At the core of all of this is the idea that somehow one group of people (Hispanics--mainly Mexicans) were created to work at low wages and in unsafe conditions to prop up the economy of another. (The United States) That theory, whether promoted by well-meaning liberals, or cold-blooded business interests, is both racist, and undermines the purpose of the labor movement which worked so hard and bravely to improve workers' conditions in the United States in the first half of the 20th century. We of course, see the parallel in Europe where largely out of a sense of guilt, exploited by business interests, the same Ponzi Scheme is being run over there with the encouragement of mass migration from the Middle East and North Africa, but over there, there is the added factor of the fundamentalist aspect of Islamic ideology.
When the least educated segment of a country is encouraged to mass migrate to another country, and is encouraged to not learn the language of the land to which they have migrated, and in tandem, the public schools lower the expectations of their American-raised (raised by the schools as the parents are toiling at their low-wage jobs) children, and of course migrate in unlimited numbers as any rule of law regarding immigration is removed, further incentivized by free "education" (indoctrination) and government services--always provided in the native language of the migrants, the combination of overcrowding, low education levels, and seditious ideology afoot even in secondary "education" is going to result in the inevitability of poverty and crime, with it's forerunner of the cautionary euphemism "at-risk youth".
I got my first taste of this when I entered Santa Barbara High School in 1976 and became familiar with the on-campus group MEChA (sic), which is an acronym for Movemiento Estudiental Chicano de Aztlan. I noticed how angry these kids looked, as their enabling teachers and administrators looked upon the situation with apparent approval without dissent. The other thing was, any Mexican or Black student that focused on honing their academic skills for life were often ostracized as "acting white". The two-tiered system of expectations along racial lines was clear.
One more thing: as long as the U.S. keeps enabling this scheme, the corrupt governments of the regimes to the south of us have no incentive to ever improve the lot of their people, so the billionaires who run those countries simply know they can dump their poor, unwanted, and often poorly-educated masses on the U.S., where they become political footballs kicked around by both sides of the political aisle here, where we see what was once open space getting developed in order to accommodate this mass migration of people, with the resultant crime, and on and on it goes.
Wouldn't it be more humane that these countries to the south of us should fix their dystopian economies? Side note: where is the proof that these businesses which hire these people who supposedly "do the work Americans won't do" (translation: work at depressed wages where the employers circumvent the labor laws) are actually passing the saving onto us?
Remember that the employers need to be held to account financially and criminally for breaking federal laws and hiring laws. And, recognize that Carbajal benefits financially from this arrangement, the least of which is donations for his and others campaigns. And also ask yourselves, who facilitated these people coming into the US in the first place, how did they benefit financially, and what else did they bring with them when they came?
Our public school systems are 100% exempt from making any citizenship or legal status enquires. Thus California K-12 and their powerful teachers unions should not be left out of the equation when asking this important question: who really benefits from open borders, and how.
Teachers barely make enough money to live on and must buy their own work materials. I don't think they are making any money off having more students in their classrooms, especially if they speak different languages. You can do better than this. Dig deep. There are valid reasons to oppose illegal immigration, this is not one. LEGAL immigration would benefit us all, but our government has not done its job in making valid networks of laws and permissions for work. For years, our crops were labored by immigrants who did not need legal permission to be here, decades later, they do. How it that their fault?
Wrong. Medium salary for SB teachers is $110,000...plus benefits...and get an enormous of time off...paid. Not big money...but not bad and total job security.
Good to know. I do know teachers outside of major "esteemed" addresses do not make much over 60-80k. The union member I'm familiar with, in running to keep her position, presented her campaign promise if she can retain her status then she can still enjoy the many opportunities for paid leave for such educational visits to Las Vegas, Palm Springs, and named others. She shared if these teachers didn't vote her back in, she would no longer get the perks of free fun places like Las Vegas. She really loved going to Las Vegas. She openly admitted her only interest was for her to continue in free trips. No mention of how the teachers were loosing out on salary increases or their safety rights due to dangerous students. And many more!
Some of my White Midwestern relatives! Central Valley before it became the bread basket of the world! The Dust Bowl refugees and Arkies and Oakies. They lived in metal quanset housing outside of Bakersfield. No AC! No grocery store. No TV, it was the 20s! And many Blacks from the South also migrated and started farms. The women working beside the men! Others in their youth in the mid 40s worked in canning houses pitting peaches for .25 an hour. I do not want to work the fields, but my grandmother hauled a cotton sack at 3yo in west Texas as a share cropper tenant helping her family, 1903! Please to those who DO NOT KNOW, stop erroring on the side of ignorance. Not all of us were born with a silver spoon!!
My point exactly, but the defenders of the "they do the work Americans won't do" argument don't mention this, either by intent, or because they don't know history.
CH: There is a fundamental error in your conclusion about immigration policy reform being a GOP failure. If you recall the 2024 GOP platform included **continuing** with the immigration reform policies put in place under President Ronald Reagan, which included both limited amnesty considerations and a secure border. This was a two-part immigration reform promise.
Trump vowed he would complete the secure border part of promise that was never put in place but remains a critical part of that original GOP led immigration reform agreement, even though a degree of amnesty was granted at that time under Reagan. Never forget it was the Democrats who sabotaged Trump's 2016 Wall building efforts, which was one crucial part of that GOP original promise. Once burned, twice shy.
Ensuring Trump's currently more secure border is not something that is accomplished in just a few months, but needs to be validated after several years of new policies put into practice. Only then can we move on to fully reviewing other immigration reform measures, under these new MAGA principles.
Chris Hall: Be sure to distinguish between the value of open borders to teachers unions; versus the impact of open borders on the actual classroom teacher. They are often in direct opposition to each other, but the teachers are the ones who certify their choice of the teacher union to represent them.
The public is often confused about the difference two when the teachers unions engage in massive political/partisan PR campaigns. The unions then become the public face for teachers, who indeed are struggling on their own inside individual classroom providing this essential public service. Rarely do individual teachers engage in any level political influence peddling, without teacher union encouragement and/or guidance through their teacher union political action committees.
You best talk to your unions, if you feel there is insufficient trickle down to the classroom teacher from the California Prop 98 mandatory public education funding - 50% of all general fund revenues dedicated automatically to K-14.
Your own choice of your teacher union representative, who is chosen by the teachers themselves, is who allocates this large amount of public funding for schools in this state, along with often supporting more pro- teacher union backed candidates for school boards who become the voices and faces of this unholy alliance spending these education funds. .
Taxpayers are not the one's you need to convince of your stated stated woes, because they have already handed you the generous Prop 98 schools funding amounts every year, along with multiple parcel taxes and school bond issues on top of that Prop 98 general fund allocation.
The public has already dedicated generous support for public education. Not getting a sound public education system in return for this long history of very generous public support has been a profound betrayal. This is the issue you must take up with your teacher unions - because they are the unelected third party alien force in this whole equation
You need to discuss your complaints with your own teachers unions, who direct where school funding actually ends up after their engagement in your contract negotiations.
Do you allocate less of that total K-12 funding amount for health care benefits, compensation packages, automatic COLA, longevity increments, professional advancement premiums, or pension contributions, and instead instead carve out more money for home financing? This is all between you and your unions; and not the taxpayers.
California's school funding system is uniquely tied to student attendance, using a metric called Average Daily Attendance (ADA), according to the California Department of Education. This means schools receive funding primarily based on the average number of students attending school each day, rather than simply the total number of students enrolled. The more students attending class, the more funding the school receives.
Sooo....we will not have fruits or vegetables absent illegal aliens? Really. Or do you mean if higher wages were paid to legal workers it would be an inconvenience? Note that nations such as Australia and New Zealand are more advance/mechanized in harvesting because they do not have common borders with third world countries. We should too.
You make my previous point that illegal immigration advocates first site cheap labor, menial jobs etc. Thank you.
Yes! A little hard work builds character and the APPRECIATION for understand the value in life. Ask any self start-up vintner. They do the clearing, planting, building their business from the ground up! NO painted manicured hands. 20 years later, they may begin to benefit from the FRUIT of their labor. Life is not a cake walk! For most of us.
CH: More US farm land is lost every year already in the US- food imports are already a reality. Automation is also supplanting much of the ag labor requirements every year.
So are you using that vague extortion argument - keep bringing in illegals so people can continue to exploit them for cheaper food/goods/ services? That is what I am hearing. This is why ignoring illegal border crossings is not a healthy direction for anyone to be encouraging. Reality adjustment time.
You nailed it Bill! Now please email above to the misguided reps who will deliver our tax dollars to NGOs . Meeting starts at 11:30 TODAY, City Hall, DeLaGuerra Plaza
It is time to ask our Mayor to reduce the tone of hostility and outright hysteria now encountered in these attempts to conduct full public discussions. They have become one-sided verbal thuggings and not an environment where honest and open community discussions can and should take place. Yes brand new Councilwoman Wendy Santamaria, I am mainly talking about you.
