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Jim Buckley's avatar

Who is this Michelle Obama??

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J. Livingston's avatar

She is a political bio-mort that we keep breathing oxygen into, so she occasionally resembles some form of viable human life.

She and hubby playing 11th hour games with the Aramark Yosemite Valley concessions led to the loss of all Yosemite historic names for years - a great cost to taxpayers for replacement names, until their contractual oversight was finally settled.

Aramark sponsored MO's "Let's Move" program, so shall one consider there was some sort of misguided quid pro quo in that "scandal free" Obama administration after all?

For that attack on the history of Yosemite Valley of course, I can never forgive her. Even though all's well that finally ended well and the Ahwanhee and Wawona yet again reign supreme. Let the fire fall.

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Earl Brown's avatar

Love your rant JL. Did you ever see the fire fall? I worked in Yosemite one summer in college.

Michelle Obama - he's a jerk!

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J. Livingston's avatar

Every summer family camping at Camp Curry, the rangers would get us all to yell Let the fire fall. And by golly, it did. Magical. Of course that is no longer PC, but love my own memories of this shared camper experience.

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Earl Brown's avatar

Happy that you got a chance to see it - it ended in 1968.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Aha 1968, the start of the "environmental movement". Kill joys.

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DLDawson's avatar

My family also camped at Yosemite every summer back in the late 50s, early 60s…nothing quite so spectacular for kids as the fire falls! Also cool to watch the bears feed on the garbage put out by the rangers

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Earl...you do know about the saying where if you are stupid, you should really keep your mouth shut....right? I'm just trying to help you out here.

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Earl Brown's avatar

So, you've decided on no more comments?

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

See...THAT's what I'm talking about!! You are too stupid to even understand that it is YOU who are so stupid you should keep your trap shut. When MAGATs open their mouths, NOTHING but lies fall out of theire faces.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Walks like a Nancy. Talks like a Nancy, Shouts like a Nancy. Reacts like a Nancy. Insults like a Nancy. Could be a Nancy.

Nancy=NAZI. OMG, they are now amongst us.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

"She is a political bio-mort that we keep breathing oxygen into, so she occasionally resembles some form of viable human life."

But JL...what does it matter what you "think" about this intelligent, decent, smarter than you by ten fold lady................................. when you are clearly a racist MAGAT?

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Here's what your detestable pieces of shit have done to this, father, husband, gang-hating, innocent man who was sent off to an El Salvadoran gulag to be tortured for the rest of his life because Donald and his MAGATrePUKES "thought" he was a gang member with zero evidence, whatsoever and knowing he had legal status here in the United States.

They let him rot in prison as long as possible while they stalled all they could in trying to keep from having to bring him back to his HOME in the United States. The Assholes in the trump administration have admitted they sent him off on an "unfortunate administrative error"... If you evil characters had any decency, you'd work on trying to eradicate the racism from your spineless, feeble selves.

The Supreme Court FINALLY Rules

Joyce Vance

Apr 11

Late this afternoon, the Supreme Court (six of which are MAGAT stooges) issued a 9-0 response to the government’s application to vacate federal District Judge Paula Xinis’ order that the Trump administration return Kilmar Abrego Garcia from prison in El Salvador to the United States. Xinis had ordered him returned by the end of the day on Monday. The Supreme Court let him sit for an additional three days before ruling, in the end ordering the government to “facilitate” his return but suggesting they might not need to “effectuate” it.

Oh how awful....the rePUKES have to do the right thing...they have to do the decent thing. THIS must be killing these sociopaths.

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Pat Fish's avatar

Michael.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Patty FishTurd....only the UNeducated, LOVED by The Mango Mussolini, would think name calling someone far superior than themselves is a smart thing to do. Her intellect is, at least, 10 times that of your empty head provides. You don't even hide being a racist anymore....do you? How fantastic for you to have voted in a RatTurd who allows you to hate who he hates without guilt. Bravo PattyFishFreak.

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Bill Russell's avatar

She's the wife of an ex-President that YouTube's interesting, post-dieting stuff like "How to Climb In and Out of An Ant Hole."

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Sorry Billy...that isn't even a sentence...

"She's the wife of an ex-President that YouTube's interesting, post-dieting stuff like 'How to Climb In and Out of An Ant Hole'."

Doncha need a verb big guy?

It also shows you're not a serious player in the political conversation of the day.

And I laugh AT you because you can't even bring yourself to put a name to that EX-PRESIDENT. I actually will bet you that IF you did utter the name "Obama" you'd melt in a puddle. Of course, understanding that you are clearly a proud racist, you'd probably HAVE to include his middle name "Hussein", as harshly as you could, so you could be just as detestable as the traitor you voted for.

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Earl Brown's avatar

Oh, he voted for Biden? I'll be darned.

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Bill Russell's avatar

Worse yet, he voted for Harris, lol.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Here's what your detestable pieces of shit have done to this, father, husband, gang-hating, innocent man who was sent off to an El Salvadoran gulag to be tortured for the rest of his life because Donald and his MAGATrePUKES "thought" he was a gang member with zero evidence, whatsoever and knowing he had legal status here in the United States.

They let him rot in prison as long as possible while they stalled all they could in trying to keep from having to bring him back to his HOME in the United States. The Assholes in the trump administration have admitted they sent him off on an "unfortunate administrative error"... If you evil characters had any decency, you'd work on trying to eradicate the racism from your spineless, feeble selves.

The Supreme Court FINALLY Rules

Joyce Vance

Apr 11

Late this afternoon, the Supreme Court (six of which are MAGAT stooges) issued a 9-0 response to the government’s application to vacate federal District Judge Paula Xinis’ order that the Trump administration return Kilmar Abrego Garcia from prison in El Salvador to the United States. Xinis had ordered him returned by the end of the day on Monday. The Supreme Court let him sit for an additional three days before ruling, in the end ordering the government to “facilitate” his return but suggesting they might not need to “effectuate” it.

Oh how awful....the rePUKES have to do the right thing...they have to do the decent thing. THIS must be killing these sociopaths.

