Between there, Macys, 5 Points, Glenn Annie, behind the Natural History Museum they are building hundreds of tiny apartments .
Little to no parking.
People who live here are going to work where? They will have cars and they will park in the surrounding areas.
We are in a D2 drought, I’m sure glad we increased our water reservoirs. Oh wait, that is just wishful thinking that the government did as they promised and were pro active about their shoving more people into SB.
No homeownership either, renters.
So who is going to live in these tiny apartments? Couples? Families? Children? Impact on schools? Taxes for the school budget?
What we do know is that our government does not think of the citizens of SB and they are not very above board. Look at the AMR contract they purposefully tried to get out of costing us tax payers millions or the oil spill on land they control and tried to hide while going after oil companies for doing the same thing.
Ask Salud Carbajal! "Protesting" to keep illegals on our tax dollars. Naysayers need not respond. Because YES, IT'S OUR TAX DOLLARS. This is NOT NEW YORK CITY!@
We can thank our own present and past elected state representatives for "The Builders Remedy". Their one task when we send them to Sacramento - is to write legislation in our names.
So be sure to include the names Das Williams, Hannah-Beth Jackson, Monique Limon and Gregg Hart specifically, in any complaints about what the "state" is or has been doing to our community.
Copping-out and voting only "present" when these locally controversial issues come before these locally elected Sacramento representatives is intentionally negligent. None of them deserve their automatic re-election, encouraged by local partisan forces who support this continued non-representation of our local interests as long as their own pockets get lined.
Regarding the ABR for the most part they are in the pocket of development and don't care about the community. (the check is in the mail) e.g. A former member of the ABR while on the board applied for a lot development on the 1100 block of Olive. Every property surrounding his lot objected to the height and use. He justed Winked and said a) the front house would be his office yet within 3 months he rented it and never used it for an office. b) when it came to the height issue he once again Winked and built it over the promised and city height limit at that time. c) This Winker became very angry when the new development rules allowed the property directly next to him on the ocean side was given a permit. So much for having friends in high places, right Winker?
Remember people elections have consequences. The terrible and Brown Act violated Westside Capital "Improvement?" project is part of the State Street Closing. The Council ignored the movers and shakers meeting last month that DEMANDED State St. be reopened. With the amount of money they are wasting they could do a 4 year test of what works and promotes business in downtown.... Open the 3 blocks of State from Victoria to Carrillo. This narrow minded Council with stacked committees does not want an objective comparison of their current failure with what works. Quote M. Harmon I want to see State St. torn up with grass planted. The same grass she has stated should not be in residential neighborhoods.
Anyone notice that in the past 3 months Milpas is looking like a 3rd world nation with food vendors competing directly with Mexican/Hispanic restaurants, often less than 50 feet from them? How about the illegal vendor at the entrance to La Cumbre Plaza that brazenly unloads and parks their yellow truck! Call the cops - unless it is of eminent public safety we will not respond.
This is one party rule that doesn't care.
Remember people elections have consequences and you voted for them.
Valid points, and we in essence voted in thousands of studio apartments, all looking like Cottage Hospital, oh that’s right, they started all this by converting a perfectly good hospital into their own employee housing. This influx of rental workforce and low income housing, further tips the scale of renter vs. owner political influence, which is already a 60-40 proposition. So, in the future we can count on all ballot measures passing affecting our property taxes. The street corner Taco stands are just a sign of things to come. Welcome to little Jalisco folks.
The topographical, infrastructure and water limitations of Santa Barbara have already been exceeded. The politically ambitious members of City Council are weak refusing to push back on Sacramento like other SoCal coastal communities because for most party politics is the best paid, easiest job they can get. SBPD stands down rather than enforce laws enabling the town’s ruination. Council can fire the Chief and get a strong leader who will enforce.
Milpas has become Tijuana Norte saving us the cost of travel to Mexico. No surprise the recent stabbing on 800 block Cacique St (the 101 underpass) where police allow homeless to camp when the shelters are right across Milpas Street. Building more housing units on the Eastside in the already car and work truck dense area puts in danger the safety of every existing resident up to Mountain Drive.
Ownership housing is needed, not more rentals. Location and parking matter. What’s the status of the Tri-County Produce project by the railroad tracks, ocean, and 101?
With 9% of local housing vacant and the erosion of private property rights, isn’t it time to look big picture, and tell Sacramento ENOUGH!
So let me understand this, we can’t find one of our elected officials but is still collecting a huge salary? That sounds familiar, but in Joe Biden’s case we could see him, but no one was home!
As for the AMR fiasco, I’m still not understanding who gave permission to go forward with the multimillion dollar purchase order? Did the BOS direct the Fire Chief or did he act on his own? Why is there little transparency on this transaction?
I long considered it was a public duty to volunteer as an election poll worker. Raised in a family where voting was a sacred ritual, and our family home garage was turned into an annual polling place for the neighborhood. However, my last "covid election" experience being a County of Santa Barbara poll worker was so sloppy, so negligent, with balloting now having becoming so complicated that I chose to no longer waste my time.