Come to listen, not make high drama, unilateral demands. Last I knew, both the city administrator and the city police chief are not elected policy makers either and need to demonstrate a lot more even-handed temperance in their public input as well.
Threats of violence in order to obtain a material benefit is extortion. If more than one jointly makes this same threat, it is a conspiracy to commit extortion.
We've certainly have seen 1,000s on that payroll agenda since 2020! Liars, cheaters, and thieves. Shame on the Woke Santa Barbara faux leaders who self righteously appoint themselves the authority over others. They are not the authority. They are to represent ALL the people. Not lie in wait to take out those who find out their corruption. Evil walks among us.....
Let them. Sounds like what they did to businesses during BLM. They made them post on their windows if they supported them and wasn't there a tax or something on our food Bill for BLM at that time.
More often than not the knee jerk comment I hear from supporters of illegal immigration is centric to maintaining low wages, cheap labor, servile labor etc. "Who is gonna (fill in the blank)"?? It's elitist, arrogant, condescending, shameful and broadly "racist".
As $46 billion US dollars goes out the back door to Mexico every year as remittences from Mexican nationals, and does not recirculate in the US economy. As Ricky would always tell Lucy,...... you have some "splaining" to do.
That is your interpretation. It is solid fact. The people who we need to do this work are exactly the people ICE targets. Where is there any room for a question on that?
CH: Huh? We had a sound seasonal and legal bracero work permit program in the past .I don't know of anyone who is against reinstitution this controlled and regulated labor exchange, if there is both legal and mutual benefit. But you seem to be arguing for something else. With vague threats of extortion, as your only fall-back position. That honestly sounds very creepy.
It is outrageous that our elected officials are blatantly ignoring the laws of this country they swore to uphold. I really cannot fully comprehend their mindsets. And yes, we must get rid of them and replace them with those who take our Constitution seriously!
It’s up to you! Time is of the essence. TODAY MATTERS! 11:30 SB City Council Chambers.
SEND IN NOW your emails clerk@SantaBarbaraCA.gov and to the 4 reps who will vote to unlawfully fund NGOs to aid undocumenteds with judicially issued deportation orders. They will avoid legal action as government funders of “humanitarian aid”.
DHS, Noem, Homan don’t agree: Do you? Now is the time. Don’t wait. ACT!
Starting with our President, who says one thing and does another, telling his fans whatever they want to hear, which enables him to continue breaking the law by firing people who are actually protected by laws, while refusing to spend money that the second co-equal branch of our federal government has allocated. Breaking contracts and withholding payments to people and companies who have in good faith already SPENT that money. This is equivalent to lying and demonstrates bad faith, which is evident to other nations. Whenever we attempt to enter into a contract in the future, they will take this into consideration, knowing that we, as a nation, might not uphold our promises. Our children are being taught that it is okay to lie, as long as you don't get caught.
This is really about the Democratic Party trying to win back the Hispanic vote before the next election. And, of course they're doing it the way they've done everything since 2016 - by telling Hispanics and gullible white liberals that ICE is not acting for the good of everyone, including Hispanic immigrants, but acting in a white supremacist, racist way because, of course, Trump is Hitler. They refuse to discuss facts and instead are working to divide Santa Barbara and cause violence that they can then blame on law enforcement and work to defund. It's pure and simple Leftist tactics and anyone who falls for it should be sent into a facility where they have to wear a mask and live in isolation for a year - so they understand that this is the exact same tactic that the Left used during Covid to seize control. It has nothing to do with sensible immigration or protecting immigrant children and everything to do with the Democratic Party's lust for tyranny.
"They refuse to discuss facts and instead are working to divide Santa Barbara" - Santa Barbara has been divided - no idea where you have been. It's just become more visible since Trump.
The facts are that Trump has broken laws with his executive orders many times. It is illegal for him to disband agencies and fire employees; these laws are supposed to keep a greedy ruler in check, but we just never had one before! It is illegal for him to accept gifts, so he calls them something else - that is called lying, children. People are being disappeared, Polly. Now that the lights are shining on the practice, detainees get to make phone calls. These detainees are held with barely a place to go to the bathroom, they stay in their dirty clothes for a week, sleep on the floor, etc.
I fully expect he will say he will comply with the courts, all while he does not. Now he has the Supreme Court issuing fast-food-style rulings. No deliberation, and no reasons to back their decisions.. This has never been done before - he is breaking every egg in the carton, and someone will need to clean up this mess when Americans wake up and see what he has up his sleeve. I understand WHY you want to believe what he says.
In regard to Federal Immigration Laws against harboring, hiding, assisting criminal illegal aliens evade capture and arrest by the federal government agents like ICE; What are the possible federal law legal consequences? What about consequences for cities and county governments that fund NGOs to harbor, hide or otherwise help illegals evade arrest by federal agents.. what is their possible liability?
Federal Immigration Laws on Harboring Illegal Aliens
Under U.S. federal law, specifically 8 U.S.C. § 1324, it is a crime to knowingly or recklessly harbor, conceal, or assist undocumented immigrants in evading detection, apprehension, or arrest by federal authorities, such as Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). This includes actions like providing shelter, transportation, or other forms of aid with the intent to shield undocumented immigrants from immigration enforcement.
Legal Consequences for Individuals or Organizations
The penalties for violating 8 U.S.C. § 1324 depend on the nature and severity of the offense:
* Basic Harboring Offense:
* Imprisonment: Up to 5 years per violation.
* Fines: Significant monetary fines, potentially up to $250,000 for individuals or $500,000 for organizations under 18 U.S.C. § 3571.
* Civil Penalties: Injunctions or restraining orders to cease activities.
* Aggravated Circumstances:
* If the offense results in serious bodily injury to any person, imprisonment can increase to up to 20 years.
* If the offense results in death, the penalty can escalate to life imprisonment or, in extreme cases, the death penalty.
* If the offense was committed for financial gain, additional fines and penalties may apply.
* Conspiracy or Aiding and Abetting:
* Individuals or entities conspiring to harbor or assist undocumented immigrants can face the same penalties as those directly committing the act.
* Forfeiture:
* Assets used in or derived from harboring activities (e.g., property, vehicles) may be subject to civil or criminal forfeiture.
Liability for Cities and County Governments Funding NGOs
Cities or counties that fund non-governmental organizations (NGOs) engaged in harboring or assisting undocumented immigrants to evade federal authorities could face significant legal and financial consequences, though direct prosecution of local governments is rare and complex due to jurisdictional and immunity issues. Potential liabilities include:
* Federal Criminal Liability:
* If a city or county knowingly funds NGOs with the specific intent to facilitate violations of 8 U.S.C. § 1324, officials or entities involved could be prosecuted for conspiracy or aiding and abetting. Penalties would mirror those for individuals or organizations (fines, imprisonment for officials).
* Proving intent is challenging, as governments may claim funds were allocated for humanitarian purposes (e.g., food, shelter) rather than to evade ICE.
* Civil Liability:
* The federal government could pursue injunctions or lawsuits against cities or counties to halt funding of NGOs engaged in illegal activities.
* Loss of Federal Funding: Under 8 U.S.C. § 1373 and related executive orders, cities or counties deemed to be obstructing federal immigration enforcement (e.g., "sanctuary cities") may risk losing certain federal grants, such as those from the Department of Justice or Department of Homeland Security. Courts have upheld this in cases like United States v. California (2018).
* State-Level Consequences:
* In states with anti-sanctuary laws (e.g., Texas’ SB 4), local governments funding NGOs that assist undocumented immigrants in evading ICE could face state-imposed penalties, including:
* Fines: Up to $25,500 per day for violations in Texas.
* Civil Penalties: Lawsuits by state authorities.
* Removal of Officials: In some cases, elected officials could face removal for non-compliance.
* Practical Challenges:
* Prosecuting local governments or NGOs often requires clear evidence of intent to violate federal law, which can be difficult to establish if NGOs claim they are providing legal humanitarian aid.
* Sovereign immunity may protect cities or counties from certain lawsuits, but individual officials could still face personal liability if acting outside their authority.
Key Considerations
* Sanctuary Policies: Cities with "sanctuary" policies limiting cooperation with ICE (e.g., refusing detainer requests) are generally not considered to be harboring under 8 U.S.C. § 1324, as non-cooperation alone does not equate to active concealment. However, funding NGOs that directly harbor or transport undocumented immigrants to evade arrest could cross the legal threshold.
* Case Law: In United States v. Aguilar (1988), the Supreme Court clarified that harboring includes actions that substantially facilitate an undocumented immigrant’s ability to remain in the U.S. illegally. Courts have applied this broadly to include NGOs or individuals providing direct aid with intent to evade enforcement.