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Bill Russell's avatar

Sorry for the verb omission, Harvey; it wasn't done purposely to inflame your mind. I was recently amusing myself with the realization Trump wants to stop all the "Made in China" stuff, such as plumbing parts. Why? Because city-slicker dudes like yourself will eventually go without water because there won't be any plumbing parts available till US manufacturing get on board making stuff again. But we country boys just brush off the metal chips on our lathes and hog out a new water valve out of stock brass laying around the shop. Water flows again; the cost is nothing.

It's difficult for us wood chopping country boys to say "Obama" because he admitted not to be able to fix stuff, making the guy worthless, IMO. Ask my wife why she married me, and she'll say it's because I can fix stuff.

I know it's ok to end a sentence with a preposition such as "for," but I think you can do better than that, Harvey. Are you a fine-tuned, political conversation person, Harvey? Do you carry a degree in political BS?

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

I tried to read your rant Billy, but you are seriously too far gone for anything you say to make sense. I keep on asking, but you never answer....have you taken your disinfectant injection today and have you watched tRUMP give his microphone a blowjob today, and have you shoved a UV light up your butt, and have you taken your hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin today?

Do you get all moist and horny when donOLD rants on and on about Arnold Palmer's massive penis size?

All these questions are important for me to gain a true understanding of tghe mind warp you are dealing with as you vote in a serial lying, pussy grabbing, rapist, racist, piece of shit traitor.

Now answer those and then...why do you support someone who has loudly claimed that he LOVES THE UNEDUCATED of this country? Next stop...The Late Great Hannibal Lecter.....GROWsirEEEEEEEZ. duh....

The MAGAT cult party is just so damn (expletive deleted)

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Bill Russell's avatar

You are a humorless guy, Harvey. I'm assuming you do know what humor is, Harvey. And you just don't have any. You better stay out of the locker rooms, or you'll spend time in a Trump Insane Asylum for Democrats. I can see you spinning around in circles, drool exiting your mouth, spitting saliva, beating your fist on the table ... thinking how bad you want a Tesla, but you can't have one because it isn't politically correct.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

BILLdill Dough...

I can't wait until you respond to the many things I have told you about the sick, twisted, piece of shit, serial lying, traitor, Nazi Pig. When do you think you will comment on all the TRUTHS I have demonstrated for you? The thing is....you hate that what I tell you is always the truth...like about giving his microphone a simulated blowjob and other incredibly STUPID things like that.

How about you use one post for every disgusting trumpian thing I have informed you about. That way you won't have to write about everything all at once in once post. You could use 3,885,666 different posts to comment on the 3,885,666 different, disgusting, demented, sub-human things your serial liar has done TO America.

Deal? Hey...can we get some cokes in here for cry sake??!!

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LT's avatar

Who JB? A over educated, ideologue who resents her country.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

LOL LT....now I have seen it all. You and your comrade MAGATS, who trump loves BECAUSE you are among the UNeducated in our country, have the ignorant nerve to berate someone who is VERY educated? LOL.... she must really trigger your weak, fragile ego eh, LT?

By the way....your writing: "A over educated blah blah blah" only shows, once again, that BenedictDonald only loves the uneducated. It's "AN"....not "A".....and "overeducated" is one word, genius.

But having to correct your grammar is secondary to my mission of making sure to expose the right's off-the-charts lying, sick racism, and vulgar treason.

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LT's avatar

Bruh, you’re obviously off your meds again. Piss off!

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Oh yessir, Bruhhhhhhhhhh. Fucking moron. It is time for your disinfectant injection. Can I assume you have already put the UV light up your butt? I don't want you getting COVID now....

Look...I can forgive your wanting to watch BenedictDonald give his microphone a blowjob...but I cannot forgive your believing the idiot's claim that windmills cause cancer.

Why don't you believe what JD Vance (JP MANDEL LOL!!) said when he called tRUMP, "America's Hitler"?? Why don't you believe him? I do! That may be the only thing JP Mandel and I agree on.

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LT's avatar

BTW, dumb shit I have 3 Degrees, YOU on the 5 year plan at SBCC?

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Right LT....I believe that just as much as I believe that GROWsirEEEEEZ is a real cool word....a real simple word.....an old fashioned word....

Do you know that word LT? It's such a simple word! I use it when I am putting bread and apples into a GROWsirEEEE bag. Most people don't know that word, but I use it all the time. Well...not ALL the time....I really only use it when I need to get groceries which I like to call GROWsirEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEzzzz!

My God you MAGATS are so fucking dumb. Why do you insist on voting in a Putin-Loving, democracy-hating, traitor?

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LT's avatar

My suggestion Pecker, I mean Becker, have your Doc up the Cymbalta.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

Really emphasizing that humility as a Catholic, LT - how pious of you.

And this coming from a conservative, someome skeptical of higher education and dismissive of the "authority" of those with degrees especially as se saw with COVID. Ironic.

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LT's avatar

Oh come on Teko, why be so butt hurt? I actually thought you made some great points today on Russian/Ukrainian relations.

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LT's avatar

I know Teko, I can be a real pious a-hole. BTW, you still working the night shift at Budget Inn?

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Jimbo...you wouldn't know because there is great truth to the fact that BenedictDonald only loves the UNeducated in this country. I would say that anybody over the age of 4 knows who the very decent, gracious, INTELLIGENT Michelle Obama is. So, logically, that makes you somewhere under 4 years old. This country has been hijacked by sociopaths.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Wow, anyone else remember when Nancy F. was selling the exact same song and dance about.... decent, kind, gracious, and intelligent Joe Biden? The similarities are eerie.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Do you remember when the Total Fucking Asshole Trump mocked Nancy Pelosi's husband after he was brutally attacked in his own home by someone with a hammer? Do you recall your PresidentPuke had the nerve to claim Paul Pelosi must have been in a gay relationship with the attacker and had an argument at some bar and THAT's why he got attacked You sons of bitches are detestable for the Vomit you vote for.

