal Commission member. We need to hear more from her. Particularly since she is always calling for "more affordable housing", but seems to be actively working against improving our local tax base.
Regarding Vandenburg and the Space Force Base, since Elon Musk is pulling all his companies out of California and taking them to Texas maybe they won't be using that launch site anymore, making the environmentalists who are voting to put the wind turbines in the sea happy and devastating the revival of Lompoc.
As usual, Andy’s comments are “on
target,” (pardon the pun). And as usual, the left media cabal is trying to spin it into their own version of reality. Much is still to be learned about the how and why. Undoubtedly, this young man was a troubled loner, and doesn’t seem to have any meaningful relationship with females, girl friends etc. why is this? I have seen photos on the internet of Crooks as a cross dresser. IF this is found to be true, you can bet the left media will scatter like a bunch of cockroaches whenever the lights are turned on! Time will tell, but transparency is non-negotiable.
Clearly what must NOT happen is a cover up similar to that of the Nashville daycare shooting. Whereby the shooter’s manifesto has still not been released. Why? Because the perpetrator’s lifestyle will then come under scrutiny.
And yes, Cheatle must go now! DEI MUST NOT be allowed to overshadow critical jobs which require the most qualified, trained and physically capable applicants. This, despite any rainbow-unicorn fantasies the left may have about equity within our society.
The thought that a 20 year old loser can change world history forever in the blink of an eye is truly disturbing. Oh wait, that already happened in Dallas 60 years ago!
To Jim & James, does this site only post one thing a day? In the last five hours the entire presidential campaign has changed and there's nothing here . . . .
Hi Dan, While SB Current isn't structured as a breaking news site, I expect us to have invaluable analysis and opinion over the next few days. In the meantime, you - and others - are welcome to share your insights and opinions on such current events in the comment section. Is it a Nothing Burger (voting odds didn't change) or a whole new ball game? My hunch is the former. James
Thanks James, I'm looking forward to the posts from your viewers. I wouldn't say it's a nothing burger, as $81M has been raised in the last day.
Plenty of places to discuss national news. Like the more local issues that get a place to be discussed here. As they say, all politics are local .......
I agree with Andy's contention that Kimberly Cheatle should be fired. That's kind of a no-brainer. Probably also bordering on no-brainer is that some of the Secret Service snipers should have been allowed to "take the shot" although that's a bit more difficult to call since none of us "Monday morning quarterbacks" were there.
It's conceivable there was confusion, somewhere along the chain of command, as to whether Crooks was actually yet another SS or police sniper, and they were understandably concerned about a "friendly fire" incident--which would have been tragic.
Crooks, it should be noted, researched both Trump and Biden rallies and/or conventions in the weeks leading up to the assassination attempt, so it might be reasonable to conclude he would have been content shooting either one of them. This illuminates just how troubled this 20 year-old was; it was his "shot" at fame or infamy.
"Multiple shooters"? "A Deep State Plot"? "Iranian Backed"? Spare me, you people are smarter than that.
3 sharp shooters assigned to the Trump rally. in PA. Jill Biden's event on the same day in PA had 12. As the story continues to unfold......