* Recent Trends: The Department of Justice has pursued actions against sanctuary jurisdictions (e.g., lawsuits against California and Seattle), but direct criminal prosecutions of local governments are rare. Instead, the federal government often uses funding restrictions or civil litigation.
Conclusion
Individuals or NGOs violating federal harboring laws face serious criminal and civil penalties, including imprisonment, fines, and asset forfeiture. Cities or counties funding such activities could face federal lawsuits, loss of funding, or state penalties, particularly in anti-sanctuary states. However, proving intent and overcoming immunity defenses complicates direct liability for local governments.
The individuals in city and county government that aid in the illegal intervention of our federal laws should be held to account by federal authorities, as should the funding of the cities and the counties.
Santa Barbara residents voted to raise taxes to support safety measures not to harbor illegals invading our communities. It appears our elected officials in Santa Barbara county don’t agree and are using our money to thwart Federal law in support of criminal aliens.
Yes Michael, that’s exactly what is happening and just like the $100k referendum passed by the Goleta City Council. Sure hope folks remember this outrageous use of tax dollars at the ballot box!
Just yesterday,Denice Spangler- Adams posted an article about this same issue. It seems as if it has gained attention from the California Globe.
I fully support Bill Brown also. He has been the voice of reason and support during the Thomas Fire and subsequent Floods,BLM riots,COVID overreach,Campus protests and protecting and serving everyday.
These politicians are trying to coerce and bully him to denounce the ICE Raids.
A sheriff cannot be fired,and they know that, and a sheriff's job is to follow the Constitution ,as he is doing. These other leaders are not.
I've come to realize,after watching one City meeting l,that the folks on the City Council are not qualified to run our Cities.
Tell me why no one is supporting the children that were rescued? Why won't they even discuss this and cry with outrage over the issue that they were trafficked and or sexually abused,investigation still ongoing.
With the previous administration,there was full support of this behavior from elected officials but not this one and they won't win any of the other lawsuits they signed their names to wasting taxpayer money.
Sanctuary laws need to end in order for agents to go to jail and not in the streets where the criminals are living once released from jail.
It may come down to Marshall law in order to deal with the illegal activity of Sanctuary Cities and their leaders.
……“Salud Carbajal and his cronies are asking our Elected Sheriff Bill Brown to oppose the Federal government mandate and to not support the removal of 13 felons from our community, not to support the rescue of 14 minors, 10 that were unaccompanied by parents, and one that was identified as part of human trafficking.
Mr. Carbajal wants people to believe it is because LATINO moms and pops are being taken. Predominantly serious lawbreakers and people here illegally are the focus of Immigration and Customs Enforcement and those being taken and investigated are getting their due process. Salud would want you to think otherwise, but that is false.
We must respect the law and the Federal Government rule. If there is a discussion to be had or changes made with regard to negative effects of Immigration Enforcement policies, then we need to find the proper channels to have those conversations to change it.
We support the Federal Government and Sheriff Bill Brown in the difficult job of handling these matters professionally with Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers.”
Just as in the old Sergio Leone, Spaghetti Westerns, we find ourselves in a “Mexican Standoff” between our virtuous “justice warriors” and “El Migra.” Yes, all this excitement comes while local lefty’s are preoccupied with Old Spanish Days, wearing their Mexican Sombreros and dancing the Mexican Hat Dance just as this “campaign of terror” is going on with masked ICE Agents. It’s almost comical how there was an outbreak of public phony outrage which threatened our annual celebration! But no, the powers that be declared too much dinero would be lost for all the virtue signaling NGO’s if Fiesta was cancelled. So here we are…Viva La Fiesta!
As for Sheriff “Deputy Dawg” Brown, he finds himself in a pickle! On one hand he has to toe the lefty line and act as though he’s on board with their charade, on the other hand, he runs the risk of being Federally charged with obstruction of Federal Law Enforcement. At the end of the day, Brown will do the right thing…which is to protect his pension!
As for the owners of the Glass Factory, how is it their not in jail?
How can the owners employ known criminals and allow them in our community?
As for our elected Congressman, Salud Carbajal, what a clown and embarrassment. This, while gaining national media coverage and proving to the entire world how dysfunctional we are as a community. The very idea is outrageous that Carbajal would dox Federal Agents and then try to force his way into an active criminal investigation, all while having a meltdown over removal of known, dangerous desperados.
Excellent point LT, on why the owners of the Glass House (not Factory - where I'm betting we both used to shoot) are not in jail or at least in some sort of trouble. I've always felt that if we're stepping up enforcement on those here illegally, we should have an equally appropriate enforcement of those hiring them. I'm sure the hotel owners and farmers don't want that though.......
The Glass House owners are in trouble, TJohn, with pending litigation which prompted the raid on these two specific business locations: Camarillo and Carpinteria.
The INVESTIGATIVE DIVISION of ICE had the judicially issued warrants.
The ICE Enforcement Division handles typical arrests for those with Court ordered Deportation Orders.
I encourage interested persons to read up on DHS, Immigration Enforcement, and the various divisions of ICE.
Ya TJ, I’ve blown up a few things at the Glass Factory on E. Camino Cielo over the years. Sure was fun, letting loose with full metal jackets. The problem was inevitably a few undesirables would show up that lacked any sense of gun safety. Stupid shit, pointing the barrel at each other, walking around with fingers on the trigger. Typical gang banger moves.
Now days I go enjoy my 2nd Amendment rights at WCGC, been a member for years. We need to watch the lefty wackos and make sure they leave our range alone, as there had been talk of closing.
Not about race. Of course the leftists wil always try and frame it as such. Its all they ever do. At its core, It’s about a bunch of rich white liberals who want to maintain a slave labor force to maintain their lifestyle and representation in Congress, just like they did over 170 years ago. It’s obvious.
My "summer read" at the moment is John Grisham's "Camino Ghosts". He references as a precursor to his tale the African Slave Trade as it existed in 1760. Everyone above the age of 13 were rousted from their sleep in deep dark villages by corps of African hooligans and dragged several hundred miles to the Atlantic coast, where the isolated villagers for the first time saw the ocean and their first glimpse of anybody who wasn't black. The African hooligans were paid for their efforts as the unwilling slaves were herded onto cargo ships for the dangerous and unpredictable trip to Savannah, GA. The point I'm attempting to make from this story is that it could very possibly be the descendants of today's Rich White Liberals who were the decadent scoundrels behind the pre-Independence British colonial efforts to introduce "cheap labor" into the Southern plantation economy. The modern Democrat Party didn't come into being until Andrew Jackson ran for president almost 70 years after the telling of Grisham's tale of misery. But let it be said that "race" has always been at the core of Democrat Party political strategy and social ideology - from the days of the Slave Trade down through the Woke policies of Identity Politics.
Democrat party grew out of principled Jeffersonian/Republican party but yes, agreed.
I just call em as I see em
Same group, same need for cheap slave labor, same tactics and politics…if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…it’s a duck. 🤷♂️
I grew up in the South, I know what this is, not fooled.
Yes, mostly, except for the big gentrified urban centers like New Orleans, Atlanta, Austin, etc.
Not sure why that is at all relevant to this 🤷♂️
The South is no longer the biggest importer and user of slave labor…but it used to be. If you grow up there, you would be steeped in the history and could recognize the same attitude towards slave labor and racism.
It would be like defending slavery today by opposing deportation and claiming those who advocate for deportation are racist and don’t want black people around. It’s an age old canard
The only question I have now is how long until the Democrats try to compromise by counting their illegal alien slave labor force as 3/5ths of a “person” for power and representation in Congress.
At the core of all of this is the idea that somehow one group of people (Hispanics--mainly Mexicans) were created to work at low wages and in unsafe conditions to prop up the economy of another. (The United States) That theory, whether promoted by well-meaning liberals, or cold-blooded business interests, is both racist, and undermines the purpose of the labor movement which worked so hard and bravely to improve workers' conditions in the United States in the first half of the 20th century. We of course, see the parallel in Europe where largely out of a sense of guilt, exploited by business interests, the same Ponzi Scheme is being run over there with the encouragement of mass migration from the Middle East and North Africa.
When the least educated segment of a country is encouraged to mass migrate to another country, and is encouraged to not learn the language of the land to which they have migrated, and in tandem, the public schools lower the expectations of their American-raised (raised by the schools as the parents are toiling at their low-wage jobs) children, and of course migrate in unlimited numbers as any rule of law regarding immigration is removed, further incentivized by free "education" (indoctrination) and government services--often provided in the native language of the migrants, the combination of overcrowding, low education levels, and seditious ideology afoot even in secondary "education" is going to result in the inevitability of poverty and crime, with it's forerunner of the cautionary euphemism "at-risk youth".