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Earl Brown's avatar

He's a fool who was married to the 2nd worse president the country has ever been infected with.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Do you remember when the Total Fucking Asshole Trump mocked Nancy Pelosi's husband after he was brutally attacked in his own home by someone with a hammer? Do you recall your PresidentPuke had the nerve to claim Paul Pelosi must have been in a gay relationship with the attacker and had an argument at some bar and THAT's why he got attacked You sons of bitches are detestable for the Vomit you vote for.

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Polly Frost's avatar

I'm eating Ukrainian sour cream on my kimchi duck egg omelette while reading Eringer bash Putin yet again. Ukrainian sour cream is the best - you can get it at the Euro Market on Hollister near Modoc. It has magical microbiological cultures which we could all use more of instead of the crap coming out of the biolabs we helped install there. And all I can think as I enjoy the sour cream's delicious tang is: why didn't the Obama and Biden administrations leave Ukraine's gut health alone? Those microbiological cultures were doing just fine before our government's installation of a cokehead whose own gut health is bombed every hour by his inhalations. And while you're buying Ukrainian sour cream, treat yourself to some affordable gut bliss at Pang Zi Noodles across the street.

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Bill Russell's avatar

Thanks for the post-tariff business concept of producing America's first Ukrainian Sour Cream. I believe it's not where it's made matters, but what a product is called. I like sour cream and butter, bacon bits and chives on microwaved baked potatoes. Sour cream is the home of the baked potato.

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Polly Frost's avatar

I second that, although I do like my potatoes roasted in duck fat.

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Tom Fitzgerald's avatar

Ah. We have not met. Potatoes in duck fat. Oh be mine. Here I am sipping my well deserved weekday Martini terrified that the Brits will find a way to cause a massive price rise in decent gin. I was intending to engage the current twit Harvey in a battle of wits; but, in the style of Oscar Wilde, I refuse to do such battle with an unarmed man (or whatever the pronouns would be preferred). Cheers.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Cheers!

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

I love how you morons are discussing sour cream while Zelenky's. children are being bombed in hospitals by Russia (a country you used to hate until BenedictDonald allowed you to love it because he is Putin's puppet).

What happened to the days that you whackos cried about how the Commies must die..... blah blah blah? Nope...now you love those mass murderers.

You're all so blind that you actually think Zelensky's not wearing a suit is the worst thing that has ever happened in this galaxy. I scratch my head and can only say, "pathetic"....

I wonder how it is that you could have watched the ignorant, sundowning, FELON berate OUR ALLY Zelensky in favor of OUR ENEMY Russia on national TV and not be embarrassed. I was thoroughly embarrassed and my pride in being an American greatly diminished that day. Good God what a detestable Piece of Trash your Lord (sent by God!!!!!!!!!!) is.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Harvey, since you are not presently on the Ukrainian front lines yourself, be glad Ukrainian products are getting introduced into the US. They will need the cash flow. Everyone doing their part.

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Polly Frost's avatar

The man who was one of the engineers of Russiagate, Strobe Talbott, stayed in my family's house when he was still a college student who translated Kruschev's Memoirs. I was a teen but could see he definitely saw himself as one of the anointed, to use Thomas Sowell's term. I didn't believe Russiagate at all when it came out.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Sorry...I don't see how the first part of your sentence segues into the second part of your sentence?

"Since you are not presently on the Ukrainian front lines yourself, be glad Ukrainian products are getting introduced into the US"

So because I am not on the Ukrainian front lines, I somehow should be glad that their products are getting introduced to the U.S.?

How does the former lead into the latter?

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J. Livingston's avatar

If you can't run with the Big Dogs, Harvey. Stay on the porch.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Holy fuck....boy you sure got me there JL! Dammit, how am I ever going to recover from that blast right in my face?! Yup...you win....I have no clever retort to your third grade taunt. LOL AT you!!

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Bill Russell's avatar

Ever consider selling yourself as a pinata (sorry Harvey, I lost the tilde)? You could fill yourself up with all kinds of sweet stuff and then let the kids bang the heck out of you to get at the sweet stuff. Give it a try and maybe you'll discover something about yourself.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Thanks Bill...for proving once again what a purebred MAGAT you are. So embarrassing for a United States citizen to worship a Putin-Loving Traitor. So embarrassing to be someone like you who lapped up trump's shit show in the White House when Zelensky (who is trying to save the lives of men, women, and babies in his country) got bashed by the unconscionable assholes JP Mandel and TraitorTrump.

I'm certain that you thought the most pressing question came when the 100% total fucking asshole MAGAT (going steady with the imbecile Marjorie Toilet Green) asked Zelensky why he wasn't wearing a suit. Trump lapped that up didn't he!!?.....even though the Asshole never says a word about Kid Rock's dipshit psycho costume or Musks T-Shirt and MAGAT hat in the Oval Office.

Yer all fucking hypocrites. Do you have any friends?

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Bill Russell's avatar

You seem to be my best friend right now because you like chatting with me, Harvey. I'm sorry Kamala isn't running things the way you would want them to be. Maybe within this century another Democrat will surface when the long line of Trump and Musk inheritors to the Presidency is completely exhausted. In the meantime, checkout in Ireland and make friends with "happy" Rosie O'Donnell. They like the bottled stuff in Ireland, too.

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No...I don't like "chatting" with you. I like exposing your horrendous love affair with a traitor to this country. You still haven't answered my question on whether you believe the Haitians were eating the dogs and eating the cats and eating the pets of the people who live in Springfield, Ohio.

AND..............you totally forgot to inform me if you had taken your morning disinfectant bleach injection. I await your reply on these 2 pressing questions.

While answering those 2 questions can you maybe add an answer to..........Why do you love Putin and a Putin-Loving, serial lying, detestable president when, in the past, you used to hate the murderous Putin and hated commies? What suddenly changed that you love our enemy and hate our ally Ukraine and 100% buy the bullshit that Ukraine started the war.

THIS is why rational people think the MAGAT cult is totally out to lunch and the lights are out.