One more blow struck against community volunteerism inflicted by the over-paid, unionized government election office staffers, who didn't even know what they were doing when we needed technical help. The worst offense being the poll worker training staffer blowing off the entire session, by not even showing up. Indeed, where is and where was Joe Holland? This was all happening in his name.
Joseph Holland is also missing from Transparent California - no new entry since 2021.
Two ways to look at Transparent Califonia - one is the salary listing, which in fact is the take-home pay since benefits and all pension contributions are not included in this amount.
The other way is to look at the total cost to taxpayers for each government employee. That is the real number that matters because taxpayers are on the line for this full amount, which does include the benefits and pension contributions.
Joe Holland was costing taxpayers $347,993 ..... in 2021. Assume this is significantly higher for 2024.
I saw Joe holland appear last year via zoom for our closed session political theater orchestrated by chair Steve Lavagnino, laura capps, Das Williams Joan Hartman, Bob Nelson. They can run, but they cant hide! WE will find them! "Pam Bondi"
Ms.Donovan: your questions and comments are valid and to the point regarding some badly run aspects of the local Santa Barbara government. Thank you for your article.. I wish I knew what effect a local citizen could make, and how to.
The Grand Jury is a waste of time. Been there, done that. There’s too much collusion. Acknowledge this is a single party controlled area run by puppets in lockstep. One goal is to keep a clean image to keep property values high for revenues to pay outrageous salaries to elite managers from the incestuous pool of applicants who are hired.
Why do you feel that there needs to be ID shown to vote? What are you trying to alleviate that the ID will prevent? HINT: If you say fraud, you are a fool. So many studies have shown that there is no instance of any election being swayed by a person voting fraudulently.
Again, what are you trying to say that ID will solve?
In a system, such as voting, where tracing how particular person votes is impossible, it is not possible to know if any election was "swayed by a person voting fraudulently." It is also impossible to show that any election was NOT so "swayed."
The standard should be reducing the potential for fraud, which includes requiring IDs for voting.
You come across as not being knowledgeable about how our voting system works. I am not sure if you are doing this because you have an agenda you are trying to pursue or that you are lacking in knowledge on how it works.
Knowing how someone voted is different than knowing if someone voted. Your whole basis is that I need to know how you voted to know that you voted. That is a dangerous step to take in our country.
The standard is to reduce fraud. Fraud is such a tiny insignificant issue. That article, those studies prove that.
An ID imposes a burden on the voter. It creates a class system, where those who have ID's can vote and those who do not, can't. That is unconstitutional.
Imagine being 85 years old, have not driven in 20 years, why do you need an ID? You have proven that you are a CITIZEN when you registered to vote the first time, 65 years earlier. Your ballot was mailed to YOU, where you reside. You voted. Are you saying that another resident at the location grabbed it and voted for someone? Ok. That is possible. Will that impact an election? No. How many instances of this does this have to happen to impact an election? Now, I am going to step into the nemesis of conservatives: Math. How many votes across how many states would have changed the election last November? About 120k votes across a bunch of states. How many of those 85 year old, no id voters are there in those states? I do not know an exact number, but if I had to GUESS, it would probably be ~700k across the states. My basis for this is that Michigan has 1.365mm that voted that are over 65. I am trying to extract out those that do not have an ID :)
Now for easier math, let's make that 1mm voters, not 700k. To sway the election I would need to have 561k go to the side that 'lost' and 459k to the side that 'won.' See, that right there is the problem with how conservatives do not do math. They can not fathom that cheating can occur on both sides. They tend to believe that only one side cheats. But, let me play with that concept, that only ONE side cheated. To change the election, I need 120k people to do this. They need to STEAL a ballot and vote as someone they are not. If I were to do this, how could I do it? I can't steal 120k ballots. How many can I possibly steal without being caught? Is it 10? Is it 20? Is it 5? Let's make it better for YOU, let me make it 20. Now, you need 6000 people like me to steal 20 ballots, fill them out the same way, assuming NO ONE does the same for the other side, and submit them. How the hell can you get 6000 people coordinated to do this? Are there 6000 retirement/medical facilities that you could steal these from in those states that have 20 people who would not notice their ballot is gone? Remember, this has to be QUIET. The media would love this story.
Do you now really think that fraud occurs at the voter's level that would sway an election?
As soon as you start making excuses for not having an ID, everything else you say is nonsensical. I did two things on election day last year. I went in for routine physical blood work (had to show ID), and then voted in person at the election site (had to just say I was Bob and I live there). To think it's possible for a person to fraud their own wellness blood work, but not an election ballot, is just nonsense. Everything in life requires a form of ID. Make it easier for 85-year-olds to update their ID before removing the requirement for no one to need it - that's a sensical solution.
You also miss another significant point. Let's assume you are correct and the fraud is as insignificant as you say. I struggle with that personally, seeing how there were elections in the state that came down to tiny percentage differences, but let's play along. The perception that the voting system has a lack of integrity is a larger problem than if it actually does. It's causing this conversation, protests, national news media coverage, political time spent debating, etc... I have an idea to remove all that! How about just showing your ID?
