Excellent thoughts & question, however, one should know that illegals voting in our national, state, and local elections occurs regularly…these votes are often cast by officials within the voting apparatus on behave of illegals…let’s consider these follow questions as well:
WHAT IF THE BELOW COULD BE PROVEN?
1-Election + D party officials filled out many thousands of blank ballots?
2-Election + D party officials removed and destroyed 'legal' ballots?
3-Election + D party officials deliberately organized non-citizen voting?
4-Election + D party officials in [XX] locations across the US [under lock & key] stored many thousands of 'blank' ballots for purposes of 'altering the vote total'?
Who safeguards 'blank' ballots?
Who issues 'blank' ballots?
Who controls 'blank' ballots?
How many 'blank' ballots are generated vs. total county pop?
THE CONTROL AND ISSUANCE OF BLANK BALLOTS IS KEY.
Why did the same counties REFUSE to turn over voter registration information upon request to the Voter Fraud Commission after 2016 elections?
Security of blank ballots is important (measures in place include controlled printing and distribution, secure storage, reconciling blank ballots sent with ballots cast), but voter fraud occurs when cast ballots have been tampered with or when someone attempts to cast a ballot illegally.
For the What-ifs to be meaningful, there has to be some evidence that they may be occurring. When you say that “these votes are often cast by officials within the voting apparatus on behalf of illegals,” you've stated it as a fact. The whole system is designed with oversight from both parties and election officials over voter registration and ballot verification. While no system is foolproof, there is no evidence of fraud on any meaningful scale. In both 2016 and 2020 claims and concerns were investigated by multiple agencies - govt, law enforcement, and several Republican activist groups. Yet numerous courts, including ones with Republican-appointed judges, dismissed the legal challenges for lack of evidence.
Regarding your question about the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity (Voter Fraud Commission):
Several states and counties, both Democrat- and Republican-led, chose not to comply with the commission's request for voter registration information primarily because:
1. Privacy Concerns: Some officials and states argued that providing detailed voter data, which often includes personal information like addresses and party affiliation, would compromise the privacy of voters.
2. Legal Challenges: Some states contended that the commission's request for voter information conflicted with their state laws and regulations governing the release of such data would violate state law.
One illegal vote takes away my legal vote. Zero tolerance is the only standard. Every possible flaw that does not achieve zero tolerance must be remedied.
You conflate the standard rebuttal .....not enough widespread proof that any illegal votes would have mattered, in an election that was actually won by only tens of thousands of votes, mainly late at night in questionable electoral swing state precincts. We must do better than that.
Few courts even viewed the 2020 election "evidence", as most cases were dismissed for lack of standing or other process issues well before any findings based upon evidence.. There are plenty of spread sheets itemizing these various 2020 election challenges to discount anyone who repeats the hoary lie - no court found there was anything illegal in the 2020 election.
Now many jurisdictions in fact are finding there was blatant election fraud within their systems and are even over-turning elections. There are so many weak links in our current election processes and every single one of them must be shut down tightly. Anyone who has been poll worker can point them out, or watched them helplessly happen.
Why didn't I report them? Instinctively knowing they would not matter in this county. So I too am part of the problem, since I did not become part of a solution. Zero tolerance can be the only goal. Then there is an environment where reporting the small errors and slips and sloppy procedures can matter.
I forgot to mention: conducting voter fraud is probably THE MOST INEFFICIENT WAY (time, money, potential to be caught) to influence an election. Persuade voters, bus voters, buy votes, coerce votes maybe ... but trying to organize people - apparently all over the country - to cast fraudulent ballots or conduct fraudulent elections seems like a rough way to tip the scale.
Sending out those with vested interests in winning elections for certain political parties to legally ballot harvest in this state is a highly efficient way to "win" elections and to also tie them up for weeks in long counts while so many questionable ballots undertake review by county election staff.
We know the difference between "voter fraud" and "election fraud". You keep claiming this "voter fraud" investigation needs to be done "all over the country" when in fact the 2020 election turned on just a few precincts in electoral college swing states.