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DLDawson's avatar

Too bad many in the West don’t have a better understanding (or do they?) of events in the lead up to the Russian Federation’s decision to confront Ukraine as a result of NATO and Western powers’ moves. Sad to read another example of ‘Mad Vlad’ this morning.

https://www.kanekoa.news/p/how-obama-and-biden-installed-neo

I realize that’s it difficult for people to wrap the heads around the possibility that Our Great Nation is a participant in pushing for the destruction of the Russian Federation, via Ukraine as a proxy with NATO running the operation. Why? Anyone else wonder why NAZI generals went on to populate NATO positions of control after the end of WWII?

https://x.com/i/grok/share/CpQo9YnPEaKVYb0nhMJ3pimEV

we have been trained to believe that Russia is the boogeyman…sad to watch the emasculation of Ukraine…who benefits? Fact: UKRAINE was the single largest Clinton Foundation donor. Coincidence?

Why was POTUS Trump framed re: Russia collusion?

Protect truth re: Hillary/DNC Russia collusion?

Why was POTUS Trump impeached re: Ukraine?

Protect truth re: Biden/[CLAS 1-99] UKRAINE collusion?

Blame 'opponent' for what they themselves are guilty of? [DNC media push echo _submitted 'talking points' _generate false narrative].

The Hole runs deep…

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LT's avatar

No so fast DL, we had former Nazis running our space program at NASA. Operation “Paperclip.”

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DLDawson's avatar

Yes we did…and people don't realize that most of the goal of project paperclip was not the rocket scientist. The number one goal was chemist and, specifically, vaccine chemist. They brought these guys over & filled up our pharmaceutical industry, but they also went to the food industry and the chemical industry and all sorts of forms.

Here’s a book pdf that tells more… https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Annie%20Jacobsen%20-%20Operation%20Paperclip.pdf

Also look up Operation Gladio (aka Operation Condor when applied in the Americas…

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Wait...are you sure you aren't talking about the Dumb-As-A-Rock Marjorie Toilet Greene explaining how the California fires are caused by secret, Jewish laser beams from outer space hitting the unraked forest floors?

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

There is no reason for Russia to invade Ukraine, security concerns wouldn't lead someone (Putin) to endorse the kidnapping of Ukranian children and state sponsored adoptions to "Russify" them. Russia has no reason to bully the small mountain Republic of Georgia, yet it did just that in 2008. Russia also has little reason to care for Transnistria, a tiny, largely worthless piece of land - you see what I'm getting at. Russia is simply a revanchist state, it wants land simply to claim it, because of even the smallest historical ties, it doesn't matter if people die, it doesn't matter if the land they want is literally worthless and insignificant, so long as Putin can have "more Russia" it's worth it.

"Autocrat of all the Russia's"... yet unlike the Tsars he is beither pious, traditional, or a noble man.

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DLDawson's avatar

Theo, since you are repeating the narratives, you have no idea of the reasons leading up to Russia’s military incursion in Ukraine…ponder this one, what would be your feeling if a foreign adversary, say China, decided to install missiles & rockets in Canada and/or Mexico with US major cities as targets?

Can you give me the two primary goals for Putin’s military incursion? Hint: your MSM sources will never tell…

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J. Livingston's avatar

Cuban missile crisis, redux.

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Bill Russell's avatar

I lived in Florida during that period, unforgettable.

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Tom Fitzgerald's avatar

I was a freshman in ROTC given a full combat kit, an M2 Carbine and an "MP" arm badge and stuck in the armory of a major 'land grant university'. It was confusing.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

"you have no idea of the reasons leading up to Russia’s military incursion in Ukraine"

WAIT! Are you admitting that Russia invaded Ukraine? The Head MAGAT boss ain't gonna like that!

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DLDawson's avatar

Hmmm…hard to imagine the time & effort to carry hate for more than half of your fellow Americans…I’ll put you along with the 17% of lost minds…

one of my favorites…

WATCH YOUR THOUGHTS THEY BECOME WORDS

WATCH YOUR WORDS THEY BECOME ACTIONS

WATCH YOUR ACTIONS THEY BECOME HABITS

WATCH YOUR HABITS THEY BEGOME CHARACTER

WATCH YOUR CHARACTER IT BECOMES YOUR DESTINY

— LAO TZU

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Oh nononono....you have it all wrong. I am a very happy person who ONLY hates traitors and those who vote for traitors. I hate them less than I hate Hitler, but I hate them nonetheless. Well wait a minute, I also hate assholes who take funds away from those conducting research on cancer in children in the name of "cutting waste and corruption". What crap

And I hate those who vote for the assholes who support defunding such research. So if you like these assholes, then I have to admit I do harbor hatred towards you. And if half this country supports a serial lying traitor to this country, who could care less for the life of our Capitol officers ...then they all do deserve the hatred because this country could do with less arrogant, disgusting, STUPID people.

If a president is a racist who sexually assaults women and LOVES inciting pricks to assault cops with fire extinguishers on their heads...then it is you who is very suspect for not hating them.

So.......ok....you DON'T hate assholes like that?? You are just so cool with trump lying his way through COVID killing 500,000 Americans on his claims that he "knows more about COVID than any doctor" and then suggesting DISINFECTANT INJECTIONS could cure you of the deadly disease. How many lies are you willing to accept from this DERANGED moron?

And you can take your all CAPS garbage and send it to some third grader who needs your juvenile advice.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

I don't watch the news, the "MSM" as you call it, I'm a traditional monarchist, which is more conservative than your own position, and I wouldn't care if China stationed misslies in Mexico or Canada, you know why? Because the strategic balance wouldn't change, it makes no difference if we get nuked from Moscow or Toronto - Kennedy and Excomm admitted as much during the Cuban Missile crisis, which was about optics mind you - if you get nuked the world ends, period.

Your condescension would work... if you knew more about history.

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DLDawson's avatar

Hmmm…you sound so worldly, but naive…do you know of the lead up to the Cuban missile crisis? FYI, it’s all the same people behind the scenes (CIA-Mossad +++) running both sides of the equations. WHO are the puppet masters?

