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City of Truth's avatar

What a wonderful article!!! It seems Churchill is a man made by the times much like Trump- the despotic nature of our schools, the media and the entertainment industry made heroic efforts to destroy Trump and all their strenuous efforts not only failed but perhaps have forged a good man out of a very flawed man- history will tell if the evil does not triumph!

Granny Snakebite's avatar

This is a well written article. My dear brilliant friend, the late, Kinky Friedman studied Churchill for most of his adult life and had read most of Churchill’s books along with all the important biographies. I believe Kinky would deem this essay an excellent representation of the man.

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Kinky admired Winston Churchill for many of the qualities listed in the article, along with the character flaws. Kinky loved Churchill’s intellect and his way with words. Kinky had so many Churchill quotes locked and loaded for any situation. One thing that Kinky always emphasized was Churchill’s ability to be great when it mattered most. A favorite quote was: “To each there comes in their lifetime a special moment when they are figuratively tapped on the shoulder and offered the chance to do a very special thing, unique to them and fitted to their talents. What a tragedy if that moment finds them unprepared or unqualified for that which could have been their finest hour.”

Kinky would frequently compare Churchill to American Presidents. Kinky wanted America to succeed and believed in giving each President elected a chance to become the person the country needed. Kinky was especially disappointed in Obama after his first term, saying, “Leave it to America to elect a black man with no soul.”

Kinky was not only a Winston Churchill super-fan, he was also very proud of his father, Tom Friedman, especially for his service in WWII. One of my favorite essays by Kinky was about his father called “The Navigator”, first published in Kinky’s Texas Monthly column. Later Kinky included “The Navigator” in his book “Heroes of a Texas Childhood” and frequently read it at concerts, leaving most people glassy eyed, with a lump in their throat. Winston Churchill and Tom Friedman may have been blurred together in Kinky’s heart. His favorite dog, an old beagle mix who survived Kinky, is named Winston Churchill Friedman. I think Kinky fused so much pride and admiration for these two men because in Kinky’s mind, it was Winston Churchill and Tom Friedman who “saved Western Civilization”. I am including a link to “The Navigator”read by Kinky at McCabes in Santa Monica. I was sitting at the top of the stairs looking down at the stage, glassy eyed with a lump in my throat: https://youtu.be/8pwL7v9QuME?si=i7xnlrtN7RtppoaN

Polly Frost's avatar

Did Kinky like Winston's writing or what he did in office?

Granny Snakebite's avatar

I accidentally replied to your question in the wrong place. It is posted above.

Polly Frost's avatar

Beautiful. Thank you.

Lou Segal's avatar

And yet Tucker Carlson had a historian on his podcast, which he seemed to agree with, suggesting that Churchill was the villain of WW3. According to the historian, Churchill forced Hitler to go to war. If you listen to the interview, Carlson was definitely sympathetic to his views. The historian's name is Darryl Cooper. He also said the holocaust was not an intentional genocide, instead it was because Germany didn't have enough resources to care for them. Tucker is getting pretty weird nowadays.

Thomas John's avatar

Cooper is not a traditionally trained historian and has not published academic works on history. His primary platforms for sharing 'historical content' are podcasts, X and 'interviews' on shows like Tuckers. But seems like lots of folks on this forum like to hear things from the unconventional, non-traditionally trained experts.

Polly Frost's avatar

We personally knew known Daryl Cooper for some time. He's a brilliant provocateur. And someone who embodies thinking outsole the accepted lore.

Aimee Smith's avatar

Exactly, because if he were, he would be required to stick to a carefully controlled group think, even if it is wrong, that academia has been enforcing on its members for decades. Try working in microbiology and questioning vaccine safety or efficacy, for example. This is a serious problem with research across the board in our society. Universities were supposed to protect freedom to honestly pursue truth, but now they are so dominated by worldly influences that those who put truth first have a hard time remaining inside of the academy. I do understand the problem of having no formal quality control mechanism for someone like Cooper, but until we manage to root out the corruption in our academic institutions, each will have to examine the evidence and judge for themselves.