EU quickly went back to in person voting, after learning how easily electronic voting could be corrupted. A good standard to bring back home to the birthplace of our exceptional experiment being a voter-driven Republic
Bob, read. It is that simple. I can not convince you to believe what you read, but if there are hundreds of studies, with people who have agendas of proving and not proving their is fraud that impacts the election and they come up with the same result, the issue is not with them, the system, the issue is with you and believing things.
Let me play the game with you on why this is an issue. Your solution, make it easier for an 85 year old to get ID. Have you seen what happens when things like that occur? You actually believe that people will make that happen? ROFL! Glad I was not drinking something when I read what you wrote.
How many states have shuttered DMVs? How many states have shuttered DMVs in areas where there may be people who vote a certain way live there? Alabama did this and were sued into oblivion.
The perception that the voting system lacks integrity is a media blown up situation. And guess what, it rears its head EVERY single time a conservative loses. Notice that somehow, the 'democrats' were smart in 2020, but idiots in 2016 and 2024. HUH? That makes no @#$% sense.
There is a group of people, the same that majority believe in a sky daddy, will believe anything. They lack skepticism and the ability to think critically and will always buy into a conspiracy.
Now, let me get back to YOUR, "Just show the id." How do I do that with a mail in ballot? Now before you go off and state that there should not be mail in ballots, congrats, you are acting as a monarch, because each state gets to determine how the voting is done. CO has 100% mail in ballots. But hey, let's raise taxes to pay for all the machines and people to handle the elections. Oh wait, wut, you don't want taxes to go up, yet still want this to occur. Huh?
But you still have not shown how showing and ID stops fraud. HINT: You can get fraudulent IDs. So showing the ID changes NOTHING. It just creates an unnecessary burden on the voter. It acts as a form of suppression instead of inclusion.
And . . . seriously, stop with the business requirements and thinking they are the same as government requirements. Businesses have a lot of benefits that the government does not. Businesses can reject people! They can cherry pick who they want to work with. The government has to look at everyone.
Again, you hurt your argument by the partisanship. We have voter fraud. There is fraud in everything in life. Instead of solutions to reduce the fraud or make it more difficult to commit, you and others in the minority keep arguing that it's acceptable fraud. This is a majority voter issue to reduce fraud, and it's bipartisan. Here you go:
DB: Why are you so interested in leaky elections - both voting and election processing, David? Sorry, but zero tolerance for error is the only standard for a country 100% set up to be in the hands of legal voters and no one else.
Zero tolerance is a myth. NOTHING will ever be perfect. Your implication is the same as the other guy, fraud is changing the election. Even the most CONSERVATIVE group has stated that in 20 years they found 1500 instances and it did NOT impact the election at all.
Your goal is a fraud free election. Shouldn't the goal be an election that is accurate in showing who won or lost?
False claim David - merely accurate vote counting is but one part of any election; but never the only goal. Auditing the actual ballots is of co-equal value. You seem to have a clear investment in continued fraudulent election processes. We know there is a lot of public employee interest in maintaining this faulty status quo.
David, I assume you will not be interested in watching this short Victor Davis Hansen commentary, but others will appreciate the balance and questions Hanson brings to this topic.
VDH: What was the point of open borders and what has been and will be their impacts on our elections:
NB: Hanson does not discuss the current known impact of population based "rotten boroughs" in California under the CVRA, but we all need to start talking about this too.
Seriously flawed argument that fraudulent voting “did not impact the election at all.” It’s almost as outrageous as ABC “Journalist” Martha Raddatz making the equally stupid argument “only a handful of apartments complexes were taken over by Venezuelan gangs.” What part of this do you not understand?
DB: A single fraudulent vote cancels another voter's precious vote. That is 100% unacceptable. You err claiming no fraud was ever uncovered and you failed to distinguish between voter fraud and election process fraud. You are not staying current on this topic. Why?
Start with zero tolerance for any error since that vote canceled by fraud may be my vote or your vote. Then carve our bullet proof exceptions. Voter ID is a no-brainer.
Are you capable of reading the linked article and then following the studies?
And, again, as friggin proof that conservatives failed math, Let me try this simply:
Two choices: Turd Sandwich and Giant Douche.
You voted for Turd Sandwich.
Now, I stole a ballot and voted.
If the person who was going to use it was going to vote for Giant Douche and I voted for Giant Douche, nothing changed.
If the person who was going to use it was going to vote for Giant Douche and I voted for Turd Sandwich, I moved the vote.
Now, there were 1mm voters. Turd Sandwich got 640k votes. Giant Douche got 360k votes.
Did I change the election by stealing the ballot and voting for Turd Sandwich?
Did I change the election by stealing the ballot and voting for Giant Douche?
What was the impact of my 'fraudulent' vote?
The answer to the last 3 questions is 'No/Nothing.'
If you want to talk election process fraud, lets do it. Show me the studies showing that there have been election process fraud that has changed the outcome.