JFK was on to them and, as you may know, wanted to break them into a 1,000 pieces & scatter them to the winds…thus his murder.

listen carefully, every word is true… imagine the growth of power and influence over the past 60 years by this dark side of the world?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwMl79xrTKI

Cuban missile crisis: Here's a more detailed explanation:

US Jupiter Missiles in Turkey:

In 1961, the United States deployed PGM-19 Jupiter missiles, capable of carrying nuclear warheads, to Turkey, a NATO base located 130 miles from the Soviet border.

Soviet Grievance:

Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev saw the US missile deployment in Turkey as a direct threat and a violation of the balance of power.

Cuban Missile Crisis:

In response, Khrushchev initiated the secret deployment of medium- and intermediate-range ballistic missiles to Cuba, aiming to create a similar threat to the United States.

Negotiations:

The US discovery of the Soviet missiles in Cuba led to the Cuban Missile Crisis, a tense standoff that brought the world to the brink of nuclear war.

Resolution:

Ultimately, Kennedy and Khrushchev negotiated a resolution, with the Soviets agreeing to remove their missiles from Cuba in exchange for a US pledge not to invade Cuba and a US agreement to remove its Jupiter missiles from Turkey, though this removal was done later to avoid appearing as a direct concession.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

The issue wasn't about a nuclear war, it's that neither Kennedy nor Khrushchev wanted to appear weak, the missiles could have remaimed in Turkey and Cuba, but for Kennedy missiles in Cuba was politically unnaceptable. Tje strategic balance was unaltered, America still had missiles in Turkey and it doesn't matter where you launch nukes from, MAD ensure even if you fire first you will rule over an irradiated land.

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LT's avatar

Who specifically are the “puppet masters,” DL?

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Bill Russell's avatar

Perhaps a surprise all-out nuclear bombing of Russia is being considered. "He who nuclear bombs first wins." Japan learned that one.

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J. Livingston's avatar

My studies into Japanese war history and recent in-depth visitation proposed it was the threat of the third bomb and not the first nor second ones that finally brought Japan to the table.

That one was *rumored* to strike the most sacred shine of all Japanese ancient heritage outside Osaka, where the three most sacred objects were housed and believed to prove the link of the birth arising from the Sun Goddess, thousand of years prior.

This alleged attack rumor was proposed to be the moment the Emperor finally capitulated. Apparently there never were attack plans for this site, and the second most sacred site - Kyoto - was intentionally spared by US forces. Was this an intentional disinformation campaign? Or just fanciful musing decades later.

The Japanese soul is very different from our western ones, so this is not outside the realm of possibility. .

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Bill Russell's avatar

Interesting history. Today's hydrogen bomb is about 1000 times more energy than the atomic bomb Japan experienced. It would take several megaton bombs to do serious damage to Moscow (Grok performed a five minute "DeepSearch"). Interestingly, if a simultaneous event occurred, there probably would not be anybody to direct any pre-planned Russian war event. My hunch is that Trump is discussing this approach with the Pentagon. It is so important to be the first to attack. Talk about something that has to be Top Top Secret.

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DLDawson's avatar

hmmm…didn’t make it past your first paragraph, no substance diatribe…you sound delusional & angry

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Well at least you read the part about the "hole in your head" and that's all that really matters in any discussions with you.

If you want a summary here it is: I debunked all the crap you stated and then informed you of what a detestable MAGAT you voted for....among a few other things.

One question that I would like to hear your response on is, "Do you think the assholes who stormed the Capitol were VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE who deserved trump's LOVE and PARDONS? Were they being treated just AWFULLY while in prison? Were they just PATRIOTIC TOURISTS engaging in CIVIL, LEGITIMATE, discourse?

LOL at the cult who can't see past their treason.

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Jeff barton's avatar

I'm looking down at my spam and eggs and wondering why this just tastes so darn good when deep down I know that it couldn't rightly be called food? Is it the culinary analogue to the main stream media for Democrats?

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Polly Frost's avatar

You can order spam at Live Oak. Great restaurant. The couple who own it are wonderful, too. https://order.toasttab.com/online/live-oak-cafe

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Bill Russell's avatar

I grew up on SPAM when I was a kid and liked it. I haven't had it since. I grew up on American Cheese and now hate the stuff. I hated asparagus when I was a kid because my mother made it "stringy." But if asparagus is cooked properly, I love it. I loved egg salad sandwiches when I was a kid, and I still do. I loved hot chocolate in a red plaid patterned Thermos on a cold New England school lunch day when I was a kid, and my thought is I would love it now. The Thermos carried in a Roy Rogers or Hopalong Cassidy lunch box. A red plaid patterned lunch box, even better filled with chocolate chip cookies from the apple jar.

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Polly Frost's avatar

I don't think spam is evil. This country has produced real non food and turned our good food into bad. And speaking of which, Joel Salatin posted on that subject amd MAHA this morning. https://www.thelunaticfarmer.com/blog/4/8/2025/nutrition-vs-toxins

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J. Livingston's avatar

As kids we loved Spam Night. Mother would bake it with a yellow mustard and pancake syrup glaze. Good eating in the 1950's. Betty Crocker would have been proud.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Polly, I need to introduce you to Hunza Valley, Pakistan yogurt made from yak milk, for a real fermented face off. But it must be fresh. Our small tour group plotted how we could introduce this into US market - we settled on "Asian dairy animal" thinking yak yogurt just might need some marketing fluffing. Goodness, it was good stuff.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Can you buy it here? I do love Bulgarian yoghurt (spelled with an h) which I have every morning. At the Euro Market along with Bulgarian Feta.

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J. Livingston's avatar

I am currently into Icelandic Skyr - not as unctuous as Yak yogurt but I like the promise of the "ancient Viking" bacterial count. Very versatile - from salad dressings, to tartar sauce, to just plain blueberries and walnuts.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Here's a dialogue between my husband and ChatGPT about yogurt:

RAY: I think Fage’s plain yogurt is pretty good but my wife finds it OK-but-lame. At the moment she’s wildly into Bulgarian yogurt that we pick up from nearby Euro Market. Is today’s Fage plain yogurt still what it once was? And how do real yogurt buffs view it these days?