Election process fraud, ballot security, adjudication, voting machine malfunctions, etc was much more in evidence and that is where the standing issues arose. That is where significant ballots that could affect and election were most insecure. Not the stray voter who got caught voting twice.
Plus most of those "81 million votes" were harvested in CA and NY; not nationwide. Someone put in a huge amount of effort in that intentional ballot harvesting "gas-lighting" when it fact those volumes of extra ballots did not impact the electoral votes counts in either NY or CA. The energy is there because paychecks, perks and pensions depend on it.
100,000 mass mail ballots and no cheating…haha, I received 4 ballots in the mail for 2020 election…2 for daughters that moved and 1 for a nephew that once lived with us…they probably will thank me one day for voting for Trump…
PS, they have been rigging elections for decades…you only have the illusion that your vote counts…
Good time to review the consequences, intended or unintended, of every single "election reform" measure enacted in this state over the past few decades: from term limits, district elections, jungle primaries, same day registration, ballot harvesting, ersatz "covid" measures, to now universal vote by mail.
Any opposition to these measures was met with the claim - you want to deny people their right to vote. However a casual observation is every election advantage from these "election reform" measures has also accrued to one party only - the current super-majority party in this state. Our formerly bi-partisan state now seems well-entrenched into the hands of only one party today.
We need a thoughtful analysis of the past few decades of "election reform" in this state, since the rest of the nation continues to believe "term limits" is still the answer to government misfeasance. Our own experience has demonstrated just the opposite.
This article blends two unrelated issues to insinuates a problem with the fairness of elections which is an entirely unsubstantiated claim.
Early voting increases legitimate voter participation, which should be a goal in a healthy representative democracy.
Early voting is subject to the same safeguards as Election Day voting (which include voter registration and signature verification). Ballot drop boxes are managed by bipartisan election officials who must adhere to strict chain of custody and access procedures for ballots. On Election Day ballots are verified, opened and counted overseen by bipartisan observers with the vote count audited by bipartisan auditors.
While isolated instances of voter fraud (for both Presidential candidates) have been identified, numerous election integrity organizations and audits have found that voter fraud in the US is exceedingly rare, often less than 0.001% of total votes cast.
• The Trump Administration’s own Presidential Election Integrity Commission was disbanded for a number of legal reasons, but it found no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
• Recounts and audits conducted in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, found no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
• Investigations by the DOJ and state law enforcement agencies found no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
With regard to non-citizens voting in local elections, I don't have a strong opinion. But offering non-citizens a local ballot in no way compromises state and federal voter registration required to have a ballot for state or federal voting. Consider also that legal permanent residents and visa holders, often live for years in our community, pay taxes, and contribute to our economy. Is it an injustice to give them a voice in local education, safety, and infrastructure investment?
Early voting allows material ballot security issues and can no longer be tolerated. One illegal vote disenfranchise the legal vote. That is 100% unacceptable on any grounds. That is the only standard to apply.
Few votes are actually opened and processed on "election day". The long counts in California are now infamous, and disturbingly always end up in favor of only one party.
"wide spread voter fraud" is an intentional obfuscation in an election that turned on so few votes in just a few key electoral college swing states. There was no need for "wide spread voter fraud" when discrete election process fraud could turn an election as close as this 2020 election turned out to be.
These are very old and unsubtantiated partisan talking points intended to deflect from the real process weakness 2020 uncovered that have not be remedied today.
County clerk admitted the signature verification technology is only 50% accurate; requiring staff adjudication to go on for weeks post-election. How may volunteer observers realistically have time to review these now long-drawn out voter verification processes?
Is it an injustice to citizens to hand out votes to those who chose to not become citizens?
Our duties are few as American citizens - vote, pay taxes, jury duty and register for military services if one is a male. Beyond that we govern ourselves by elected representatives who pass legislation in our names, and who spend our mandated tax dollars in our names too.
The least we can ask of those who vote is to become sworn legal citizens, if they want to share the benefits of this unique experiment called the United States of America.