Why do you think that Trump wants hand counted ballots?
Again, I stand by the statment though, are you capable of reading the article with the linked studies? Your responses indicate that you are not even looking at the study done by the Heritage Foundation.
I have to say, I see a lot of name calling and verbal bullying on here towards users who make non-MAGA supporting comments. So to say it isn’t tolerated or that’s not a “tactic” used on this forum isn’t quite true.
And thank you David for your fact-based explanations. I haven’t had a chance to read all your linked articles, but will aspire to.
HaHaHaHA David! Studies conclude what researcher sets out to find. Let me introduce you to 100+ locals who are not citizens and vote! Ballots come in the mail with their name on it so of course, the ballot is cast. I went public at a Council meeting.
You find me the DEM politician who disagrees with: If a ballot is mailed to you, is it ok to vote it even if not a citizen? Of course it is!
CA never enforces federal US Constitution. We are a sanctuary state.
You come across as not knowing how the voting system works.
Are there ballots sent to people who are not US citizens? YES! But here is the hard part for you to do . . . continue reading past the headline. There are a very small handful of cities that allow non-citizens to vote. BUT here is the part that you are ignoring. They do not get a ballot with STATE OR FEDERAL elections on it. Their ballot ONLY allows them to vote in that city regarding that cities issues on the ballot.
Wrote it before, Tiffany Henyard, Dalton Township. She appointed herself as top thug overseeing "Her" town where the police and ALL the tax dollars were for her taking. No longer back room deals. With the advent of Dopey Joe, our nation is a comedy of tears, fears, rapes, murders, fentanyl, bankrupt businesses, towering apartment multi-unit construction over crowding our peaceful streets, and well paid county officials. But alas, that's someone else's problem. I don't have time to worry about all that!
The village idiots have taken over! It's time for the GOOD people of Santa Barbara to also protest this continuation of tyranny against citizens and wrongful allocation of OUR tax dollars. The nation voted these theives and ne're-do-well idiots out of DC. Now we must do the same in all of Santa Barbara County. Such a waste of time to cause honest, hard-working kind people into the streets to protest for our freedoms. What has happened to the human race?
Apropos of nothing, but seeing how these hallowed columns of the S.B. Current are oftentimes gushing in its praise of Mr. Musk, I figured y'all might be interested in some testimony that took place in the House of Representatives a few days ago; you know, just in case some of you are on the fence about the motivation behind his sudden interest in politics. Enjoy. https://youtu.be/g8f4UNLSwTo?si=ey5Y7EhxnCzVxM1K
Even more interesting RJ, is the sudden vilification of Musk by the local uber-libs who previously flaunted their Teslas and enjoyed their global internet connections via Vandenberg satellite launches. We live in interesting times.
Now make your best case why sustaining continued government waste, fraud, abuse and inefficiencies deserves "hallowed status".
"The Trump Tariff Tax is the largest peacetime tax hike in U.S. history," posted by none other than former V.P. Mike Pence. Mike Pence! I guess running from a mob of frothing-at-the-muzzle supporters trying to hang you is what it takes to finally see just what a fraudulent, abusive, grifter Trump is.
"Get your DJT Bibles, get your meme coins, get your golden sneakers, get yer made-in-Gina "Trump was right about everything" caps, while supplies last!"
Just take a calming breath and accept it: you've been duped.
RJ: The only con was demanding taxpayers fund four years of Biden open borders, which continues today. Revenue raising is not a con - when willing buyers meet willing sellers.
Bonnie, I don’t know where Joe Holland is but I can tell you where trump was a couple of days ago. He was at a golfing event to receive a golfing award for the championship he won, third year in a row, at his private golf course. Who do you think is gonna tell him he lost!
I don’t know how far back this tradition or duty goes back, but when military men or women die in the service of our country and their bodies are flown back to America, their flag draped caskets are met by the president and a small entourage to honor them. It’s rarely televised. When the four service men who have been lost in Lithuania were found, their bodies were flown back. Who was there to meet them? It sure wasn’t the President of the United States. The commander-in-chief. He was busy with more important matters like receiving his golfing award. His narcissistic, callous ways have not changed.
As to the 90 units on Milpas.
Between there, Macys, 5 Points, Glenn Annie, behind the Natural History Museum they are building hundreds of tiny apartments .
Little to no parking.
People who live here are going to work where? They will have cars and they will park in the surrounding areas.
We are in a D2 drought, I’m sure glad we increased our water reservoirs. Oh wait, that is just wishful thinking that the government did as they promised and were pro active about their shoving more people into SB.
No homeownership either, renters.
So who is going to live in these tiny apartments? Couples? Families? Children? Impact on schools? Taxes for the school budget?
What we do know is that our government does not think of the citizens of SB and they are not very above board. Look at the AMR contract they purposefully tried to get out of costing us tax payers millions or the oil spill on land they control and tried to hide while going after oil companies for doing the same thing.
Incompetence?