CHATGPT: As for FAGE, your sense is spot-on. It’s still one of the better mass-market yogurts in the U.S., especially compared to most big-brand “Greek-style” offerings, but among purists and longtime yogurt nerds, it’s often seen as:

• A gateway yogurt. Good enough to be taken seriously, but not quite as bold or alive as the small-batch, tangy, traditional stuff.

• In decline, maybe. There’s some anecdotal grumbling among yogurt heads that FAGE changed after shifting some U.S. production to upstate New York around 2008–2010. The claim is that it got a little milder, a little more consistent, a little less Balkan. Nothing drastic, but enough for sensitive palates to notice.

What sets FAGE apart (still):

• It’s genuinely strained, not thickened with gums or starches like some imitators.

• No added sugar in the plain version.

• Texture is smooth and dense, not goopy or gelatinous.

But…

• It’s not as tangy or assertive as Bulgarian or some Lebanese or Persian yogurts.

• The cultures are active, but there’s a kind of domesticated feel to it now—like the wildness has been bred out.

If your wife is loving Bulgarian yogurt, I get it. That stuff tends to be livelier, with a sharper tang and often a looser, almost drinkable texture depending on the brand. Real Bulgarian yogurt (with Lactobacillus bulgaricus) hits the palate differently—there’s a kind of clean, sour snap to it that FAGE just doesn’t quite replicate. Would you say her ideal yogurt is thinner and zingier, or thick and mouth-coating but still tart? And do you ever cook with it, or is this strictly a spoon-and-sigh situation? Because if you’re both deep in the yogurt life, there’s a whole rabbit hole of styles and methods to explore—even raw milk cultures if you’re feeling frontier-ish.

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Polly Frost's avatar

I like Skyr ok, but it says it's from nonfat milk - that I don't like.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Polly, I use the whole milk version of Skyr. The non-fat Skyr is too thin and sharp for my own everyday tastes. No fulsome mouth appeal either. Plus, I bet it is made in a Wisconsin factory, and not in downtown Rjekjavik. Please ask your remarkable ChatGPT for me in you get a chance.. ChatGPT has some rather human characteristic in how it answers, reading where it thinks the reader wants to go?.

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Earl Brown's avatar

Ladies! Are all the gourmet goodies you're talking about as good as hamburgers and french fries? :)

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J. Livingston's avatar

Gary Laird's butcher shop in Santa Paula for great ground beef.

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Polly Frost's avatar

I love a good hamburger and fries, Mr. Brown.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Now Polly tell us where you get your duck fat, if we are talking potatoes.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Gelson's sells duck fat. I also buy it from D'Artagnan.

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Howard Walther's avatar

I read this article by "Intelligence Person" Mr. Eringer titled

"Cory Booker Rants! Mad Vlad's War Dance! Sir Elton's Thunderpants! Einstein Supplants!"

and I have a new title "US Crossed Russian Red Line to Possible WWIII"

I quote from Mr Eringer his Key Statements below "“Moscow orders another 160,000 servicemen to be conscripted – Russia's largest increase since war began in Ukraine – as Putin continues to delay ceasefire” (Daily Mail) AND This sounds neither like a dictator interested in peace nor a tyrant who has any intention of agreeing to a ceasefire in Ukraine. AND On the contrary, Mad Vlad is a brutal Stalinist/imperialist who desires to redraw the map with a blood-soaked bayonet"

The US Foreign Policy, since 1950s, has been Regime Change VIA Military/Intelligence Coups>

https://x.com/amuse/status/1903018522801820088/video/1

The US again has funded another War, the Ukraine War with 100's of Billions to basically Kill

hundreds of thousands of Russian's & Ukraine's. But the US is not messing with

a weak country like Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Iran, Iraq, Columbia, Cuba or even Puru but a

Major Superpower Russia.

Eringer makes this Burden Shifting and Shapeshifting Statement "Putin’s real script: Keep killing until Ukraine is either bled into submission or divided into manageable pieces."

The US Regime Change Program = Buy-Out the most Corrupt Dictators to DESTABLIZE the entire Region until EVEYTHING CRASHES & STEAL THE "MANAGEABOE PIECES" like World-Stock-Markets-Crash in the last few days THANK-YOU the Elite Globalist Like SOROS et al.

Here is How-It-Is-Done REGIME CHANGE weblink below>

https://x.com/PatReactsonX/status/1890504599343186272

"President Does Not Want to Formally Sign Off On It In Case It GOES WRONG ......"

JFK Assassination??? Trumps Two Assassination Attempts which are all very Chilling ...............

Howard Walther, Member of a Military Family

PS 1- Give Ukraine Billions for WAR then TAKE UKRAINE WEALTH - X weblinks>

https://x.com/DeshiProfessor_/status/1906647669927514622

https://x.com/amuse/status/1906646973949649072

PS 2- ELON & ROGAN - $$$ GOTO Giant Propaganda Machine, Giant Regime Change Machine>

https://x.com/ToscaAusten/status/1908502642055135557

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LT's avatar
Apr 8Edited

Cory “Spartacus” Booker is somewhat of a dichotomy. Highly educated, Stanford, Oxford and Yale, but chooses to live in a hell hole like Newark, NJ. I give him credit for putting his money where his mouth is, for living in a classic example of a Democratic run basket case ie, crime, despair, destruction, mayhem and debauchery.

Yes, his recent record breaking filibuster on the floor of the Senate lasted over 25 hours. What did he say? I have no idea. Not sure he does either. He obviously wants so bad to be the leader of his own party. A party which resembles his hometown…both being unmitigated disasters!

Too bad his Senate colleague is no longer by his side in the Garden State. Why? Because Bob “Gold Bar” Menendez is in a Federal Penitentiary for accepting bribes.

Time will tell if “Spartacus” can lead a rag-tag army against the Roman Legion, but clearly Cory Booker is no Kirk Douglas.