Brian MacIsaac's avatar

It seems that nobody sees for themselves anymore. They don’t have the time to study and research for themselves. They wait to be told what greatness is and who it is by a distorted and corrupt media who’s ends I cannot fathom other than it seems they want nothing But disorder and chaos. Churchill was an incredible individual and unique in history. With so much danger lurking in the world at this time, let’s hope that Trump has many of those same characteristics and put them to the good use of America as well as the rest of the world.

Aimee Smith's avatar

As the military of Israel, the Jewish state, rolls toward Damascus, an ancient city of great importance to Catholics and Christians in addition to its obvious significance to the Arab and Muslim worlds, it is timely to question whether Churchill saved Western Civilization or actually worked to complete its disintegration. Why did Churchill refuse to seek peace with Hitler yet work with the genocidal and Christian persecuting Soviet Union? People in the original America First movement tried to raise that question in the US, but they were slandered and cancelled. But the question not only deserves to be asked, we deserve an answer. Churchill used his country's power to create a Jewish state in Palestine, at the expense of the natives, fellow Christians among them. Why did Britain put Jewish interests over Christian? Why is the US continuing that pattern today?

The US was founded as a Christian country and still is majority Christian, yet US foreign policy prioritizes Jewish interests in the Middle East and Ukraine as our Christian heritage is being diminished as only the hollowed out superficial expressions of our Christian holidays are tolerated in public life. Why? It was Christian values that allowed Europe to flourish and be a light to the world. That was due to the genius of the morality taught by Jesus Christ. If you don't believe Christ was God in human form, you have to at least appreciate that He brought otherworldly genius to this world in His moral teaching. There is no better moral foundation for civilization than Christ's teachings. Western universities started in the Cathedrals. Trade, discovery and colonization was sometimes brutal and exploitative, but in many cases, it brought good, such as ending the practice of human sacrifice in the Americas. I would argue England began to lose her moral way when she succumbed to Protestantism, which enabled the development of political currents that could rationalize brutality and exploitation. My Irish Forebears came to this country as a result of the policies that these belief systems allowed.

But England took a further turn from morality when it decided to be an instrument for Jewish supremacy in the Middle East, as promised in the Balfour Declaration of 1917. Israel is now besieging and bombarding millions of Palestinians, Christians among them and the US and UK simply send arms and money for the killing and erode their own speech rights to protect this criminal enterprise from criticism. Zelenskyy is now not only a dictator in Ukraine, but the government has banned the 1000 year old Orthodox Church! Why do we arm and support such a government? How is this possible? Where in our Christian values does it say that we should help steal and commit mass murder and bear false witness against the victims of Israel? We claim our society is so good because we stood against Hitler who was a mass murderer, even as we joined forces with the mass murdering and anti-Christian Soviets, and now we help Israel commit mass murder of their declared "untermenschen" so that they might get some "lebensraum." My fellow Americans, who are we? We cheer as another failed state is created in Syria with no thought of the relics and artifacts that will be destroyed, let alone the more obvious tragedy that the social fabric of yet another country is shredded. Are we Huns? Vandals? Is this civilized? We need to make The West civilized again. I don't see how we can do it if we fail to put Christ back at the center of our hearts, our lives and our society.

Gerald Rounds's avatar

Informed by history and the Enlightenment, those who crafted the US of A wanted a secular government and recognized that a religious people was necessary for it to be successful. Tyrants may profess a belief in God but they answer only to themselves.

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Aimee Smith's avatar

*Some* of the founders were Diests, most were Christians, but our country was founded as a federal republic which included a non-establishment clause. States were founded as various Christian societies. Maryland was founded as a Catholic state, but it didn't take long for the Protestants to take it over. Our country was changed by force from a consent union to a forced one with the civil war, but it was in fact established as a Christian country, it is part of The West which traces its heritage to Christendom under the Roman Catholic Church, and even to this day despite persistent spiritual warfare by those who hate Christ and moral decency is majority Christian. Protestantism is failing due to its ties to nationalism and its propensity to split and split down to splinters, so it seems wise for us to consider returning to the faith of our forebears in order to reground ourselves in the Christian values that our civilization was built on: Roman Catholicism. There is a Church near you, and you are welcome to return. They have kept the light on, as Candace so rightly put it. It is the largest Church in the US. Why not come join us this Sunday and help us course correct the misdirection by Churchill and many many others of our civilization?