Excellent thoughts & question, however, one should know that illegals voting in our national, state, and local elections occurs regularly…these votes are often cast by officials within the voting apparatus on behave of illegals…let’s consider these follow questions as well:
WHAT IF THE BELOW COULD BE PROVEN?
1-Election + D party officials filled out many thousands of blank ballots?
2-Election + D party officials removed and destroyed 'legal' ballots?
3-Election + D party officials deliberately organized non-citizen voting?
4-Election + D party officials in [XX] locations across the US [under lock & key] stored many thousands of 'blank' ballots for purposes of 'altering the vote total'?
Who safeguards 'blank' ballots?
Who issues 'blank' ballots?
Who controls 'blank' ballots?
How many 'blank' ballots are generated vs. total county pop?
THE CONTROL AND ISSUANCE OF BLANK BALLOTS IS KEY.
Why did the same counties REFUSE to turn over voter registration information upon request to the Voter Fraud Commission after 2016 elections?
Enemy @ the Front Door...
Security of blank ballots is important (measures in place include controlled printing and distribution, secure storage, reconciling blank ballots sent with ballots cast), but voter fraud occurs when cast ballots have been tampered with or when someone attempts to cast a ballot illegally.
For the What-ifs to be meaningful, there has to be some evidence that they may be occurring. When you say that “these votes are often cast by officials within the voting apparatus on behalf of illegals,” you've stated it as a fact. The whole system is designed with oversight from both parties and election officials over voter registration and ballot verification. While no system is foolproof, there is no evidence of fraud on any meaningful scale. In both 2016 and 2020 claims and concerns were investigated by multiple agencies - govt, law enforcement, and several Republican activist groups. Yet numerous courts, including ones with Republican-appointed judges, dismissed the legal challenges for lack of evidence.
Regarding your question about the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity (Voter Fraud Commission):
Several states and counties, both Democrat- and Republican-led, chose not to comply with the commission's request for voter registration information primarily because:
1. Privacy Concerns: Some officials and states argued that providing detailed voter data, which often includes personal information like addresses and party affiliation, would compromise the privacy of voters.
2. Legal Challenges: Some states contended that the commission's request for voter information conflicted with their state laws and regulations governing the release of such data would violate state law.
One illegal vote takes away my legal vote. Zero tolerance is the only standard. Every possible flaw that does not achieve zero tolerance must be remedied.
You conflate the standard rebuttal .....not enough widespread proof that any illegal votes would have mattered, in an election that was actually won by only tens of thousands of votes, mainly late at night in questionable electoral swing state precincts. We must do better than that.
Few courts even viewed the 2020 election "evidence", as most cases were dismissed for lack of standing or other process issues well before any findings based upon evidence.. There are plenty of spread sheets itemizing these various 2020 election challenges to discount anyone who repeats the hoary lie - no court found there was anything illegal in the 2020 election.
Now many jurisdictions in fact are finding there was blatant election fraud within their systems and are even over-turning elections. There are so many weak links in our current election processes and every single one of them must be shut down tightly. Anyone who has been poll worker can point them out, or watched them helplessly happen.
Why didn't I report them? Instinctively knowing they would not matter in this county. So I too am part of the problem, since I did not become part of a solution. Zero tolerance can be the only goal. Then there is an environment where reporting the small errors and slips and sloppy procedures can matter.
I forgot to mention: conducting voter fraud is probably THE MOST INEFFICIENT WAY (time, money, potential to be caught) to influence an election. Persuade voters, bus voters, buy votes, coerce votes maybe ... but trying to organize people - apparently all over the country - to cast fraudulent ballots or conduct fraudulent elections seems like a rough way to tip the scale.
OK I'll shut-up now. Promise.
Sending out those with vested interests in winning elections for certain political parties to legally ballot harvest in this state is a highly efficient way to "win" elections and to also tie them up for weeks in long counts while so many questionable ballots undertake review by county election staff.
We know the difference between "voter fraud" and "election fraud". You keep claiming this "voter fraud" investigation needs to be done "all over the country" when in fact the 2020 election turned on just a few precincts in electoral college swing states.