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J. Livingston's avatar

Cory could make such a good Republican with that talent package. Hope DOGE recruits him to the cause.

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J. Livingston's avatar

I believe Cory Booker's intent was to simply replace the name of Strom Thurmond's filibuster of the Civil Right Act as the previously longest speech in Congress.

That was a sly and deft touch on Booker's part. Therefore, what he said did not even matter. Just taking that old segregationist's name out of the Congressional record book was good enough. Volume, not content was Booker' goal. Which is probably why Booker is now getting new attention in the Democrat sweepstakes - infotainment and symbolism, counting as much as substance.

Just like Nancy Pelosi admitted she wanted two impeachments on the record against POTUS Donald J. Trump. In the interest of 22nd Century trivia games: Who was the most impeached President?

Overlooking the fact she is now in the record book for her two failed and bogus impeachment attempts. Which House Speaker had the most failed presidential impeachments on purely partisan lines? Why that would be none other than our own San Fran Nan.

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Cate wilkins's avatar

Your fans LOVE your revues. Those that don’t, but read them anyway, have jealousy - and other - issues. Carry on. 👍🇺🇸

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Robert Eringer's avatar

Harvey: Your blood pressure appears to be running high. Possibly too much caffeine. Recommendation: a Xanax to calm your nerves.

To set you straight, assuming you’re not stuck in a curved position (I hope you don’t suffer spinal stenosis or I’d feel bad about using this metaphor): I watched Trump speak about dealing with Covid in real-time. Not sure you understood (maybe you were watching MSNBC). Trump did not push disinfectants as a remedy but merely pointed out the absurdities of the situation. The mainstream news media, suffering derangement (all the rage back then), twisted Trump’s words into an inaccurate poisonous narrative.

Harvey, you then descend into an incessant stream of profanity and name-calling. Sorry to point out something F. Scott Fitzgerald once said ( I think): Only those who cannot express themselves intelligently resort to low language.

Elevate yourself, Harvey, you can do better.

Polly : Don’t know why you think so highly of Putin. His energy is very dark and he will likely suffer the same fate as Libya’s Gaddafi Duck and Romania’s Ceausescu, both executed by those they purported to lead. (This is a Russian tradition and will likely turn out as yet another case of history repeating itself.)

Nancy, Nancy, Nancy Freeman: The rant was Cory’s (all 25 hours). But to answer your question: Nothing makes me think anyone cares what I write. Until, that is, you came along. Thank you for caring. As for truth and sanity: Truth exists only in the moment and thereafter becomes subjective i.e., subject to interpretation. As for sanity? I look to Mark Twain for an explanation: “In all matters of sanity our adversaries are insane.” That said, I do not look upon Americans with opinions different to my own as adversaries (or insane). I look at them as Americans who are entitled to their opinions and should freely express them in this forum and elsewhere. That is the beauty of our democracy.

As for “lies and disinformation”: Methinks, Nancy, that before casting a stone elsewhere, you should address what went on inside Joe Biden’s White House.

My best advice: Broaden your news sources. Enlightenment is possible, open your mind.

To LT: It’s probably not fair to blame or pick on anyone’s possible addictions. We’re all human with foibles, flaws and weaknesses. With a little encouragement, Nance may come around, please give her a chance, fat as it may be (and, again, if Nance is fat, I regret the metaphor).

But Harvey? Not so sure. He may need therapy.

To Earl, J. Livingston & DL Dawson: OMG—I was there! Summer of ‘63. Camp Curry, fire fall, bears feeding at the dump, saw it all—an American childhood I treasure.

Cate Wilkins: You’re the best, love you.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Robert, I don't think highly of Putin, so please don't frame my remarks about your weekly Putin bashing in that way. I am critical of the US interference in Ukraine, of the Biden family using it for their own gain, of NATO, the EU, of putting biolabs there. What I don't think highly of is the US continuing to spend money on a pointless war in Ukraine. As for Gaddafi, Hillary bragged about killing him - disgusting. He was killed because he threatened globalist banking, not because he was a terrible person. And as Gaddfi warned, his death meant millions flooding into Europe. Do you really think this has been an advance? I don't.

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Robert Eringer's avatar

Polly, thanks for clarifying. I agree with you. Much to be uncovered about Biden family corruption in Ukraine, and I am supportive of Trump's stance on Zelensky.

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Polly Frost's avatar

Well, I also love your column.

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Don Vogt's avatar

Perhaps Emmanuel Macron is continuously being "Hoist on His Own Petard"? Check it out.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

"Mad Vlad's War Dance!"

Just curious Bob.....is Vlad's dance any worse than your Felon's Double-Fisted-Masterbation-Freakout-Clown Show-Diptshit-Dance? It has been proven that there isn't a human on earth who can look at that asshole perform this FREAK Show and not be totally embarrassed. I'm talking about both MAGATS AND rational people alike.

The idiot is sundowning at such an exponential rate...yet his loving band of UNeducated traitors won't ever say a bad word about him. Only absolute, abject, frauds could ever believe his claim that "Trump has done everything right" <----my God what horse shit.

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J. Livingston's avatar

"Divide Ukraine into manageable pieces" get my vote. Just like the break-up of Yugoslavia and the forced marriage of the Czech Republic and Slovakia. Many of the hasty lines drawn at end of the Soviet Union created territorial mismatches.

It would have been much better to have carved out the Russian heritage portion of "Ukraine", as peacefully as did the Czechs and Slovaks. And not follow the long carnage model of the Yugoslavia break up. Too late for do-overs now. However, dividing Ukraine into manageable pieces needs to still be on the table.

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TheotokosAppreciator's avatar

Absolutely disgraceful, Ukraine was literally given the land under it's pre-2014 borders by the former Soviets, Crimea was literally given in 1954. Ukraine is under no obligation to give up it's rightful territory.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Of course! All rational human beings remember tons of words from Booker's brave journey through 25 hours of trying to get MAGATS to understand that they voted for a serial lying, rapist, racist, microphone fellating, felon and traitor.