Ask Salud Carbajal! "Protesting" to keep illegals on our tax dollars. Naysayers need not respond. Because YES, IT'S OUR TAX DOLLARS. This is NOT NEW YORK CITY!@
We can thank our own present and past elected state representatives for "The Builders Remedy". Their one task when we send them to Sacramento - is to write legislation in our names.
So be sure to include the names Das Williams, Hannah-Beth Jackson, Monique Limon and Gregg Hart specifically, in any complaints about what the "state" is or has been doing to our community.
Copping-out and voting only "present" when these locally controversial issues come before these locally elected Sacramento representatives is intentionally negligent. None of them deserve their automatic re-election, encouraged by local partisan forces who support this continued non-representation of our local interests as long as their own pockets get lined.
Regarding the ABR for the most part they are in the pocket of development and don't care about the community. (the check is in the mail) e.g. A former member of the ABR while on the board applied for a lot development on the 1100 block of Olive. Every property surrounding his lot objected to the height and use. He justed Winked and said a) the front house would be his office yet within 3 months he rented it and never used it for an office. b) when it came to the height issue he once again Winked and built it over the promised and city height limit at that time. c) This Winker became very angry when the new development rules allowed the property directly next to him on the ocean side was given a permit. So much for having friends in high places, right Winker?
Remember people elections have consequences. The terrible and Brown Act violated Westside Capital "Improvement?" project is part of the State Street Closing. The Council ignored the movers and shakers meeting last month that DEMANDED State St. be reopened. With the amount of money they are wasting they could do a 4 year test of what works and promotes business in downtown.... Open the 3 blocks of State from Victoria to Carrillo. This narrow minded Council with stacked committees does not want an objective comparison of their current failure with what works. Quote M. Harmon I want to see State St. torn up with grass planted. The same grass she has stated should not be in residential neighborhoods.
Anyone notice that in the past 3 months Milpas is looking like a 3rd world nation with food vendors competing directly with Mexican/Hispanic restaurants, often less than 50 feet from them? How about the illegal vendor at the entrance to La Cumbre Plaza that brazenly unloads and parks their yellow truck! Call the cops - unless it is of eminent public safety we will not respond.
This is one party rule that doesn't care.
Remember people elections have consequences and you voted for them.
Valid points, and we in essence voted in thousands of studio apartments, all looking like Cottage Hospital, oh that’s right, they started all this by converting a perfectly good hospital into their own employee housing. This influx of rental workforce and low income housing, further tips the scale of renter vs. owner political influence, which is already a 60-40 proposition. So, in the future we can count on all ballot measures passing affecting our property taxes. The street corner Taco stands are just a sign of things to come. Welcome to little Jalisco folks.
The topographical, infrastructure and water limitations of Santa Barbara have already been exceeded. The politically ambitious members of City Council are weak refusing to push back on Sacramento like other SoCal coastal communities because for most party politics is the best paid, easiest job they can get. SBPD stands down rather than enforce laws enabling the town’s ruination. Council can fire the Chief and get a strong leader who will enforce.
Milpas has become Tijuana Norte saving us the cost of travel to Mexico. No surprise the recent stabbing on 800 block Cacique St (the 101 underpass) where police allow homeless to camp when the shelters are right across Milpas Street. Building more housing units on the Eastside in the already car and work truck dense area puts in danger the safety of every existing resident up to Mountain Drive.
Ownership housing is needed, not more rentals. Location and parking matter. What’s the status of the Tri-County Produce project by the railroad tracks, ocean, and 101?
With 9% of local housing vacant and the erosion of private property rights, isn’t it time to look big picture, and tell Sacramento ENOUGH!
So let me understand this, we can’t find one of our elected officials but is still collecting a huge salary? That sounds familiar, but in Joe Biden’s case we could see him, but no one was home!
As for the AMR fiasco, I’m still not understanding who gave permission to go forward with the multimillion dollar purchase order? Did the BOS direct the Fire Chief or did he act on his own? Why is there little transparency on this transaction?
I long considered it was a public duty to volunteer as an election poll worker. Raised in a family where voting was a sacred ritual, and our family home garage was turned into an annual polling place for the neighborhood. However, my last "covid election" experience being a County of Santa Barbara poll worker was so sloppy, so negligent, with balloting now having becoming so complicated that I chose to no longer waste my time.
One more blow struck against community volunteerism inflicted by the over-paid, unionized government election office staffers, who didn't even know what they were doing when we needed technical help. The worst offense being the poll worker training staffer blowing off the entire session, by not even showing up. Indeed, where is and where was Joe Holland? This was all happening in his name.
Maybe because Holland was nowhere to be found! Such a farce!
Joseph Holland is also missing from Transparent California - no new entry since 2021.
Two ways to look at Transparent Califonia - one is the salary listing, which in fact is the take-home pay since benefits and all pension contributions are not included in this amount.
The other way is to look at the total cost to taxpayers for each government employee. That is the real number that matters because taxpayers are on the line for this full amount, which does include the benefits and pension contributions.
