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Polly Frost's avatar

When people talk about how good it is that Charlie Kirk was assassinated, they're saying that he posed a threat to their feelings of safety in their authoritarian political party. Actually, why they really are glad Kirk was assassinated is because he offered a cure for their brainwashed imprisonment in Leftist tyranny. For all Leftists' fears about being put in concentration camps by Trump, what really terrified them about Kirk was he just talked to them. And he let them talk back. Freedom of speech and actual connection to other people makes Leftists reach for their masks and long for another lockdown. These people truly do live in prisons of their own making, and they'll kill anyone who tries to help them escape.

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Jeff barton's avatar

My left wing neighbor and retired physician will not engage in discussion of the covid scandal. My first cousin will not return my calls because I voted for Trump. The left is not interested in dialogue that challenges their ideology. You will be ignored, cancelled, fired, ridiculed, defamed or even murdered for the offense of challenging the left's ideology. The same party that chants conservatives are a threat to democracy violate a cornerstone of democracy each time they seek to silence the opposition. It is ironic that the Democrat party likes to call themselves the Democratic party while their actions are antithetical to democracy. I see no sign that the left will turn down the rhetoric in the aftermath of the murder of Kirk. Perhaps the Rubicon was crossed long ago but now there should be little doubt. It is not possible to reach common ground with the left, to reach across the isle or in any way achieve any good by bipartisan efforts with pure evil. The Democrat party must be defeated into oblivion.

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Steve Cook's avatar

For the left, it’s very important to their identity to say “you’re not one of us” - exclusiveness is key to the identity, thus the constraint on free thought, and speech. Heaven forbid one learns from dialog and debate.

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Lauri Khodabandehloo's avatar

Tipping Point? What sort of “writer” can’t remember the actual title …it’s Turning Point, and Charlie Kirk will always be remembered for his truth. You, I’m not so sure.

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Jim Buckley's avatar

Ouch! I don't know if that was a really stupid mistake on my part or just another devious "dirty trick" by some evil leftist, but in any case, Turning Point it is, and you are correct. Thank you for noticing.

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Steve Cook's avatar

Ironically, and perhaps intentionally, it’s essentially a very similar concept. Tipping point being the place where there is a shift, intentional or not. Turning point, where intended or not, one makes a correction in course.

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Thomas John's avatar

I'll admit I've only knew Mr. Kirk by name and had never listened to or watched anything about him. Over the past two days I've watched a few videos, and while I don't agree with a majority of his positions, he was passionate and well spoken. Our democracy will be a weaker one without him and people like him from all viewpoints.

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Jeff barton's avatar

I agree with each and every one of Kirk's positions. He brought to college campus what they could not get in the mind rot of the classroom, honest dialogue vs Marxist indoctrination. In a way, Kirk had an easy job because his ideas make so much sense. It is easy to argue for limited government, second amendment rights, school choice, traditional values. It would be hard to argue the other side of these issues, what the left will murder to support. if you can't beat them, shoot them. I would love to hear a convincing argument against school choice, in favor of more government, in favor of socialism, in favor of men in women's sports, take your pick.

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Santa Barbara Current's avatar

To hear all of these corrupt arguments, just enroll in any state funded university. If you don’t agree, don’t worry. You’ll be given low grades and will have the pleasure of being ostracized by your peers. Charlie Kirk was hugely popular because he offfered a different product: open and free debate where people could learn.

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Thomas John's avatar

Jeff, just like your interaction with the Fire Deparment - I bet most of your fiction in life is yourself. We have a home in the reddest part of CA and everyone gets along fine as long as we don't talk politics after three beers. If I forget something, they say it's because of Biden. I tell them I'll save the bottom of the Cheetos bag for them. We're all fine. We all trade tools and wave on the street.

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Jeff barton's avatar

John Thomas the jibber speaks. My fiction is myself? Deep and meaningless. If Kirk had your power of persuasion, we would not know who he was.

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Thomas John's avatar

Deep breaths Jeff. Then go out and tell those kids to get off your lawn.

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Gary Simpson's avatar

Thank you Jim and Christine, and David for your thoughts, words and prayers. In Charlie’s words we must be more resilient now than ever before and see our Country re-bond as it had so magnificently done after the horrific events of 24 years ago yesterday.

The shooting suspect, Tyler Robinson, has been apprehended and justice will certainly be served. Now it is to us to carry Charlie’s words and beliefs forward for our country’s future.

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Lauri Khodabandehloo's avatar

Thank you…

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LT's avatar

Why was Charlie Kirk murdered? Because Charlie Kirk stood for everything the left hates. Successful, heterosexual white male, Christian, married with kids and a patriot. The perpetrator, now in custody will have time to discuss what exactly is his sick ideology. One of his shell casings was inscribed with “Hey fascist, catch!”

As I said yesterday, the left has become a satanic beast. The very fact that various social media sites has lit up with the most vile, sickening comments celebrating this horrific deed, tells us everything we need to know about a evil cabal that seeks to destroy our society that is based on Judeo Christian values.

As to the pronouns the shooter used, I’m not exactly sure, but I can guess.

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TVW's avatar
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Charlie Kirk’s murderer's headset is only marginally more radical than many on Left. Too often they cannot or will not engage in logical and/or reasoned dialogue that includes substance and verifiable facts…i.e., Covid, enforcing U.S. immigration law, so called gender identity, etc.

They frequently resort to name-calling or labeling in lieu of intelligent discourse. Worse, they “act out” as evidenced by the hundreds of riots and billions in property damage just in the past five years…without consequence. Imagine owning a Tesla with a Trump or pro-life sticker in Santa Barbara.

The role of education in the current "state of the state" ...particularly higher education...cannot be discounted.

The idiom “Agree to Disagree” has left the building.

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