But I'll tell you what I think, Bobby....I think you, no doubt, remember every word of the detestable, RACIST, piece of shit Strom Thurmond's 24 hour bigoted rant, right? Ya see...THAT's the kind of garbage racists love to listen to.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Ok…one more time because MAGATS are still writing to me claiming that what Biden did was just as bad as what Trump did concerning stolen documents. So pay attention you MAGAmentalMidgets so I don’t have to CONSTANTLY be your information source.

Pure and simple, the magnitude of lawlessness conducted by trump in his theft of HUNDREDS of classified and top secret documents is far greater than anything Biden did. And I don't say that as a political partisan person. First of all, Biden never showed the documents in his garage to foreigners, but trump did. In fact trump showed Iran WAR documents to a couple of average Joe Blows as he boasted what a MAN he was for being able to show these top secret documents to those withOUT any clearance. "Hey will ya send some cokes in here?"

Now it is far more believable that Biden did not know that his staff had packed up SOME classified documents accidentally than to believe trump "declassified them in his head" or that "trump was entitled to take the documents by the Presidential Records act that actually says the opposite of what trump claimed" or that "the FBI planted those documents". Crysake, trump had a new excuse every other week.

We all know that trump KNEW that he had taken these documents as he has admitted it. Now, as you recall, Biden called the FBI the moment he knew of the relatively few classified documents he had in his possession. Trump defied court orders and hid the documents and lied that he didn't have the documents as he transported them here and there. Trump also lied that the FBI were coming to assassinate him and his entire family when they came to take what rightfully belonged to the government. Nevermind the serial liar was not even in the state at the time the FBI came nor was his family anywhere near Mar A Lago. Also the FBI coordinated with trump's secret service when they ARRANGED a date and time they would come. Please tell me you don't believe this jerk when he claims the FBI came to assassinate his sorry ass!

Trump and his lawyers CLEARLY obstructed justice by not giving back all the documents WHEN he was asked for them on more than one occasion. He even defied a court order. His claim that "they are mine" is bullshit and something Biden never even dreamed of saying. Joe knew that the documents he had, regardless of how they came to be in his possession, were not his to keep and that they belonged in the National Archives.

Also trump didn't even care that the "tons" of boxes of documents that he AMAZINGLY stored by the dozens in his golden bathroom, where anybody using the shitter could just read like a magazine, were stored so haphazardly that some were even open and strewn about the floor. Also the dozens of boxes on the theatre stage...anybody could just take a look at them since donald had so many parties at his golden palace. Here's the thing...the biggest difference of all is that trump is a serial liar and Biden was mostly an honest man (we all know everybody lies now and then….but tens of thousands of times for donOLD!!).

I hope you MAGATS aren't getting your news from FOX....because that would explain why you think there is any comparison between these two men whatsoever. FOX lies so much they had to pay nearly a billion dollars for their sick, twisted lies about Dominion and about Biden stealing the election from the Orange ShitStain. Oh...and when SmartMatic takes their sorry asses to court, FOX will be paying over a billion dollars for their rotten defamation against that voting machine company. When you take Rooody Giuliani together with trump, those sluts owe MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of dollars to for their defamation and/or rape.

PS...the only double standard that exists in this country is the one that allows trump to disparage and threaten judges and witnesses and jury members and get away with it. How many times did the judge threaten to hold him in contempt, but never did anything?

(TEN times?). Etc

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Julia Gonzales's avatar

Robert,

You start out ranting about Cory Booker’s rant. Actually, it seems like that’s what a filibuster is a long, long rant. So it seems you have been filibustering at least once a week, or so. It might seem like nonsense to you, but Cory Booker came prepared. He brought 15 binders with 1,164 pages of prepared material. Filibuster material doesn’t have to make sense. People have read from “Green Eggs and Ham”, just to fill in time. Speaking of time, Congratulations to Cory Booker for breaking Strom Thurmond’s 24 hr filibuster racist rant to try to stop The Civil Rights Act.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for the Jeffrey Epstein files. They’ll have as much information as the JFK Files did. As for Pam Bondi, her title may be AG, but she is in fact trump‘s personal lawyer. He has her going after everyone that ever hurt his feelings.

I don’t remember if you even mention tariffs in your filibuster, it was so long. Are you aware that Russia was not on the tariff list? The reason given was because they were in the middle of peace negotiations. Why then was Ukraine on the tariff list? Aren’t they in the middle of peace negotiations, too?

The actual “Liberation Day” will be noon on trumps last day in office. Someone needs to start Articles of Impeachment.

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Notice to SB Currents readers: The "block" feature has been added back to this discussion forum - click the small grey dots on the right side of any post. Then choose to report or block any posters who you might find interfere with the flow of normal conversation.

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Some of you are telling me what a stupid fucking moron donOLD trump is. But wait...what about this great news exonerating the MAGAT puke??

CNN: It took all of a week for President Donald Trump to reverse course on his sweeping tariff plan (Yes...he actually lied to you again LOL: EdHB) During those seven days, however, the tariffs upset trade partners, sent world financial markets into a tailspin and prompted one automaker to lay off 900 (NINE HUNDRED) American workers. Even some of Trump’s billionaire supporters turned on him over the policy, including Bill Ackman, CEO of Pershing Square Capital Management, who said unless Trump changed tack, “we are heading for a self-induced, economic nuclear winter, and we should start hunkering down.” Although Trump insisted on his social media site that "MY POLICIES WILL NEVER CHANGE,” he ended up pausing the "reciprocal" tariffs on all nations — except China — for three months on Wednesday. The original 10% universal tariff on all imports coming into the US remains in effect. In response, the Dow climbed 7.87%, the S&P 500 rose 9.5% and the Nasdaq surged 12.2%.

And...the next day the DOW, the DAK, and the S&P were doing nothing but deep red again.

paren mine

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Harvey D Becker's avatar

Daily KOS: Trump’s now investigating people who said 2020 election wasn’t stolen!

“America is headed down a dark path.”

Jesus Christ....how can the MAGAT cult have one ounce of love for this sick, twisted, serial lying, America hating, democracy hating, piece of shit?

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