Joe Holland was costing taxpayers $347,993 ..... in 2021. Assume this is significantly higher for 2024.
Joseph Holland
Dept/Corp Ldr-Elected (2021)
Regular pay: $221,806.48
Overtime pay: $0.00
Other pay: $5,824.00
Total pay: $227,630.48
Benefits: $120,362.92
Total pay & benefits: $347,993.40
I saw Joe holland appear last year via zoom for our closed session political theater orchestrated by chair Steve Lavagnino, laura capps, Das Williams Joan Hartman, Bob Nelson. They can run, but they cant hide! WE will find them! "Pam Bondi"
Ms.Donovan: your questions and comments are valid and to the point regarding some badly run aspects of the local Santa Barbara government. Thank you for your article.. I wish I knew what effect a local citizen could make, and how to.
You can go to the Grand Jury!
When I receive my PRAR back, I will post it for everyone to see.
https://sbcgj.org/
The Grand Jury is a waste of time. Been there, done that. There’s too much collusion. Acknowledge this is a single party controlled area run by puppets in lockstep. One goal is to keep a clean image to keep property values high for revenues to pay outrageous salaries to elite managers from the incestuous pool of applicants who are hired.
Organize! The hostile take down of our nation is at stake.
Does this sound like let's let everyone work from home sipping an adult beverage?
Does this sound like let's take tax dollars and pretend we're at work?
Does this sound like government at a one party system?
He’s probably at Harry’s! Great martial!
IDs are being required for more than just Fed Ex.
They are tracking people. Why?
But presenting ID to vote is racist? Inequitable?
NEVER let the constitution get in YOUR way.
Why do you feel that there needs to be ID shown to vote? What are you trying to alleviate that the ID will prevent? HINT: If you say fraud, you are a fool. So many studies have shown that there is no instance of any election being swayed by a person voting fraudulently.
Again, what are you trying to say that ID will solve?
In a system, such as voting, where tracing how particular person votes is impossible, it is not possible to know if any election was "swayed by a person voting fraudulently." It is also impossible to show that any election was NOT so "swayed."
The standard should be reducing the potential for fraud, which includes requiring IDs for voting.
You come across as not being knowledgeable about how our voting system works. I am not sure if you are doing this because you have an agenda you are trying to pursue or that you are lacking in knowledge on how it works.
Knowing how someone voted is different than knowing if someone voted. Your whole basis is that I need to know how you voted to know that you voted. That is a dangerous step to take in our country.
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_interest/election_law/american-democracy/our-work/speaker-discussion-guides/understanding-american-elections-why-they-are-trustworthy/ That might guide you down the path of learning about fraud.
The standard is to reduce fraud. Fraud is such a tiny insignificant issue. That article, those studies prove that.
An ID imposes a burden on the voter. It creates a class system, where those who have ID's can vote and those who do not, can't. That is unconstitutional.
Imagine being 85 years old, have not driven in 20 years, why do you need an ID? You have proven that you are a CITIZEN when you registered to vote the first time, 65 years earlier. Your ballot was mailed to YOU, where you reside. You voted. Are you saying that another resident at the location grabbed it and voted for someone? Ok. That is possible. Will that impact an election? No. How many instances of this does this have to happen to impact an election? Now, I am going to step into the nemesis of conservatives: Math. How many votes across how many states would have changed the election last November? About 120k votes across a bunch of states. How many of those 85 year old, no id voters are there in those states? I do not know an exact number, but if I had to GUESS, it would probably be ~700k across the states. My basis for this is that Michigan has 1.365mm that voted that are over 65. I am trying to extract out those that do not have an ID :)
Now for easier math, let's make that 1mm voters, not 700k. To sway the election I would need to have 561k go to the side that 'lost' and 459k to the side that 'won.' See, that right there is the problem with how conservatives do not do math. They can not fathom that cheating can occur on both sides. They tend to believe that only one side cheats. But, let me play with that concept, that only ONE side cheated. To change the election, I need 120k people to do this. They need to STEAL a ballot and vote as someone they are not. If I were to do this, how could I do it? I can't steal 120k ballots. How many can I possibly steal without being caught? Is it 10? Is it 20? Is it 5? Let's make it better for YOU, let me make it 20. Now, you need 6000 people like me to steal 20 ballots, fill them out the same way, assuming NO ONE does the same for the other side, and submit them. How the hell can you get 6000 people coordinated to do this? Are there 6000 retirement/medical facilities that you could steal these from in those states that have 20 people who would not notice their ballot is gone? Remember, this has to be QUIET. The media would love this story.
Do you now really think that fraud occurs at the voter's level that would sway an election?
As soon as you start making excuses for not having an ID, everything else you say is nonsensical. I did two things on election day last year. I went in for routine physical blood work (had to show ID), and then voted in person at the election site (had to just say I was Bob and I live there). To think it's possible for a person to fraud their own wellness blood work, but not an election ballot, is just nonsense. Everything in life requires a form of ID. Make it easier for 85-year-olds to update their ID before removing the requirement for no one to need it - that's a sensical solution.