Election process fraud, ballot security, adjudication, voting machine malfunctions, etc was much more in evidence and that is where the standing issues arose. That is where significant ballots that could affect and election were most insecure. Not the stray voter who got caught voting twice.
Plus most of those "81 million votes" were harvested in CA and NY; not nationwide. Someone put in a huge amount of effort in that intentional ballot harvesting "gas-lighting" when it fact those volumes of extra ballots did not impact the electoral votes counts in either NY or CA. The energy is there because paychecks, perks and pensions depend on it.
Zero tolerance. Nothing else is acceptable.
100,000 mass mail ballots and no cheating…haha, I received 4 ballots in the mail for 2020 election…2 for daughters that moved and 1 for a nephew that once lived with us…they probably will thank me one day for voting for Trump…
PS, they have been rigging elections for decades…you only have the illusion that your vote counts…
Good time to review the consequences, intended or unintended, of every single "election reform" measure enacted in this state over the past few decades: from term limits, district elections, jungle primaries, same day registration, ballot harvesting, ersatz "covid" measures, to now universal vote by mail.
Any opposition to these measures was met with the claim - you want to deny people their right to vote. However a casual observation is every election advantage from these "election reform" measures has also accrued to one party only - the current super-majority party in this state. Our formerly bi-partisan state now seems well-entrenched into the hands of only one party today.
We need a thoughtful analysis of the past few decades of "election reform" in this state, since the rest of the nation continues to believe "term limits" is still the answer to government misfeasance. Our own experience has demonstrated just the opposite.
This article blends two unrelated issues to insinuates a problem with the fairness of elections which is an entirely unsubstantiated claim.
Early voting increases legitimate voter participation, which should be a goal in a healthy representative democracy.
Early voting is subject to the same safeguards as Election Day voting (which include voter registration and signature verification). Ballot drop boxes are managed by bipartisan election officials who must adhere to strict chain of custody and access procedures for ballots. On Election Day ballots are verified, opened and counted overseen by bipartisan observers with the vote count audited by bipartisan auditors.
While isolated instances of voter fraud (for both Presidential candidates) have been identified, numerous election integrity organizations and audits have found that voter fraud in the US is exceedingly rare, often less than 0.001% of total votes cast.
• The Trump Administration’s own Presidential Election Integrity Commission was disbanded for a number of legal reasons, but it found no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
• Recounts and audits conducted in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, found no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
• Investigations by the DOJ and state law enforcement agencies found no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
With regard to non-citizens voting in local elections, I don't have a strong opinion. But offering non-citizens a local ballot in no way compromises state and federal voter registration required to have a ballot for state or federal voting. Consider also that legal permanent residents and visa holders, often live for years in our community, pay taxes, and contribute to our economy. Is it an injustice to give them a voice in local education, safety, and infrastructure investment?
Early voting allows material ballot security issues and can no longer be tolerated. One illegal vote disenfranchise the legal vote. That is 100% unacceptable on any grounds. That is the only standard to apply.
Few votes are actually opened and processed on "election day". The long counts in California are now infamous, and disturbingly always end up in favor of only one party.
"wide spread voter fraud" is an intentional obfuscation in an election that turned on so few votes in just a few key electoral college swing states. There was no need for "wide spread voter fraud" when discrete election process fraud could turn an election as close as this 2020 election turned out to be.
These are very old and unsubtantiated partisan talking points intended to deflect from the real process weakness 2020 uncovered that have not be remedied today.
County clerk admitted the signature verification technology is only 50% accurate; requiring staff adjudication to go on for weeks post-election. How may volunteer observers realistically have time to review these now long-drawn out voter verification processes?
Is it an injustice to citizens to hand out votes to those who chose to not become citizens?
Our duties are few as American citizens - vote, pay taxes, jury duty and register for military services if one is a male. Beyond that we govern ourselves by elected representatives who pass legislation in our names, and who spend our mandated tax dollars in our names too.
The least we can ask of those who vote is to become sworn legal citizens, if they want to share the benefits of this unique experiment called the United States of America.