One more thing: as long as the U.S. keeps enabling this scheme, the corrupt governments of the regimes to the south of us have no incentive to ever improve the lot of their people, so the billionaires who run those countries simply know they can dump their poor, unwanted, and often poorly-educated masses on the U.S., where they become political footballs kicked around by both sides of the political aisle here, where we see what was once open space getting developed in order to accommodate this mass migration of people, with the resultant crime, and on and on it goes. The rich get richer, the increasingly-poorer are pawns used among racial lines as the overlords laugh their way to the bank.
Wouldn't it be more humane that these countries to the south of us should fix their dystopian economies? Side note: where is the proof that these businesses which hire these people who supposedly "do the work Americans won't do" (translation: work at depressed wages where the employers circumvent the labor laws) are actually passing the saving onto us? Note: I posted this on the SB Current site and was requested to forward this to you, perhaps those requesting I do this do not know I do not live in Santa Barbara. Nonetheless, my letter is intended for all audiences.
EMAIL NOW: "As a tax paying citizen and business and property owner, I instruct you NOT to fund the NGOs facilitating the illegal aliens in our community.
They need to be deported.
And businesses employing them must face the penalties of the law for doing so.
Please ensure this message is entered into the public record before the vote.
If anyone would like to sign this letter that we submitted to Pam Bondi at the Department of Justice yesterday, you can access the document here and comment with your Name, Title, and Email and I will add to the list. Or my number is listed and you can text me.
Thank you for assembling this. We all have to stick together and push back. Id like an App to be able to report all the lies and illegal activity by our City and State leaders.
The left will believe anything the left leaning news tells you. I can tell you all that they've said this last 6 months have been lies. If you don't know your being set up with the Epstein Files to be released and you want it sooooo bad to bring down DJT,like they wouldn't have tried that already so they have to assassinate him.
Anyway I wouldn't ask and hope for something you don't want to see because what will really be on the list is your favorite Democratic politicians,movie stars,sports stars etc ..
Take a peak at the Flight logs that'll give you a clue. Like Bill C visited the Island 28 times a man who raped many women and Monica L scandal.
Really L. Angel? More than Bondi work at DOJ. In 2024, the DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY employed 54,994 persons. (Average annual salary was $112,063 and median salary was $107,590). Yes, DOJ, DHS, ICE are overwhelmed with priority work juggling many balls concurrently.
Keep high expectations for continued transparency and results.
I applaud this article and effort. I also applaud the responses by Bill Clausen and Thomas Cole below.
I agree that the employers have some culpability in all of this. I personally officially toured several cannabis facilities with an eye to the costs/taxation policies of the Santa Barbara County budget for monitoring this industry. One thing that struck me, which was not a part of our investigation, was the fact that 99% of employees appeared to be of Hispanic descent; the only Caucasians were in the offices, and their number was a handful at each facility.
If this industry pays so well, why, in fact, is there such a lack of a more mixed workforce? Is language one of the key denominator? Note: I did not observe any children working.
Law enforcement, both locally and nationally, has a job to do. We have immigration laws and practices on the books that would work if we didn't have members of Congress, County Supervisors, City officials and NGO's interfering and obstructing the process.
We are a nation, state, county and cities of laws. Without these laws we have anarchy and are susceptible to more illegal immigration, which appears to have been nipped in the bud.
No, this reaction (by most responders to this article) is not based on some fanatical political philosophy; it is based on reason and rationality.
What does a national opinion poll indicate about current federal deportation efforts and the last six months of noisy organized protest against these federal deportation efforts?
From Townhall:
...."So after months of nonstop demagoguery and agitation against Trump and ICE -- while amplifying every deportation "outrage" or sob story (totally regardless of veracity) -- and with doxxing and attacks against federal agents skyrocketing, top-line public opinion on deportations hasn't budged. At all.
Nearly six-in-ten say the US should boot out criminal aliens, with another three-in-ten saying this should apply to all illegal immigrants (other differently-worded polls show majority support for such across-the-board deportations).
In total, approximately 90 percent support of the public supports mass deportations, with only about one-in-ten embracing what has effectively become the Democrats' extreme, anti-deportation stance.
Among Hispanics, 60 percent favor mass deportations of criminal aliens. Less than a quarter of Latinos share Democrats' position. A majority of these voters (54 percent) support Trump's border enforcement.".....
OK, I sent the letter to Harmon, Gutierrez, SantaMaria, and Sneddon, as well as Holly Perea. I edited it as follows "At the core of all of this is the idea that somehow one group of people (Hispanics--mainly Mexicans) were created to work at low wages and in unsafe conditions to prop up the economy of another. (The United States) That theory, whether promoted by well-meaning liberals, or cold-blooded business interests, is both racist, and undermines the purpose of the labor movement which worked so hard and bravely to improve workers' conditions in the United States in the first half of the 20th century. We of course, see the parallel in Europe where largely out of a sense of guilt, exploited by business interests, the same Ponzi Scheme is being run over there with the encouragement of mass migration from the Middle East and North Africa.
When the least educated segment of a country is encouraged to mass migrate to another country, and is encouraged to not learn the language of the land to which they have migrated, and in tandem, the public schools lower the expectations of their American-raised (raised by the schools as the parents are toiling at their low-wage jobs) children, and of course migrate in unlimited numbers as any rule of law regarding immigration is removed, further incentivized by free "education" (indoctrination) and government services--often provided in the native language of the migrants, the combination of overcrowding, low education levels, and seditious ideology afoot even in secondary "education" is going to result in the inevitability of poverty and crime, with it's forerunner of the cautionary euphemism "at-risk youth".
One more thing: as long as the U.S. keeps enabling this scheme, the corrupt governments of the regimes to the south of us have no incentive to ever improve the lot of their people, so the billionaires who run those countries simply know they can dump their poor, unwanted, and often poorly-educated masses on the U.S., where they become political footballs kicked around by both sides of the political aisle here, where we see what was once open space getting developed in order to accommodate this mass migration of people, with the resultant crime, and on and on it goes. The rich get richer, the increasingly-poorer are pawns used among racial lines as the overlords laugh their way to the bank.
Wouldn't it be more humane that these countries to the south of us should fix their dystopian economies? Side note: where is the proof that these businesses which hire these people who supposedly "do the work Americans won't do" (translation: work at depressed wages where the employers circumvent the labor laws) are actually passing the saving onto us? Note: I posted this on the SB Current site and was requested to forward this to you, perhaps those requesting I do this do not know I do not live in Santa Barbara. Nonetheless, my letter is intended for all audiences.
WSJ today full page article in the Future of Everything supplement: "Meet the Fully Autonomous Farm". Autonomous tractors, fruit picking robots, remote sensing, soil intelligence, and virtual fencing. Robots can now pluck a single strawberry and identify the right pesticide to use on any particular weed.
Looking forward to a home robot who will humanely attack the nasty rat, who is currently dining on my tomatoes in the wee small hours of them morning. All professions now are subject to replacement, including most entry level jobs for college graduates today also according to the WSJ. Plan future labor needs accordingly.
Necessity remains the mother of all invention, so says GROK for free.
At the core of all of this is the idea that somehow one group of people (Hispanics--mainly Mexicans) were created to work at low wages and in unsafe conditions to prop up the economy of another. (The United States) That theory, whether promoted by well-meaning liberals, or cold-blooded business interests, is both racist, and undermines the purpose of the labor movement which worked so hard and bravely to improve workers' conditions in the United States in the first half of the 20th century. We of course, see the parallel in Europe where largely out of a sense of guilt, exploited by business interests, the same Ponzi Scheme is being run over there with the encouragement of mass migration from the Middle East and North Africa, but over there, there is the added factor of the fundamentalist aspect of Islamic ideology.
When the least educated segment of a country is encouraged to mass migrate to another country, and is encouraged to not learn the language of the land to which they have migrated, and in tandem, the public schools lower the expectations of their American-raised (raised by the schools as the parents are toiling at their low-wage jobs) children, and of course migrate in unlimited numbers as any rule of law regarding immigration is removed, further incentivized by free "education" (indoctrination) and government services--always provided in the native language of the migrants, the combination of overcrowding, low education levels, and seditious ideology afoot even in secondary "education" is going to result in the inevitability of poverty and crime, with it's forerunner of the cautionary euphemism "at-risk youth".
I got my first taste of this when I entered Santa Barbara High School in 1976 and became familiar with the on-campus group MEChA (sic), which is an acronym for Movemiento Estudiental Chicano de Aztlan. I noticed how angry these kids looked, as their enabling teachers and administrators looked upon the situation with apparent approval without dissent. The other thing was, any Mexican or Black student that focused on honing their academic skills for life were often ostracized as "acting white". The two-tiered system of expectations along racial lines was clear.
One more thing: as long as the U.S. keeps enabling this scheme, the corrupt governments of the regimes to the south of us have no incentive to ever improve the lot of their people, so the billionaires who run those countries simply know they can dump their poor, unwanted, and often poorly-educated masses on the U.S., where they become political footballs kicked around by both sides of the political aisle here, where we see what was once open space getting developed in order to accommodate this mass migration of people, with the resultant crime, and on and on it goes.