Thomas John's avatar

I agree with you. A statement saying the founding fathers fell into one group is always suspect.

Aimee Smith's avatar

There are a lot of complaints I have about Charlie Kirk's work, but he seems to be raising very valid points in this 5 min. clip: https://youtu.be/R-NiQ4YhYNk

Polly Frost's avatar

I completely disagree with Aimee about the founding of this country and how it needs to get back to Christianity. And this is an instance of what this country really was founded on, freedom of thought, speech and belief. I don't agree with Ainee but I believe in her right to believe what she does.

Aimee Smith's avatar

John Adams said at the time, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." It was understood that in order to take an oath of office or an oath to tell the truth in court, that had to mean something which is why you had to be Christian to hold office in many states at the founding of this country. The constitution was designed largely by Christians representing Christian colonies drawing from precedents in the laws of England, a 1200 year history of being a Christian Society with a state Church at the time. It was understood that there should not be a battle over which Christian sect the government should adopt, but it was understood that it was a Christian society. Mass Bay Colony started as a Puritan colony and was fairly intolerant. Pennsylvania was largely Quaker, but was tolerant of other faiths. Maryland was originally Catholic. Royal Charter colonies were under the Church of England. Eight of the colonies held royal charters at the time of the revolution.

Obviously you can disagree with me about the best way going forward. It is hard to disagree with me about the founding of this country as a Christian country, but make your case and I will consider it.

Bill Clausen's avatar

The basis of the Constitution was that it limited government, and since human nature is evil (pointed out by the Bible) the Constitution recognizes humankind's propensity to abuse power.

This is something so many today do not appear to recognize.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Ideology is not a value.

Ranger's avatar

Yes, Churchill was the man of his time for his time

George Russell's avatar

Our modern day Churchill just saved Western Civilization again, viva President Trump!

Earl Brown's avatar

Right on George. Can you imagine where we'd be if we were waiting for that knucklehead Kamala Harris to take over our beautiful America in January?

George Russell's avatar

I shudder to think, but they are waiting in the wings, we'll lose the house in midterms, maybe the Senate too, we have two years to get things done with any certainty after that it may be right back to where we started so we have to make this two years count. Sadly our biggest obstacle is our own RINO Sentors, we may need a new third party to really fix things.

Derek Hanley's avatar

Your article on Winston Churchill was accurate in describing the full man, warts and all. I was six years old when Britain declared war on Germany. I remember sitting with my parents around the radio listening to the announcement that we were at war. Soon, Churchill became the center of our universe in Britain. He convinced the Brits that we would never surrender to the Nazis. That in the end, we would win. At my tender age, I knew what was going on with the war and Winston became my hero.

But for a complete picture of the man, we have to acknowledge the one person who helped him the most in his darkest hours of stress and depression. His wife Clementine. She was an English aristocrat and philanthropist, who became renowned for her support and advising of her husband, particularly during World War ll.

In his Biography, Winston Churchill wrote of his wife. "My marriage was the most fortunate event which happened to me in the whole of my life, for what can be more glorious than to be united in one's walk-through life with a being incapable of an ignoble thought."

I believe that Winston's incredible spirit and leadership during the war years were very dependent on the love, advice and counsel from Clementine.

Bill Russell's avatar

Perhaps behind each successful politician is a "child," a necessity in order to be a creative thinker. So many factors enter the picture of a successful politician, such as the "front" they possess by their appearance, presentation, level of energy, etc. For Churchill, fortunately he was able to operate by himself and probably not taking much direction. In engineering, dealing with the creative types is a challenge, requiring the art of transitioning the "child" to an "adult" state. The ability to manage "children" can be done by someone that's naturally good at doing this or one that follows the PAC rules or applying the Parent-Adult-Child rules. The object is attempting to have an adult-to-adult relationships, if possible. It's fun to witness and I've caught myself in the past being a "child." It just comes with the territory. Churchill had all the factors for what England needed at the time, a rare combination of ingredients.