You also miss another significant point. Let's assume you are correct and the fraud is as insignificant as you say. I struggle with that personally, seeing how there were elections in the state that came down to tiny percentage differences, but let's play along. The perception that the voting system has a lack of integrity is a larger problem than if it actually does. It's causing this conversation, protests, national news media coverage, political time spent debating, etc... I have an idea to remove all that! How about just showing your ID?
EU quickly went back to in person voting, after learning how easily electronic voting could be corrupted. A good standard to bring back home to the birthplace of our exceptional experiment being a voter-driven Republic
Bob, read. It is that simple. I can not convince you to believe what you read, but if there are hundreds of studies, with people who have agendas of proving and not proving their is fraud that impacts the election and they come up with the same result, the issue is not with them, the system, the issue is with you and believing things.
Let me play the game with you on why this is an issue. Your solution, make it easier for an 85 year old to get ID. Have you seen what happens when things like that occur? You actually believe that people will make that happen? ROFL! Glad I was not drinking something when I read what you wrote.
How many states have shuttered DMVs? How many states have shuttered DMVs in areas where there may be people who vote a certain way live there? Alabama did this and were sued into oblivion.
The perception that the voting system lacks integrity is a media blown up situation. And guess what, it rears its head EVERY single time a conservative loses. Notice that somehow, the 'democrats' were smart in 2020, but idiots in 2016 and 2024. HUH? That makes no @#$% sense.
There is a group of people, the same that majority believe in a sky daddy, will believe anything. They lack skepticism and the ability to think critically and will always buy into a conspiracy.
Now, let me get back to YOUR, "Just show the id." How do I do that with a mail in ballot? Now before you go off and state that there should not be mail in ballots, congrats, you are acting as a monarch, because each state gets to determine how the voting is done. CO has 100% mail in ballots. But hey, let's raise taxes to pay for all the machines and people to handle the elections. Oh wait, wut, you don't want taxes to go up, yet still want this to occur. Huh?
But you still have not shown how showing and ID stops fraud. HINT: You can get fraudulent IDs. So showing the ID changes NOTHING. It just creates an unnecessary burden on the voter. It acts as a form of suppression instead of inclusion.
And . . . seriously, stop with the business requirements and thinking they are the same as government requirements. Businesses have a lot of benefits that the government does not. Businesses can reject people! They can cherry pick who they want to work with. The government has to look at everyone.
Again, you hurt your argument by the partisanship. We have voter fraud. There is fraud in everything in life. Instead of solutions to reduce the fraud or make it more difficult to commit, you and others in the minority keep arguing that it's acceptable fraud. This is a majority voter issue to reduce fraud, and it's bipartisan. Here you go:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-election-160716779.html
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/02/07/bipartisan-support-for-early-in-person-voting-voter-id-election-day-national-holiday/
DB: Why are you so interested in leaky elections - both voting and election processing, David? Sorry, but zero tolerance for error is the only standard for a country 100% set up to be in the hands of legal voters and no one else.
Zero tolerance is a myth. NOTHING will ever be perfect. Your implication is the same as the other guy, fraud is changing the election. Even the most CONSERVATIVE group has stated that in 20 years they found 1500 instances and it did NOT impact the election at all.
Your goal is a fraud free election. Shouldn't the goal be an election that is accurate in showing who won or lost?
False claim David - merely accurate vote counting is but one part of any election; but never the only goal. Auditing the actual ballots is of co-equal value. You seem to have a clear investment in continued fraudulent election processes. We know there is a lot of public employee interest in maintaining this faulty status quo.
David, I assume you will not be interested in watching this short Victor Davis Hansen commentary, but others will appreciate the balance and questions Hanson brings to this topic.
VDH: What was the point of open borders and what has been and will be their impacts on our elections:
https://discern.tv/victor-davis-hanson-what-was-the-purpose-of-opening-our-southern-border/
NB: Hanson does not discuss the current known impact of population based "rotten boroughs" in California under the CVRA, but we all need to start talking about this too.
Seriously flawed argument that fraudulent voting “did not impact the election at all.” It’s almost as outrageous as ABC “Journalist” Martha Raddatz making the equally stupid argument “only a handful of apartments complexes were taken over by Venezuelan gangs.” What part of this do you not understand?
"2,000 mules" the movie.
Using fiction to depict reality is funny to me.
DB: A single fraudulent vote cancels another voter's precious vote. That is 100% unacceptable. You err claiming no fraud was ever uncovered and you failed to distinguish between voter fraud and election process fraud. You are not staying current on this topic. Why?
Start with zero tolerance for any error since that vote canceled by fraud may be my vote or your vote. Then carve our bullet proof exceptions. Voter ID is a no-brainer.
Are you capable of reading the linked article and then following the studies?
And, again, as friggin proof that conservatives failed math, Let me try this simply:
Two choices: Turd Sandwich and Giant Douche.
You voted for Turd Sandwich.
Now, I stole a ballot and voted.
If the person who was going to use it was going to vote for Giant Douche and I voted for Giant Douche, nothing changed.