Wouldn't it be more humane that these countries to the south of us should fix their dystopian economies? Side note: where is the proof that these businesses which hire these people who supposedly "do the work Americans won't do" (translation: work at depressed wages where the employers circumvent the labor laws) are actually passing the saving onto us?
Remember that the employers need to be held to account financially and criminally for breaking federal laws and hiring laws. And, recognize that Carbajal benefits financially from this arrangement, the least of which is donations for his and others campaigns. And also ask yourselves, who facilitated these people coming into the US in the first place, how did they benefit financially, and what else did they bring with them when they came?
Our public school systems are 100% exempt from making any citizenship or legal status enquires. Thus California K-12 and their powerful teachers unions should not be left out of the equation when asking this important question: who really benefits from open borders, and how.
But if an agent comes with a warrant they have to allow agents on Campus
Teachers barely make enough money to live on and must buy their own work materials. I don't think they are making any money off having more students in their classrooms, especially if they speak different languages. You can do better than this. Dig deep. There are valid reasons to oppose illegal immigration, this is not one. LEGAL immigration would benefit us all, but our government has not done its job in making valid networks of laws and permissions for work. For years, our crops were labored by immigrants who did not need legal permission to be here, decades later, they do. How it that their fault?
Wrong. Medium salary for SB teachers is $110,000...plus benefits...and get an enormous of time off...paid. Not big money...but not bad and total job security.
Good to know. I do know teachers outside of major "esteemed" addresses do not make much over 60-80k. The union member I'm familiar with, in running to keep her position, presented her campaign promise if she can retain her status then she can still enjoy the many opportunities for paid leave for such educational visits to Las Vegas, Palm Springs, and named others. She shared if these teachers didn't vote her back in, she would no longer get the perks of free fun places like Las Vegas. She really loved going to Las Vegas. She openly admitted her only interest was for her to continue in free trips. No mention of how the teachers were loosing out on salary increases or their safety rights due to dangerous students. And many more!
Transparent California - Santa Barbara County - K-12 school systems
NB: teachers work a 9 month year - administrators typically work a 12 month year
Salaries-benefits total compensation packages by school district, by position and by name for all Santa Barbara County schools;
https://transparentcalifornia.com/agencies/salaries/school-districts/#santa-barbara-county
Who worked the crops prior to the Bracero program?
Some of my White Midwestern relatives! Central Valley before it became the bread basket of the world! The Dust Bowl refugees and Arkies and Oakies. They lived in metal quanset housing outside of Bakersfield. No AC! No grocery store. No TV, it was the 20s! And many Blacks from the South also migrated and started farms. The women working beside the men! Others in their youth in the mid 40s worked in canning houses pitting peaches for .25 an hour. I do not want to work the fields, but my grandmother hauled a cotton sack at 3yo in west Texas as a share cropper tenant helping her family, 1903! Please to those who DO NOT KNOW, stop erroring on the side of ignorance. Not all of us were born with a silver spoon!!
My point exactly, but the defenders of the "they do the work Americans won't do" argument don't mention this, either by intent, or because they don't know history.
CH: There is a fundamental error in your conclusion about immigration policy reform being a GOP failure. If you recall the 2024 GOP platform included **continuing** with the immigration reform policies put in place under President Ronald Reagan, which included both limited amnesty considerations and a secure border. This was a two-part immigration reform promise.
Trump vowed he would complete the secure border part of promise that was never put in place but remains a critical part of that original GOP led immigration reform agreement, even though a degree of amnesty was granted at that time under Reagan. Never forget it was the Democrats who sabotaged Trump's 2016 Wall building efforts, which was one crucial part of that GOP original promise. Once burned, twice shy.
Ensuring Trump's currently more secure border is not something that is accomplished in just a few months, but needs to be validated after several years of new policies put into practice. Only then can we move on to fully reviewing other immigration reform measures, under these new MAGA principles.
Chris Hall: Be sure to distinguish between the value of open borders to teachers unions; versus the impact of open borders on the actual classroom teacher. They are often in direct opposition to each other, but the teachers are the ones who certify their choice of the teacher union to represent them.
The public is often confused about the difference two when the teachers unions engage in massive political/partisan PR campaigns. The unions then become the public face for teachers, who indeed are struggling on their own inside individual classroom providing this essential public service. Rarely do individual teachers engage in any level political influence peddling, without teacher union encouragement and/or guidance through their teacher union political action committees.
You best talk to your unions, if you feel there is insufficient trickle down to the classroom teacher from the California Prop 98 mandatory public education funding - 50% of all general fund revenues dedicated automatically to K-14.
Your own choice of your teacher union representative, who is chosen by the teachers themselves, is who allocates this large amount of public funding for schools in this state, along with often supporting more pro- teacher union backed candidates for school boards who become the voices and faces of this unholy alliance spending these education funds. .
Taxpayers are not the one's you need to convince of your stated stated woes, because they have already handed you the generous Prop 98 schools funding amounts every year, along with multiple parcel taxes and school bond issues on top of that Prop 98 general fund allocation.
The public has already dedicated generous support for public education. Not getting a sound public education system in return for this long history of very generous public support has been a profound betrayal. This is the issue you must take up with your teacher unions - because they are the unelected third party alien force in this whole equation
You need to discuss your complaints with your own teachers unions, who direct where school funding actually ends up after their engagement in your contract negotiations.
Do you allocate less of that total K-12 funding amount for health care benefits, compensation packages, automatic COLA, longevity increments, professional advancement premiums, or pension contributions, and instead instead carve out more money for home financing? This is all between you and your unions; and not the taxpayers.
California's school funding system is uniquely tied to student attendance, using a metric called Average Daily Attendance (ADA), according to the California Department of Education. This means schools receive funding primarily based on the average number of students attending school each day, rather than simply the total number of students enrolled. The more students attending class, the more funding the school receives.
Should be performance based...and NO TENURE !!! ZERO!
Did you not gain from the relationship? You don't eat the fruits and vegetables grown here in America?
Sooo....we will not have fruits or vegetables absent illegal aliens? Really. Or do you mean if higher wages were paid to legal workers it would be an inconvenience? Note that nations such as Australia and New Zealand are more advance/mechanized in harvesting because they do not have common borders with third world countries. We should too.
You make my previous point that illegal immigration advocates first site cheap labor, menial jobs etc. Thank you.
They're gonna devlop automation and to pick and everyone can clean their own home!!!!!
Yes! A little hard work builds character and the APPRECIATION for understand the value in life. Ask any self start-up vintner. They do the clearing, planting, building their business from the ground up! NO painted manicured hands. 20 years later, they may begin to benefit from the FRUIT of their labor. Life is not a cake walk! For most of us.
CH: More US farm land is lost every year already in the US- food imports are already a reality. Automation is also supplanting much of the ag labor requirements every year.
So are you using that vague extortion argument - keep bringing in illegals so people can continue to exploit them for cheaper food/goods/ services? That is what I am hearing. This is why ignoring illegal border crossings is not a healthy direction for anyone to be encouraging. Reality adjustment time.
You nailed it Bill! Now please email above to the misguided reps who will deliver our tax dollars to NGOs . Meeting starts at 11:30 TODAY, City Hall, DeLaGuerra Plaza
Clerk@SantaBarbaraCA.gov
The 3 certain Council votes to fund NGOs, plus anticipated 4th vote (Harmon):
OGutierrez@SantaBarbaraCA.gov. D3 Westside
WSantaMaria@
D1 Eastside
KSneddon@
D4 Eucalyptus Hill/ Riviera
MHarmon@
D6 Downtown
It is time to ask our Mayor to reduce the tone of hostility and outright hysteria now encountered in these attempts to conduct full public discussions. They have become one-sided verbal thuggings and not an environment where honest and open community discussions can and should take place. Yes brand new Councilwoman Wendy Santamaria, I am mainly talking about you.
Come to listen, not make high drama, unilateral demands. Last I knew, both the city administrator and the city police chief are not elected policy makers either and need to demonstrate a lot more even-handed temperance in their public input as well.
Yes. All the Cities and Congressional Representative.
There were two speakers today supporting 805 that told the CC if you don’t do something about ICE we will have to take matters into our own hands
Threats of violence in order to obtain a material benefit is extortion. If more than one jointly makes this same threat, it is a conspiracy to commit extortion.
We've certainly have seen 1,000s on that payroll agenda since 2020! Liars, cheaters, and thieves. Shame on the Woke Santa Barbara faux leaders who self righteously appoint themselves the authority over others. They are not the authority. They are to represent ALL the people. Not lie in wait to take out those who find out their corruption. Evil walks among us.....