Pat Fish's avatar

"We are all worms, but I do believe that I am a glow-worm." - Winston Churchill

Michael Callahan's avatar

A really nice piece on Winston Churchill, a great man. Just can’t understand why there’s a picture of Donald Trump next to him. Is it for contrast?

Julia Gonzales's avatar

Mr. Callahan,

I needed a good laugh, and you gave me one. Thank you.

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Michael Callahan's avatar

Doppelganger?? Let’s compare the two: WC, drinker and smoker. DT, teetotaler. WC, liked fine food. DT, McDonalds. WC, war hero. DT, draft dodger who made fun of war heroes. WC, brilliant writer of 40 books. DT, Non-reader with one ghost-written book. WC, early foe of Hitler. DT, early pal of Putin. WC, shot at by enemy soldiers. DT, shot at by a one of his fellow citizens. WC, considered by scholars one of the greatest statesmen of the 20th century. DT, considered by historians worst president in American history. In all fairness though there was a similarity; both were overweight.

Earl Brown's avatar

“DT, considered by historians worst president in American history” What ‘historians’. . . a bunch of ivory-tower eggheads?

Except for Geo Washington Trump's the best president we’ve ever had. Here are some of his first accomplishments - tinyurl.com/4f5dz3bf His second act will be even better!

Thomas John's avatar

You don't like 'ivory tower eggheads,' but your list of Trumps accomplishments is from Trump himself?

Earl Brown's avatar

That's actually - 'Trump's' accomplishments.

To answer your comment, this comprehensive compendium was done by 'hired hands.'

Thomas John's avatar

Yeah, so very objective. And thanks for the grammar edits.

Michael Callahan's avatar

Check it out: Known as the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey, the study was conducted by a group of leading experts specializing in the American presidency — including the current and recent members of the Presidents and Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association.

Cate's avatar

Michael Callahan got two assessments correct on Trump. 1) he is a teetotaler and 2) overweight. The rest is judgmental and grossly incorrect. Trump haters let media define Trump for them and were content with that image. The majority of voters did not.

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Thomas John's avatar

I think "expansive oratory" is now known as the "the weave".

Jerome V's avatar

Well written article, but appears to be based solely upon the official misrepresentation of history that was sold to us. "Good Citizen" offered this alternative take on Sunday:

"Churchill was controlled by the Rothschild family and its Zionist proxies. A man called Ben Cohen and a group called The Focus were behind his horrific decisions around wartime policies, including the destruction of German cities and massacre of hundreds of thousands of German civilians, refusal to make peace, and dragging the United States into the sanguinary conflict costing tens of millions of lives after 1940. Nobody is more responsible for the destruction of Western Europe and bankrupting the British empire than this fat blabbering alcoholic gambling addict who lived lavishly in a manor house with five servants on an MP’s pittance salary and had his debts serviced by his Rothschild masters. This guy was the farthest thing from a hero any nation or people could want. (More on him in another collaboration with Notes From The Past Substack coming soon.)"

source: https://thegoodcitizen.live/p/drowning-false-heroes

Most Americans have yet to learn of the unprovoked firebombing of German cities that Churchill presided over, nor his role in enabling the systematic rape and murder of millions of German Christians by the Soviets after the war. I did not know until fairly recently.

We've been lied to a lot, folks!

Hardly any Americans have yet learned of the Churchill/British role in bringing Hitler to power: https://www.amazon.com/Conjuring-Hitler-Britain-America-Third/dp/074532181X

The good thing is once we notice we've been systematically lied to by people who wish us harm, we can be on guard, no?

Gretchen Murray's avatar

Thank you for a timely reminder about a great man. He gave his all for mankind, not just Great Britain.

Julia Gonzales's avatar

Mr. McCalmont,

I was hoping this was a tribute, straightforward, to Churchill. I should’ve known better, it’s just another comparison of trump to actual great men. He has been compared to Washington and Lincoln, and sometimes sacrilegiously, even Jesus.

I am wondering, why the magas, in their artwork, always portray trump 50 pounds lighter in 20 years younger. We know what he looks like, we hear the disturbing things he says and does. Someone commented that the media is to blame for what we think of trump. No, we can see. We can hear, we can read, and we think for ourselves.