If the person who was going to use it was going to vote for Giant Douche and I voted for Turd Sandwich, I moved the vote.
Now, there were 1mm voters. Turd Sandwich got 640k votes. Giant Douche got 360k votes.
Did I change the election by stealing the ballot and voting for Turd Sandwich?
Did I change the election by stealing the ballot and voting for Giant Douche?
What was the impact of my 'fraudulent' vote?
The answer to the last 3 questions is 'No/Nothing.'
If you want to talk election process fraud, lets do it. Show me the studies showing that there have been election process fraud that has changed the outcome.
Why do you think that Trump wants hand counted ballots?
Chill the name-calling and verbal bullying, David. Those tactics don't work here.
I didn't call anyone a name.
Again, I stand by the statment though, are you capable of reading the article with the linked studies? Your responses indicate that you are not even looking at the study done by the Heritage Foundation.
I have to say, I see a lot of name calling and verbal bullying on here towards users who make non-MAGA supporting comments. So to say it isn’t tolerated or that’s not a “tactic” used on this forum isn’t quite true.
And thank you David for your fact-based explanations. I haven’t had a chance to read all your linked articles, but will aspire to.
HaHaHaHA David! Studies conclude what researcher sets out to find. Let me introduce you to 100+ locals who are not citizens and vote! Ballots come in the mail with their name on it so of course, the ballot is cast. I went public at a Council meeting.
You find me the DEM politician who disagrees with: If a ballot is mailed to you, is it ok to vote it even if not a citizen? Of course it is!
CA never enforces federal US Constitution. We are a sanctuary state.
You come across as not knowing how the voting system works.
Are there ballots sent to people who are not US citizens? YES! But here is the hard part for you to do . . . continue reading past the headline. There are a very small handful of cities that allow non-citizens to vote. BUT here is the part that you are ignoring. They do not get a ballot with STATE OR FEDERAL elections on it. Their ballot ONLY allows them to vote in that city regarding that cities issues on the ballot.
https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States#Details_about_noncitizen_voting_in_local_elections
So while you may have a fantasy that noncitizens are voting for federal or state, that is not the reality.
Should be article!🌸
Wrote it before, Tiffany Henyard, Dalton Township. She appointed herself as top thug overseeing "Her" town where the police and ALL the tax dollars were for her taking. No longer back room deals. With the advent of Dopey Joe, our nation is a comedy of tears, fears, rapes, murders, fentanyl, bankrupt businesses, towering apartment multi-unit construction over crowding our peaceful streets, and well paid county officials. But alas, that's someone else's problem. I don't have time to worry about all that!
Such sad times in America.
The village idiots have taken over! It's time for the GOOD people of Santa Barbara to also protest this continuation of tyranny against citizens and wrongful allocation of OUR tax dollars. The nation voted these theives and ne're-do-well idiots out of DC. Now we must do the same in all of Santa Barbara County. Such a waste of time to cause honest, hard-working kind people into the streets to protest for our freedoms. What has happened to the human race?
Apropos of nothing, but seeing how these hallowed columns of the S.B. Current are oftentimes gushing in its praise of Mr. Musk, I figured y'all might be interested in some testimony that took place in the House of Representatives a few days ago; you know, just in case some of you are on the fence about the motivation behind his sudden interest in politics. Enjoy. https://youtu.be/g8f4UNLSwTo?si=ey5Y7EhxnCzVxM1K
Even more interesting RJ, is the sudden vilification of Musk by the local uber-libs who previously flaunted their Teslas and enjoyed their global internet connections via Vandenberg satellite launches. We live in interesting times.
Now make your best case why sustaining continued government waste, fraud, abuse and inefficiencies deserves "hallowed status".
"The Trump Tariff Tax is the largest peacetime tax hike in U.S. history," posted by none other than former V.P. Mike Pence. Mike Pence! I guess running from a mob of frothing-at-the-muzzle supporters trying to hang you is what it takes to finally see just what a fraudulent, abusive, grifter Trump is.
"Get your DJT Bibles, get your meme coins, get your golden sneakers, get yer made-in-Gina "Trump was right about everything" caps, while supplies last!"
Just take a calming breath and accept it: you've been duped.
RJ: The only con was demanding taxpayers fund four years of Biden open borders, which continues today. Revenue raising is not a con - when willing buyers meet willing sellers.
Bonnie, I don’t know where Joe Holland is but I can tell you where trump was a couple of days ago. He was at a golfing event to receive a golfing award for the championship he won, third year in a row, at his private golf course. Who do you think is gonna tell him he lost!
I don’t know how far back this tradition or duty goes back, but when military men or women die in the service of our country and their bodies are flown back to America, their flag draped caskets are met by the president and a small entourage to honor them. It’s rarely televised. When the four service men who have been lost in Lithuania were found, their bodies were flown back. Who was there to meet them? It sure wasn’t the President of the United States. The commander-in-chief. He was busy with more important matters like receiving his golfing award. His narcissistic, callous ways have not changed.