Let them. Sounds like what they did to businesses during BLM. They made them post on their windows if they supported them and wasn't there a tax or something on our food Bill for BLM at that time.
More often than not the knee jerk comment I hear from supporters of illegal immigration is centric to maintaining low wages, cheap labor, servile labor etc. "Who is gonna (fill in the blank)"?? It's elitist, arrogant, condescending, shameful and broadly "racist".
As $46 billion US dollars goes out the back door to Mexico every year as remittences from Mexican nationals, and does not recirculate in the US economy. As Ricky would always tell Lucy,...... you have some "splaining" to do.
That is your interpretation. It is solid fact. The people who we need to do this work are exactly the people ICE targets. Where is there any room for a question on that?
CH: Huh? We had a sound seasonal and legal bracero work permit program in the past .I don't know of anyone who is against reinstitution this controlled and regulated labor exchange, if there is both legal and mutual benefit. But you seem to be arguing for something else. With vague threats of extortion, as your only fall-back position. That honestly sounds very creepy.
It is outrageous that our elected officials are blatantly ignoring the laws of this country they swore to uphold. I really cannot fully comprehend their mindsets. And yes, we must get rid of them and replace them with those who take our Constitution seriously!
It’s up to you! Time is of the essence. TODAY MATTERS! 11:30 SB City Council Chambers.
SEND IN NOW your emails clerk@SantaBarbaraCA.gov and to the 4 reps who will vote to unlawfully fund NGOs to aid undocumenteds with judicially issued deportation orders. They will avoid legal action as government funders of “humanitarian aid”.
DHS, Noem, Homan don’t agree: Do you? Now is the time. Don’t wait. ACT!
CONTACT:
OGutierrez@SantaBarbaraCA.gov.
D3 Westside
WSantaMaria@
D1 Eastside
KSneddon@
D4 Eucalyptus Hill/ Riviera
MHarmon@
D6 Downtown
Starting with our President, who says one thing and does another, telling his fans whatever they want to hear, which enables him to continue breaking the law by firing people who are actually protected by laws, while refusing to spend money that the second co-equal branch of our federal government has allocated. Breaking contracts and withholding payments to people and companies who have in good faith already SPENT that money. This is equivalent to lying and demonstrates bad faith, which is evident to other nations. Whenever we attempt to enter into a contract in the future, they will take this into consideration, knowing that we, as a nation, might not uphold our promises. Our children are being taught that it is okay to lie, as long as you don't get caught.
This is really about the Democratic Party trying to win back the Hispanic vote before the next election. And, of course they're doing it the way they've done everything since 2016 - by telling Hispanics and gullible white liberals that ICE is not acting for the good of everyone, including Hispanic immigrants, but acting in a white supremacist, racist way because, of course, Trump is Hitler. They refuse to discuss facts and instead are working to divide Santa Barbara and cause violence that they can then blame on law enforcement and work to defund. It's pure and simple Leftist tactics and anyone who falls for it should be sent into a facility where they have to wear a mask and live in isolation for a year - so they understand that this is the exact same tactic that the Left used during Covid to seize control. It has nothing to do with sensible immigration or protecting immigrant children and everything to do with the Democratic Party's lust for tyranny.
"They refuse to discuss facts and instead are working to divide Santa Barbara" - Santa Barbara has been divided - no idea where you have been. It's just become more visible since Trump.
Huh?
What are you confused about?
The facts are that Trump has broken laws with his executive orders many times. It is illegal for him to disband agencies and fire employees; these laws are supposed to keep a greedy ruler in check, but we just never had one before! It is illegal for him to accept gifts, so he calls them something else - that is called lying, children. People are being disappeared, Polly. Now that the lights are shining on the practice, detainees get to make phone calls. These detainees are held with barely a place to go to the bathroom, they stay in their dirty clothes for a week, sleep on the floor, etc.
I fully expect he will say he will comply with the courts, all while he does not. Now he has the Supreme Court issuing fast-food-style rulings. No deliberation, and no reasons to back their decisions.. This has never been done before - he is breaking every egg in the carton, and someone will need to clean up this mess when Americans wake up and see what he has up his sleeve. I understand WHY you want to believe what he says.
Interesting. Any backup...substantiation...source on your post? Facts...not emotion. Serious question. Thanks...
In regard to Federal Immigration Laws against harboring, hiding, assisting criminal illegal aliens evade capture and arrest by the federal government agents like ICE; What are the possible federal law legal consequences? What about consequences for cities and county governments that fund NGOs to harbor, hide or otherwise help illegals evade arrest by federal agents.. what is their possible liability?
Federal Immigration Laws on Harboring Illegal Aliens
Under U.S. federal law, specifically 8 U.S.C. § 1324, it is a crime to knowingly or recklessly harbor, conceal, or assist undocumented immigrants in evading detection, apprehension, or arrest by federal authorities, such as Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). This includes actions like providing shelter, transportation, or other forms of aid with the intent to shield undocumented immigrants from immigration enforcement.
Legal Consequences for Individuals or Organizations
The penalties for violating 8 U.S.C. § 1324 depend on the nature and severity of the offense:
* Basic Harboring Offense:
* Imprisonment: Up to 5 years per violation.
* Fines: Significant monetary fines, potentially up to $250,000 for individuals or $500,000 for organizations under 18 U.S.C. § 3571.
* Civil Penalties: Injunctions or restraining orders to cease activities.
* Aggravated Circumstances:
* If the offense results in serious bodily injury to any person, imprisonment can increase to up to 20 years.
* If the offense results in death, the penalty can escalate to life imprisonment or, in extreme cases, the death penalty.
* If the offense was committed for financial gain, additional fines and penalties may apply.
* Conspiracy or Aiding and Abetting:
* Individuals or entities conspiring to harbor or assist undocumented immigrants can face the same penalties as those directly committing the act.
* Forfeiture:
* Assets used in or derived from harboring activities (e.g., property, vehicles) may be subject to civil or criminal forfeiture.
Liability for Cities and County Governments Funding NGOs
Cities or counties that fund non-governmental organizations (NGOs) engaged in harboring or assisting undocumented immigrants to evade federal authorities could face significant legal and financial consequences, though direct prosecution of local governments is rare and complex due to jurisdictional and immunity issues. Potential liabilities include:
* Federal Criminal Liability:
* If a city or county knowingly funds NGOs with the specific intent to facilitate violations of 8 U.S.C. § 1324, officials or entities involved could be prosecuted for conspiracy or aiding and abetting. Penalties would mirror those for individuals or organizations (fines, imprisonment for officials).
* Proving intent is challenging, as governments may claim funds were allocated for humanitarian purposes (e.g., food, shelter) rather than to evade ICE.
* Civil Liability:
* The federal government could pursue injunctions or lawsuits against cities or counties to halt funding of NGOs engaged in illegal activities.
* Loss of Federal Funding: Under 8 U.S.C. § 1373 and related executive orders, cities or counties deemed to be obstructing federal immigration enforcement (e.g., "sanctuary cities") may risk losing certain federal grants, such as those from the Department of Justice or Department of Homeland Security. Courts have upheld this in cases like United States v. California (2018).
* State-Level Consequences:
* In states with anti-sanctuary laws (e.g., Texas’ SB 4), local governments funding NGOs that assist undocumented immigrants in evading ICE could face state-imposed penalties, including:
* Fines: Up to $25,500 per day for violations in Texas.
* Civil Penalties: Lawsuits by state authorities.
* Removal of Officials: In some cases, elected officials could face removal for non-compliance.
* Practical Challenges:
* Prosecuting local governments or NGOs often requires clear evidence of intent to violate federal law, which can be difficult to establish if NGOs claim they are providing legal humanitarian aid.
* Sovereign immunity may protect cities or counties from certain lawsuits, but individual officials could still face personal liability if acting outside their authority.
Key Considerations
* Sanctuary Policies: Cities with "sanctuary" policies limiting cooperation with ICE (e.g., refusing detainer requests) are generally not considered to be harboring under 8 U.S.C. § 1324, as non-cooperation alone does not equate to active concealment. However, funding NGOs that directly harbor or transport undocumented immigrants to evade arrest could cross the legal threshold.
* Case Law: In United States v. Aguilar (1988), the Supreme Court clarified that harboring includes actions that substantially facilitate an undocumented immigrant’s ability to remain in the U.S. illegally. Courts have applied this broadly to include NGOs or individuals providing direct aid with intent to evade enforcement.
* Recent Trends: The Department of Justice has pursued actions against sanctuary jurisdictions (e.g., lawsuits against California and Seattle), but direct criminal prosecutions of local governments are rare. Instead, the federal government often uses funding restrictions or civil litigation.
Conclusion
Individuals or NGOs violating federal harboring laws face serious criminal and civil penalties, including imprisonment, fines, and asset forfeiture. Cities or counties funding such activities could face federal lawsuits, loss of funding, or state penalties, particularly in anti-sanctuary states. However, proving intent and overcoming immunity defenses complicates direct liability for local governments.
The individuals in city and county government that aid in the illegal intervention of our federal laws should be held to account by federal authorities, as should the funding of the cities and the counties.
Santa Barbara residents voted to raise taxes to support safety measures not to harbor illegals invading our communities. It appears our elected officials in Santa Barbara county don’t agree and are using our money to thwart Federal law in support of criminal aliens.
Yes Michael, that’s exactly what is happening and just like the $100k referendum passed by the Goleta City Council. Sure hope folks remember this outrageous use of tax dollars at the ballot box!
Thank you Christy for this article.
Just yesterday,Denice Spangler- Adams posted an article about this same issue. It seems as if it has gained attention from the California Globe.
I fully support Bill Brown also. He has been the voice of reason and support during the Thomas Fire and subsequent Floods,BLM riots,COVID overreach,Campus protests and protecting and serving everyday.
These politicians are trying to coerce and bully him to denounce the ICE Raids.
A sheriff cannot be fired,and they know that, and a sheriff's job is to follow the Constitution ,as he is doing. These other leaders are not.
I've come to realize,after watching one City meeting l,that the folks on the City Council are not qualified to run our Cities.
Tell me why no one is supporting the children that were rescued? Why won't they even discuss this and cry with outrage over the issue that they were trafficked and or sexually abused,investigation still ongoing.
With the previous administration,there was full support of this behavior from elected officials but not this one and they won't win any of the other lawsuits they signed their names to wasting taxpayer money.
Sanctuary laws need to end in order for agents to go to jail and not in the streets where the criminals are living once released from jail.
It may come down to Marshall law in order to deal with the illegal activity of Sanctuary Cities and their leaders.
Outstanding Article!
……“Salud Carbajal and his cronies are asking our Elected Sheriff Bill Brown to oppose the Federal government mandate and to not support the removal of 13 felons from our community, not to support the rescue of 14 minors, 10 that were unaccompanied by parents, and one that was identified as part of human trafficking.
Mr. Carbajal wants people to believe it is because LATINO moms and pops are being taken. Predominantly serious lawbreakers and people here illegally are the focus of Immigration and Customs Enforcement and those being taken and investigated are getting their due process. Salud would want you to think otherwise, but that is false.
We must respect the law and the Federal Government rule. If there is a discussion to be had or changes made with regard to negative effects of Immigration Enforcement policies, then we need to find the proper channels to have those conversations to change it.
We support the Federal Government and Sheriff Bill Brown in the difficult job of handling these matters professionally with Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers.”
Just as in the old Sergio Leone, Spaghetti Westerns, we find ourselves in a “Mexican Standoff” between our virtuous “justice warriors” and “El Migra.” Yes, all this excitement comes while local lefty’s are preoccupied with Old Spanish Days, wearing their Mexican Sombreros and dancing the Mexican Hat Dance just as this “campaign of terror” is going on with masked ICE Agents. It’s almost comical how there was an outbreak of public phony outrage which threatened our annual celebration! But no, the powers that be declared too much dinero would be lost for all the virtue signaling NGO’s if Fiesta was cancelled. So here we are…Viva La Fiesta!
As for Sheriff “Deputy Dawg” Brown, he finds himself in a pickle! On one hand he has to toe the lefty line and act as though he’s on board with their charade, on the other hand, he runs the risk of being Federally charged with obstruction of Federal Law Enforcement. At the end of the day, Brown will do the right thing…which is to protect his pension!
As for the owners of the Glass Factory, how is it their not in jail?
How can the owners employ known criminals and allow them in our community?
As for our elected Congressman, Salud Carbajal, what a clown and embarrassment. This, while gaining national media coverage and proving to the entire world how dysfunctional we are as a community. The very idea is outrageous that Carbajal would dox Federal Agents and then try to force his way into an active criminal investigation, all while having a meltdown over removal of known, dangerous desperados.
Talk about doubling down on stupid!
Kristi Noem just recently brought up Salud and his behavior by doxing agents by showing the agents card to the press. Salud even admitted to that.
This adminstration will not back down and possibly arrest or fine even Congressional Representatives who obstruct the law.
Salud being pursued by DHS or the DOJ would be the shot hears round our little blue world
Excellent point LT, on why the owners of the Glass House (not Factory - where I'm betting we both used to shoot) are not in jail or at least in some sort of trouble. I've always felt that if we're stepping up enforcement on those here illegally, we should have an equally appropriate enforcement of those hiring them. I'm sure the hotel owners and farmers don't want that though.......
The Glass House owners are in trouble, TJohn, with pending litigation which prompted the raid on these two specific business locations: Camarillo and Carpinteria.
The INVESTIGATIVE DIVISION of ICE had the judicially issued warrants.
The ICE Enforcement Division handles typical arrests for those with Court ordered Deportation Orders.
I encourage interested persons to read up on DHS, Immigration Enforcement, and the various divisions of ICE.
And all that are connected to it.
Ya TJ, I’ve blown up a few things at the Glass Factory on E. Camino Cielo over the years. Sure was fun, letting loose with full metal jackets. The problem was inevitably a few undesirables would show up that lacked any sense of gun safety. Stupid shit, pointing the barrel at each other, walking around with fingers on the trigger. Typical gang banger moves.
Now days I go enjoy my 2nd Amendment rights at WCGC, been a member for years. We need to watch the lefty wackos and make sure they leave our range alone, as there had been talk of closing.
Not about race. Of course the leftists wil always try and frame it as such. Its all they ever do. At its core, It’s about a bunch of rich white liberals who want to maintain a slave labor force to maintain their lifestyle and representation in Congress, just like they did over 170 years ago. It’s obvious.
My "summer read" at the moment is John Grisham's "Camino Ghosts". He references as a precursor to his tale the African Slave Trade as it existed in 1760. Everyone above the age of 13 were rousted from their sleep in deep dark villages by corps of African hooligans and dragged several hundred miles to the Atlantic coast, where the isolated villagers for the first time saw the ocean and their first glimpse of anybody who wasn't black. The African hooligans were paid for their efforts as the unwilling slaves were herded onto cargo ships for the dangerous and unpredictable trip to Savannah, GA. The point I'm attempting to make from this story is that it could very possibly be the descendants of today's Rich White Liberals who were the decadent scoundrels behind the pre-Independence British colonial efforts to introduce "cheap labor" into the Southern plantation economy. The modern Democrat Party didn't come into being until Andrew Jackson ran for president almost 70 years after the telling of Grisham's tale of misery. But let it be said that "race" has always been at the core of Democrat Party political strategy and social ideology - from the days of the Slave Trade down through the Woke policies of Identity Politics.
Democrat party grew out of principled Jeffersonian/Republican party but yes, agreed.
I just call em as I see em
Same group, same need for cheap slave labor, same tactics and politics…if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…it’s a duck. 🤷♂️
I grew up in the South, I know what this is, not fooled.
Isn't the south wall-to-wall Red now?
Yes, mostly, except for the big gentrified urban centers like New Orleans, Atlanta, Austin, etc.
Not sure why that is at all relevant to this 🤷♂️
The South is no longer the biggest importer and user of slave labor…but it used to be. If you grow up there, you would be steeped in the history and could recognize the same attitude towards slave labor and racism.
It would be like defending slavery today by opposing deportation and claiming those who advocate for deportation are racist and don’t want black people around. It’s an age old canard
The only question I have now is how long until the Democrats try to compromise by counting their illegal alien slave labor force as 3/5ths of a “person” for power and representation in Congress.
Don’t laugh, it’s what they did last time…in 1787
Here is what I wrote them:
At the core of all of this is the idea that somehow one group of people (Hispanics--mainly Mexicans) were created to work at low wages and in unsafe conditions to prop up the economy of another. (The United States) That theory, whether promoted by well-meaning liberals, or cold-blooded business interests, is both racist, and undermines the purpose of the labor movement which worked so hard and bravely to improve workers' conditions in the United States in the first half of the 20th century. We of course, see the parallel in Europe where largely out of a sense of guilt, exploited by business interests, the same Ponzi Scheme is being run over there with the encouragement of mass migration from the Middle East and North Africa.
When the least educated segment of a country is encouraged to mass migrate to another country, and is encouraged to not learn the language of the land to which they have migrated, and in tandem, the public schools lower the expectations of their American-raised (raised by the schools as the parents are toiling at their low-wage jobs) children, and of course migrate in unlimited numbers as any rule of law regarding immigration is removed, further incentivized by free "education" (indoctrination) and government services--often provided in the native language of the migrants, the combination of overcrowding, low education levels, and seditious ideology afoot even in secondary "education" is going to result in the inevitability of poverty and crime, with it's forerunner of the cautionary euphemism "at-risk youth".
One more thing: as long as the U.S. keeps enabling this scheme, the corrupt governments of the regimes to the south of us have no incentive to ever improve the lot of their people, so the billionaires who run those countries simply know they can dump their poor, unwanted, and often poorly-educated masses on the U.S., where they become political footballs kicked around by both sides of the political aisle here, where we see what was once open space getting developed in order to accommodate this mass migration of people, with the resultant crime, and on and on it goes. The rich get richer, the increasingly-poorer are pawns used among racial lines as the overlords laugh their way to the bank.
Wouldn't it be more humane that these countries to the south of us should fix their dystopian economies? Side note: where is the proof that these businesses which hire these people who supposedly "do the work Americans won't do" (translation: work at depressed wages where the employers circumvent the labor laws) are actually passing the saving onto us? Note: I posted this on the SB Current site and was requested to forward this to you, perhaps those requesting I do this do not know I do not live in Santa Barbara. Nonetheless, my letter is intended for all audiences.
Bill Clausen P.O. box 975, Buellton, Ca, 93427
EMAIL NOW: "As a tax paying citizen and business and property owner, I instruct you NOT to fund the NGOs facilitating the illegal aliens in our community.
They need to be deported.
And businesses employing them must face the penalties of the law for doing so.
Please ensure this message is entered into the public record before the vote.
TO: "RRowse@santabarbaraca.gov" <RRowse@SantaBarbaraCA.gov>, " WSantamaria@santabarbaraca.gov" <WSantamaria@SantaBarbaraCA.gov>, " MJordan@santabarbaraca.gov" <MJordan@SantaBarbaraCA.gov>, " OGutierrez@santabarbaraca.gov" <OGutierrez@SantaBarbaraCA.gov>, " KSneddon@santabarbaraca.gov" <KSneddon@SantaBarbaraCA.gov>, " EFriedman@santabarbaraca.gov" <EFriedman@SantaBarbaraCA.gov>, " MHarmon@santabarbaraca.gov" <MHarmon@SantaBarbaraCA.gov>, "Clerk@santabarbaraca.gov" <Clerk@SantaBarbaraCA.gov>
If anyone would like to sign this letter that we submitted to Pam Bondi at the Department of Justice yesterday, you can access the document here and comment with your Name, Title, and Email and I will add to the list. Or my number is listed and you can text me.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11hkuJohX4SMBWv7BYQRtkBW-58VVPpdaW8HPpeIvv0s/edit?usp=drivesdk
Thank you, Christy and thank you for speaking up at the meeting.
Thank you for assembling this. We all have to stick together and push back. Id like an App to be able to report all the lies and illegal activity by our City and State leaders.
Don't expect much from her after she lied about the Epstein files.
The left will believe anything the left leaning news tells you. I can tell you all that they've said this last 6 months have been lies. If you don't know your being set up with the Epstein Files to be released and you want it sooooo bad to bring down DJT,like they wouldn't have tried that already so they have to assassinate him.
Anyway I wouldn't ask and hope for something you don't want to see because what will really be on the list is your favorite Democratic politicians,movie stars,sports stars etc ..
Take a peak at the Flight logs that'll give you a clue. Like Bill C visited the Island 28 times a man who raped many women and Monica L scandal.
"You guys"? Last I checked I was one person. Your ramblings here do not refute the fact that Pam lied.
Who hasn't lied? Biden,Kamala Hillary etc...
I don't know the details cuz I don't watch Colbert,but have you never lied?????
What does that have to do with my one sentence response to Christy about Pam???
Why does matter. She doesn't need to be your best friend and I'm sure it wasn't true if it came from the news with a blue lens.
This is so damn typical of this page. I utter ONE SENTENCE of fact and the neocon Boomer brigade comes in to argue with me.
Really L. Angel? More than Bondi work at DOJ. In 2024, the DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY employed 54,994 persons. (Average annual salary was $112,063 and median salary was $107,590). Yes, DOJ, DHS, ICE are overwhelmed with priority work juggling many balls concurrently.
Keep high expectations for continued transparency and results.
Yes, really. The letter Christie attached is to PAM BONDI, so I responded about PAM, not other people who work there.
I applaud this article and effort. I also applaud the responses by Bill Clausen and Thomas Cole below.
I agree that the employers have some culpability in all of this. I personally officially toured several cannabis facilities with an eye to the costs/taxation policies of the Santa Barbara County budget for monitoring this industry. One thing that struck me, which was not a part of our investigation, was the fact that 99% of employees appeared to be of Hispanic descent; the only Caucasians were in the offices, and their number was a handful at each facility.
If this industry pays so well, why, in fact, is there such a lack of a more mixed workforce? Is language one of the key denominator? Note: I did not observe any children working.
Law enforcement, both locally and nationally, has a job to do. We have immigration laws and practices on the books that would work if we didn't have members of Congress, County Supervisors, City officials and NGO's interfering and obstructing the process.
We are a nation, state, county and cities of laws. Without these laws we have anarchy and are susceptible to more illegal immigration, which appears to have been nipped in the bud.
No, this reaction (by most responders to this article) is not based on some fanatical political philosophy; it is based on reason and rationality.
What does a national opinion poll indicate about current federal deportation efforts and the last six months of noisy organized protest against these federal deportation efforts?
From Townhall:
...."So after months of nonstop demagoguery and agitation against Trump and ICE -- while amplifying every deportation "outrage" or sob story (totally regardless of veracity) -- and with doxxing and attacks against federal agents skyrocketing, top-line public opinion on deportations hasn't budged. At all.
Nearly six-in-ten say the US should boot out criminal aliens, with another three-in-ten saying this should apply to all illegal immigrants (other differently-worded polls show majority support for such across-the-board deportations).
In total, approximately 90 percent support of the public supports mass deportations, with only about one-in-ten embracing what has effectively become the Democrats' extreme, anti-deportation stance.
Among Hispanics, 60 percent favor mass deportations of criminal aliens. Less than a quarter of Latinos share Democrats' position. A majority of these voters (54 percent) support Trump's border enforcement.".....
OK, I sent the letter to Harmon, Gutierrez, SantaMaria, and Sneddon, as well as Holly Perea. I edited it as follows "At the core of all of this is the idea that somehow one group of people (Hispanics--mainly Mexicans) were created to work at low wages and in unsafe conditions to prop up the economy of another. (The United States) That theory, whether promoted by well-meaning liberals, or cold-blooded business interests, is both racist, and undermines the purpose of the labor movement which worked so hard and bravely to improve workers' conditions in the United States in the first half of the 20th century. We of course, see the parallel in Europe where largely out of a sense of guilt, exploited by business interests, the same Ponzi Scheme is being run over there with the encouragement of mass migration from the Middle East and North Africa.
When the least educated segment of a country is encouraged to mass migrate to another country, and is encouraged to not learn the language of the land to which they have migrated, and in tandem, the public schools lower the expectations of their American-raised (raised by the schools as the parents are toiling at their low-wage jobs) children, and of course migrate in unlimited numbers as any rule of law regarding immigration is removed, further incentivized by free "education" (indoctrination) and government services--often provided in the native language of the migrants, the combination of overcrowding, low education levels, and seditious ideology afoot even in secondary "education" is going to result in the inevitability of poverty and crime, with it's forerunner of the cautionary euphemism "at-risk youth".
One more thing: as long as the U.S. keeps enabling this scheme, the corrupt governments of the regimes to the south of us have no incentive to ever improve the lot of their people, so the billionaires who run those countries simply know they can dump their poor, unwanted, and often poorly-educated masses on the U.S., where they become political footballs kicked around by both sides of the political aisle here, where we see what was once open space getting developed in order to accommodate this mass migration of people, with the resultant crime, and on and on it goes. The rich get richer, the increasingly-poorer are pawns used among racial lines as the overlords laugh their way to the bank.
Wouldn't it be more humane that these countries to the south of us should fix their dystopian economies? Side note: where is the proof that these businesses which hire these people who supposedly "do the work Americans won't do" (translation: work at depressed wages where the employers circumvent the labor laws) are actually passing the saving onto us? Note: I posted this on the SB Current site and was requested to forward this to you, perhaps those requesting I do this do not know I do not live in Santa Barbara. Nonetheless, my letter is intended for all audiences.
Bill Clausen P.O. box 975, Buellton, Ca, 93427"
WSJ today full page article in the Future of Everything supplement: "Meet the Fully Autonomous Farm". Autonomous tractors, fruit picking robots, remote sensing, soil intelligence, and virtual fencing. Robots can now pluck a single strawberry and identify the right pesticide to use on any particular weed.
Looking forward to a home robot who will humanely attack the nasty rat, who is currently dining on my tomatoes in the wee small hours of them morning. All professions now are subject to replacement, including most entry level jobs for college graduates today also according to the WSJ. Plan future labor needs accordingly.
Necessity remains the mother of all invention, so says GROK for free.